Bush's coziness w/ Saudis and selling of ports to the UAE company...

How can this not be a political liability? If Dems want to beat Republicans on security... why is this not hammered to death?

Hello, is anyone watching the news?

But by all means, hammer away if you like...

would be made of this.

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Position: Hay-maker.

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on Lou Dobbs yesterday. Then to hear today that the senate isn't going to look into the domestic spying.

How in the world can any sane person agree to this? Corp media is too busy with the cheney shooting...someone better pay attention!

Obviously they think they are invulnerable by now.

Gore and Clinton.

The Saudi Arabia seminar that was addressed by former Vice President Al Gore over the weekend in a speech that criticized the U.S. for being too tough on Arabs was sponsored, in part, by Osama bin Laden's family.

On Saturday, the state-run Saudi news outlet Arab News reported that the Jeddah Economic Forum, where Gore spoke, was funded by "Saudi Arabian Airlines, the Saudi Binladin Group, Gulf One Investment Bank, Saudi Basic Industries Corp." and an array of other big companies with ties to the Middle East.



A speech in which former Vice President Al Gore told a mostly Saudi audience that the U.S. had committed "terrible abuses" against Arabs after 9/11 continues to make waves, with critics calling the remarks disloyal and "inappropriate during a time of war."

Some also challenged Gore's reported assertion that "thoughtless" U.S. visa policies towards Arabs were playing into al Qaeda's hands. The most serious questions, however, involved Gore's decision to criticize his country's policies while abroad -- at a time when Muslim feelings against the West are running high.

Addressing the Jeddah Economic Forum, Gore said Sunday that after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, Arabs in America had been "indiscriminately rounded up, often on minor charges of overstaying a visa or not having a green card in proper order, and held in conditions that were just unforgivable."

Gore told his audience, "I do want you to know that it does not represent the desires or wishes or feelings of the majority of the citizens of my country."



Al Gore, the Vice President under President Bill Clinton and the losing 2000 Democratic Party presidential candidate, last Sunday was in Saudi Arabia, bad-mouthing the United States. Was Gore’s motive money and political ambition?

America’s government committed “terrible abuses” against Arabs following the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, Gore told a Saudi audience at the Jiddah Economic Forum. Arabs had been “indiscriminately rounded up,” said Gore, and held in “unforgivable” conditions.



Gore did not mention that 15 of the 19 terrorists who carried out mass murder on September 11 in the United States were Saudis.



Nor did Gore mention that his fellow leftists such as filmmaker Michael Moore had, until their claim was discredited, accused President George W. Bush of being too kind towards Saudi Arabs. President Bush, they falsely claimed, had allowed members of the large bin Laden family (from which al-Qaeda terrorist leader Osama is an estranged black sheep) to leave the United States without being questioned by authorities.

“The worst thing we can possibly do,” Gore told the Arab audience, “is to cut off the channels of friendship and mutual understanding between Saudi Arabia and the United States.”

“Gore refused to be drawn into questions about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict,” wrote Associated Press reporter Jim Krane. “We can’t solve that long conflict in exchanges here,” Gore told his Saudi audience, thereby refusing to say any word in support of Israel.




There's more but you get the drift. The left and right voters live in two different realities. On the left it didn't make a big stir when Al spoke here to this particular audience...just as on the right there are few prisoner photos or news of the UN asking the US to close Gitmo...


The truth's out there but it may a couple decades before we know what it is and we may not like it all.

but I consider Newsmax and Gopusa articles to be little more than gossip.

that we dismiss stories that don't fit our picture of events. They're all partisan publications but this story of Al Gore saying in Saudi Arabia that the US mistreated Saudis following 9/11 made the AP wire as you can see from the clips these sites chose. The original post thought the port sale should be enough proof that this administration is too cozy with the Saudis but the republicans will think the left - in the person of Gore - is too Saudi friendly. Both sides think its awful instead of it being common ground but both automatically blame the other side based on the sources they consider reliable. We should all be reading and questioning everything.

Imo, our nation is responsible for a lapse in judgement and it is quite possibly the result of a long standing United States stance regarding Saudi Arabia.

I am talking about the President, who acts in an official capacity and represents us. How did Al Gore get brought up? Who's next, Muhammed Ali?

to bring down the administration and, as you can see from the rightwing press, they don't see it as merely a president's decision. Instead they're focusing on Gore's apology for Saudi treatment and that'll be enough for people with a right lean to blame something they don't like on the left. It's all in the perspective.