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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:56 PM
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The fact that Cheney fixed himself a drink AFTER the shooting is

CYA in itself. If law enforcement had gotten to him & questioned him shortly after the shooting, he would have had an excuse to be intoxicated. Oldest ruse in the alcoholic book. Consider: A person is drunk & rams into someone then flees the scene. Goes home all shook up & starts downing shots in front of witnesses-- the cops come to question & it can't be proven he was drunk at the time...
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:57 PM
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1. Good point
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:58 PM
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2. firedoglake
came to the exact, same conclusion....
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:59 PM
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3. firedoglake mentions this:
"Ole 60 Grit O'Beirne was on Hardball getting chewed up over her ludicrous defense of Dick and how he didn't contact the press until the next morning because he was caring for the old man. Dick wasn't at the hospital, he was back at the house fixing himself a highball IN FRONT OF EVERYONE so that if and when word got out and the police grew uncooperative, he'd have adequate reason for the alcohol in his bloodstream.

That's another alcoholic's trick. "

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2006_02_12_firedoglake_archive.html#114014413952494167
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 05:23 AM
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20. I think he may have been drinking DURING the shooting
Occcam's razor. Why stop just to shoot caged quail?

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:01 PM
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4. It also shows a flaw in his character.
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 11:02 PM by Straight Shooter
He medicates himself with alcohol because he cannot handle the stress of a crisis. And this is the guy who is one heartbeat (a fibrillating heartbeat) away from the presidency? Heaven help us. We have the most useless "leaders" that fate could ever have dumped upon us.

ETA: Fine for the average person to use a drink to calm their nerves. But this guy's job requires him to be in control at all times. He failed the test.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:01 PM
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5. I think widdington's condition was a helluva lot more uncertain at
that point. What if he kicked at the hospital? Law enforcement would have no choice but to get a breathalyzer done on Cheney. Drinking at that point was a way to cover his BAC at the time of the accident.

Why didn't he go to the hospital with his friend (now acquiatence)....because people would see he was snookered.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:06 PM
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7. If there was a press contingent with them
they would have probably been able to get video of the flask in his field jacket. You know, take a nip between shots.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:13 PM
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10. Yeah, the cold-hearted bastard needed an occaisional nip
to stay warm. He was toast by 5:30. When I hunted 30 years ago, I used to see this kind in camp all the time. I'd usually stay at camp in the afternoon.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:02 PM
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6. I understand the desire to drink after shooting someone, but know better
It all makes him look really bad. People are angry about all this, conservative people I mean, as well as all of us.
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:07 PM
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8. I'm not surprised that others have speculated on this, anyone who knows
about DUI laws has heard of the person who got stopped by the cops and proceeds to guzzle whiskey in front of the cop & gets off on that technicality. Not a recommended action, just that a glitch in procedure is all it takes.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:09 PM
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9. I can't believe I am the 1st to nominate this - good find!!! n/t
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:28 PM
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11. It's also another self-centered, woe is me thing to do
just like not going to the hospital...and sitting down to dinner...


Me, I would have been at the hospital, even if it were a stranger, and I couldn't eat
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:25 AM
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19. I do not know what I would do
Once dad hit a dog with his car. It was on an interstate and just froze. He hit the brakes but still hit it at 35 MPH. I could feel it hit the back seat where I sat. It was still alive and they drove it to the vet. They waved and yelled that we should come along too, but dad kept driving. Seriously, what are we gonna do at the vet's? We are not doctors, and the dog will get no comfort from our presence since we are strangers.

The part that I find ironic is that commentators say "it is obvious that he feels terrible about this" and I have to think:
Accidentally wounds a hunting partner - Cheney feels bad
Deliberately starts a war to profit Haliburton - Cheney is not bothered.
Deliberately allows torture - Cheney is not bothered.
Deliberately cuts taxes for the rich, creating tons of red ink and necessitating budget cuts to programs for the needy and perhaps funding on flood control for NOLA - Cheney is not bothered.
Deliberately pollutes the environment for corporate profit - Cheney is not bothered.

So what is the difference here, that he hurt someone who is not a member of the working class, or that he actually got his hands dirty instead of just enabling corporate lackeys to hurt other people?
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:17 AM
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12. One good CYA kickaroonie
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threadkillaz Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:19 AM
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13. It says it all.
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 12:20 AM by threadkillaz
WHY WOULD HE PUT HIMSELF IN RISK OF BEING TESTED POSITIVE FOR ALCOHOL AFTER A SHOOTING IF HE HADN'T DRUNK SINCE LUNCH???????


huh huh huh,
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:24 AM
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14. Maybe he was drinking "shooters"
That's about how much he cared.
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:39 AM
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15. Were they raising glasses and toasting Dick's marksmanship?
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:06 AM
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16. That's what a lawyer will tell you to do if you did something drunk.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:16 AM
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17. He knew people would be watching him, so, as vice president,
there's no way in hell he would have started drinking afterwards unless it was some kind of act of desperation.

I mean, this guy has always hid his drinking, so why the hell would he start drinking as soon as all eyes were on him?

The only answer is that he had to provide cover for his drunken shooting spree.

Case closed.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:02 AM
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18. Drunken
bastard! :mad:
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 05:28 AM
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21. Remember the episode of "The Practice" where the drunk driver...
...was advised to drink -- after the accident?

Good catch.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 05:32 AM
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22. I knew a guy who flew the scene, drove home and hid. Next day
he turned himself in and was charged for fleeing the scene of an accident. No DUI!

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 07:27 AM
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23. That's what I was thinking too. It was very gratuitous for him to
include that part.
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