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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:23 PM
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How many hunters are going to buy that he had ONE beer at lunch?
I know I don't expect it to pass the smell test in my part of the US. I can't imagine the rest of the southern hunters being all that much different than the ones I know. Either they don't drink alcohol period when they're hunting or they drink to excess while they're hunting.

This could get very interesting before it's over. :popcorn:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:25 PM
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1. Do you know whether or not Cheney volunteered this info?
Or did Hume ask him?

Does anybody know?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:28 PM
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6. I don't know
A customer just came in that had (I guess) seen it and told me that he was drinking and I logged on to see if they were right. The person who told me is a republican and they didn't mention that it was one beer, they just said that he admitted he was drinking that day.

If this is what more people end up taking away from the interview, they are in big trouble.
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:29 PM
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7. did Hume put Cheney under oath? ;)
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:25 PM
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2. I absolutely believe that he had ONE beer at lunch

... and then another ...
... and another ...
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:26 PM
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3. One beer for a heart patient...
on medication could be bad!


I never drank before a hunt. I did, however, drink to excess after all the guns were put away.

;)


:toast:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:29 PM
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8. That's what I get from most of the people I've spoken to
The fact that he drank anything at all before hunting looks bad.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:39 PM
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13. Even in my most, ahem, experiment phase of my youth
The gun safety rules were hammered into my psyche... there's just no way a responsible person would do that. I learned to shoot starting when I was seven... I was made to break down and clean the guns I used (with help at that age, naturally) and I had to verbally report to my father and my grandfather the position my barrel was pointing, the positions of every person in our hunting party, name the object I was shooting at, advise them of the change in my barrel position and yell "fire" just before I shot. When shooting clay pigeons, this was punctuated with "pull". I passed the hunter safety classes with flying colors after all that.

Responsible hunters/shooters = safety first!!
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:27 PM
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5. How many drinkers are going to buy it?
Seriously? If someone is into drinking enough to get 2 DUIs they will not stop at one beer. Why stop at one when it's a party right? It's not like they were really hunting because the birds were just trapped and slow so they wouldn't need their wits about them.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:30 PM
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9. You just don't drink and go shoot guns.
even one beer. When you do, you run out of hunting partners real fast. I had an uncle Don that liked his liquor too much. He would come out to the hunting camp but we never let him have guns. He would cook while we we hunted and had plenty of fun drinking around camp, but never ever was he allowed to touch a gun.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:31 PM
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10. Think of all the medication Deadheart Dick is taking
How likely is it that he's even supposed to be having one beer?
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:46 PM
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17. I've been wondering about that too...
A lot of medications can amplify the effects of alcohol. One beer for a sixty-something, severely-diseased cardiac patient might not be the same as for other people...


:think:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:48 PM
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18. Somewhere I saw somebody quoting the NRA
warning folks not to go shooting if they were taking prescription medicines or had been drinknig.

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:32 PM
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11. I don't know about all imbibing hunters drinking to excess,
In other words, they aren't passing out or falling out of their deer stands. But I know plenty of hunters who will put a good buzz on. Enough to impair reflexes and judgement.

And I have known a few who have drunk to the point of passing out, and/or falling out of their deerstand.

Yeah, it's generally not just a one beer type of thing. And this isn't a southern thing either. I live in the Midwest, and this is SOP.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:37 PM
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12. Right
A buzz on when drinking is considered by a responsible hunter as excessive drinking. I'm going by what information I've gathered locally in the past few days.

Most people don't drink prior to hunting, or so they've been telling me. As one person told me it's the same as drinking and driving, you just don't do it if you're responsible.


Fell out of their deerstand? OK, that's way more excess than I was implying. Wow!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:46 PM
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16. Now you understand why I stay out of the woods during deer season
Sure, most hunters are responsible and won't drink prior to hunting, but there are lots and lots of irresponsible ones. Take along some Irish coffee to both wake up and warm up, a flask to keep warm and elliviate the boredom, etc. etc. etc. And yes, before you know it, they've fallen out of their deer stand, and are passed out on the forest floor, with the deer stepping over them.

