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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:51 PM
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2 words for anyone who believes the David Gregory /Scotty act
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 07:52 PM by burythehatchet
General Electric.

Gregory's role is pretty obvious to me - raise the temp early in the press conference so the rest of the room naturally feels like the "major issue" has been covered and when its their turn they really can't go after Scotty. (Except Helen, of course).

I don't believe that Gregory and Scotty's exchanges are honest.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:54 PM
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1. thank you for saying it. i've always seen gregory as a bush shill.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:55 PM
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4. especially after yesterday's "shouting match"
doesn't pass the sniff test.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:59 PM
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13. Oh really
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:54 PM
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2. I think they are. The rest of the room does not have to let the issue go,
but they do every time, because most are there collecting a pay check and not doing their jobs. I have to disagree with you on this.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:56 PM
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5. Hey, that's why we debate Sarge
:)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:57 PM
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7. i disagree with you. Seems sincere to me.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:01 PM
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15. I think someone is totally out of line here. and It ain't you.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:14 PM
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21. I don't think sharing my observation is being out of line
but that's also just my opinion
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:28 PM
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30. Well I agree with you here. You have every right to make us all think
We could easily be swayed by bull shit. None of us are immune from that, so while I personally disagree with your observation, make no mistake that you raise this point most certainly make me reflect on what I observed in the past on Gregory. So in that respect I don't think you were out of line. We have all (at least liberals) been so abused by the press I can completely understand why you are a skeptic, but I just personally think Gregory is the wrong one to find fault with when so many other in that room just don't follow through or deliberately through softballs and should be called out.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:17 PM
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23. There were more questions about DicK after David...
They did not "let it go"
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:55 PM
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3. so the humiliation with Bush and Chirac was an inside job? Er, why?
It strikes me as injured egos on both sides.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:58 PM
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8. I'm not familiar with that story
so I can't comment.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:56 PM
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6. Yes Indeedy!
Well said!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:58 PM
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9. I don't agree - Gregory usually gets going AFTER Scotty
ducks another reporter's question. Gregory is like the teacher telling the students, "for crying out loud, don't let it drop because he challenged you". Because most of the reporters just sigh and give up after the non-answers.

My .02
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:58 PM
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10. No way.
Yesterday they got into it outside of the briefing. It got pretty ugly. junior has tried to humiliate David on different occasions too. I don't think there's any love lost there.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:58 PM
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11. Wow. I hope I never get that cynical.
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 07:59 PM by Beaverhausen
Have you seen "Good Night, and Good Luck"?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:09 PM
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18. I have seen that great film. (Clooney is awesome)
and with regards to ANYTHING the bushies do, I believe cynicism is one of our most important tools.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:25 PM
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28. The Bushies yes, but David Gregory isn't one of them
Well, at least I don't think so.

I'd still like to believe that there are some journalists and editors who want to get at the truth and do stand up to their corporations.

It has been rare lately, but I think DG is the real deal.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:59 PM
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12. Nope! I don't buy that.
Gregory has been the rare tough questioner in the breifing room for quite a while.

I've also listened to him on other interviews. I think David is trying to be a real reporter, and going as far as his bosses are willing to let him go.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:02 PM
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16. I agree with you.
I don't understand why some folks think everything that looks even halfway good is just a big lie. Not trying to call anyone out or anything. That's just my opinion, and I respect that others' opinions are different than mine.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:59 PM
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14. Gregory always seems to let up
When he should go in for the kill. You may have a point there.
:shrug:
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:23 PM
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25. If he gets too offensive, the WH may shut him out. Then we have
no one except Helen.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:27 PM
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29. Yeah, I know
I just want to see scotty called on the carpet. Liar!
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:04 PM
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17. so if they don't ask questions they are shills
if they ask friendly questions they are shills.

And if they ask argumentative or probing questions they are shills?

What would count a non-shill? Really...I'm curious because I think we work ourselves into a corner fast when we reject EVERYONE's efforts.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:13 PM
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20. A non-shill is the great grand dame of the press room
and that's why sh rarely gets to ask a question. So why is Helen shut out?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:25 PM
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27. ah, the one who has commended David Gregory?
the one who sits next to Gregory and nods her head furiously whenever he asks a question?
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:30 PM
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32. I love Helen, and she's always nice about replying to emails
but unless there's something specific about David Gregory that shows him to be a plant or mole I'm afraid I see nothing except circular logic and assertions counter to what we do in fact see from him day in and day out.

In the absense of something personal about him that you know that we don't...I've got to go with what I actually see him do...and that is (and a rarity it is) the job of a reporter.

Helen made the mistake of saying Bush was the worst president ever. I lover he for it. But I think that and her nailing the Iraqi war to Ari's forehead was why they were able to do that to her. And even then they stopped short of revoking her press pass.

I suspect DG is on the edge of getting the HT treatment. But until he makes a "personal" statement I'm guessing they dont' quite dare to nail him as well.

Marginalizing one elderly lady doesn't take guts. It takes contempt. DG has a slightly louder voice so pushing him to the back might create more of a fight than they are ready for in the press room.

That doesn't mean I "know some truth" about DG. But the "GE" owns them all logic doesn't prove much to me either.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:11 PM
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19. I do believe they are honest
Scotty is playing him for a fool and he doesn't want to play anymore. Every interview I have ever seen where Gregory is the guest, he is non-confrontational and quite a likable guy, but he does show his disgust for this administration.

Gregory knows he is loosing his cool and he wishes that he wasn't. But, it is what it is and he is frustrated beyond civility anymore.

He's not Les for goodness sake.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:15 PM
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22. The only guy I dislike more than Les
is the Indian guy who loves to make speeches.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:19 PM
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24. Davids frustration seems fairly palpable...he's got me fooled...(nt)
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:29 PM
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31. He's got Free Republic postes fooled too. They are calling him all sorts
of crap.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:23 PM
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26. I've never thought about that
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:20 PM
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33. I believe they're dead-on true. The frustration of the
press corps for this administration is long-standing and miles deep.

Gregory's a good egg. He thinks McClellan is lying like a little puke and Gregory is exactly right.
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