I used to live in a part of SW Missouri that attracted hunters down from St. Louis and KC every fall. It was scary to see these folks' cars. Back seat loaded with enough guns and ammo to put the Pentagon to shame, trunk weighed down with enough liquor to stock a street of bars. I had to drive along some real backwoods roads to go home, and driving a white Opel flashing through the underbrush I was quite nervous.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:39 PM
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14. Amen to that.
It was wickedly cold here that Saturday, too, so I don't doubt for a moment they were keeping warm in some way. Either before the hunt, during it, or both.

We might need to stockpile some supplies here.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:42 PM
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15. If you have to tell someone that you had one beer....................
You had more than 1 beer.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:59 PM
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22. That's right, it was freezing all the way down into south Texas
I'd forgotten about that fact. Thanks for the reminder. :)

People do tend to take a little nip to ward off the chill when it's that cold out.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:12 PM
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24. I was out with my kids at their games. We were miserably cold.
I thought my fingers and toes would snap off! It wasn't the temp., it was that wind. People were looking for anything to keep warm outside. They were all bundled up in heavy/thick coats that day, guaranteed, esp. an elderly man like Whittington. Which makes me wonder how close he must've been for those pellets to have penetrated his shoulder and chest.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:22 PM
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26. You raise an excellent point!
They had a segment on the news where they were trying to simulate the shooting. At the distance they alleged it was hardly penetrating a piece of cardboard.

When you add into the equation the fact that Mr. Whittington must have been bundled up against the cold it seems to prove that he must have been much closer then we were led to believe!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:35 PM
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28. And unfortunately for Harry W., it implies something else, too.
If those pellets did, indeed, penetrate his chest and shoulder through all of that clothing, they took a lot of material and debris in with them. Reports range from 5-200 pellets still being in his body. A lot of those have the potential for major infections from the foreign matter. Those high winds blew dirt/pollen/etc. all over that coat and then the pellets drove all of that into him, along with bits of fabric.

I feel very bad for Harry. I really do.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:42 PM
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29. Oh, dear
I didn't think of the increased risk of infection due to the added foreign material. Without any sarcasm I will say, I'm glad he's getting the very best of medical care. At 78 a persons immune system isn't what it was when they were younger. It's good that they're keeping such a close eye on him. Hopefully he'll heal and be back to 100% soon.

I've yet to run into one person that doesn't feel very bad for Mr. Whittington. Political affiliation aside, concern for his health is the one thing we all have had in common.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:54 PM
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19. Hubby used to duck hunt in TX
with buddies in December. It was non-stop drinking, poker, women (for some of the guys--so he says).

These same buddies came to MO one year (as our guests) and when they were in the blind one a.m. one of the guns went off and the shot ricocheted off the sides of the blind and ended up in one guy's butt! It was NOT fun for this guy who they took to the ER to get the buckshot picked out of his butt!

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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:57 PM
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21. I shouldn't have, but I laughed at that
At least it wasn't serious wound, well, except to his pride. :D
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:56 PM
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20. If a cop pulls you over & your totally shit-faced, what does everyone say
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 04:58 PM by Zinfandel
...when the cop asks, "have you been drinking?"...

..."No, I just had a beer or two".
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:02 PM
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23. Self delete
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 05:03 PM by mnhtnbb
duplicate from above
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:18 PM
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25. Nobody asked about "JD," "Jim Beam" or "Wild Turkey." I can't believe
that Cheney* would be a beer drinker. I see him as a bourbon guy myself.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:24 PM
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27. Expensive scotch
I enjoy bourbon, don't sully that for me. :(
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:43 PM
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30. No one can convince me he was NOT drinking... more than just a beer
:)



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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:49 PM
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32. Excellent art for the occasion, Swamp Rat!
I hope all is going well for you. :hug: :hi:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:56 PM
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33. So-so
Life is hard here. By the time I get heat and hot water, the weather will be warm. :eyes:

Thanks for asking. :hug:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:59 PM
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35. That's the governments idea if solar heating
They're just trying to be eco-minded. :eyes:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:43 PM
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31. How many wives will choose to buy the explanation that lipstick on the
husband's collar was due to some freak accident at the department store makeup department?

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."
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Buck Rabbit Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:59 PM
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34. One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer .... Lonesome Dick Cheney
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