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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:42 PM
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There's something wrong with the Whittington police report.
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 06:43 PM by Bleachers7
Compare the police report to the pictures of Harry. The police report shows the injury on his left side. The pictures show the injury on his right side.



The police report appears to show the injury on the left side on all of the figures. There are 4 figures shown. They are front, back, and each side. The sides are barely visible, but it appears the wound is on the left side in this veiw as well. So the question is? Why is the police report incorrect?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney1.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=455444&mesg_id=455444
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:44 PM
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1. The thought just ocurred to me that it must have been an
absolute bitch for this guy to shave this morning.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:48 PM
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8. used a cream, prolly.
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Brain In Vat Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:23 AM
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30. Still
That doesn't help all that much when you have been shot in the face.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:44 PM
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2. Not unusual. I was in a car accident several years ago, I was driving..
but the cop listed my passenger as the driver. The drawing showing the damage to the car was also wrong.

They're human and make mistakes just like the rest of us.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:45 PM
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The report was probably dictated to them.
n/t
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:50 PM
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12. Exactly. They tell the cop "he was shot on the right side" and the
cop simply looks at the form and shades the area on the right side of the drawing without even thinking about it. Because if that cop didn't even come out to the ranch until the next day, does that mean that he flew to Corpus Christi to view and interview Harry?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:45 PM
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It must have been that extremely thorough investigation they did.
We know they got everything just right, huh?
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:45 PM
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3. Well did the police ever actually get to see him??? n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:46 PM
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5. That's what I was wondering.
It appears to be wrong on both images. Why is that?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:45 PM
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4. Description says right side, but
The drawing is wrong...shows left side. The officer must have made a mistake.
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GreenPoet64 Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:47 PM
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6. So many "mistakes" in this matter that it smells. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:49 PM
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9. You're right about that.
I remembered the image only. Thanks
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:49 PM
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11. Yep - that's true. The right hand doesn't know
what the left hand is doing.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:28 PM
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22. The heart is on the left side.
How'd that happen?
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:47 PM
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7. Wow - I just showed this picture to my husband
who is an AVID hunter and his reaction was "Woe - that's close range" (he's not much of a talker). So, I said it wasn't from as far away as the liars say it was and he said "No, Oh No".
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:49 PM
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10. The police NEVER saw him....
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 06:51 PM by C_U_L8R
they took dictation over the phone... from one of Cheney's henchpeople..
who said... Whittington was shot on the right side.. which is true ...HIS right side.
The police then promptly marked down the RIGHT side of the picture.

It's simple confusion - like "stage right" vs "house right"...
but it's a confusion of semantics and words. A confusion
that occured in a phone call... not in person.

If the police had actually seen the wounded man...
there would be NO mistake in the diagram.

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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:52 PM
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13. Agreed.
And as I pointed out upthread, wouldn't they have had to flown to Corpus Christi to see and interview Harry? He was driven to a rural hospital, then life flighted to Corpus Christi. If the cop didn't even make it out to interview the shooter until the next day, what are the odds he flew to Corpus Christi to view and interview Harry?
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greenleaf Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 08:35 PM
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21. Good analysis
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 10:11 PM
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26. Your last statement is absolutely correct.
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 10:12 PM by catzies
"If the police had actually seen the wounded man...
there would be NO mistake in the diagram."

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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:53 PM
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14. I keep thinking "I'll bet he really was
laughing and joking around". Not a serious injury at all. Just like they said "only peppered".:sarcasm:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 07:23 PM
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18. They said he was flirting with the nurses too
As if.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 07:40 PM
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20. Yep - Guess he laughed a little to loud, moved a little to fast,
and flirted with one too many nurses. That's why the pellet moved into the muscle of his heart and caused a heart attack. That was all Whittington's fault. The shooting, the heart attack - all of it. And Poor Poor Uncle Dickie - he feels sooooo baaaaad.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 07:01 PM
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15. I can see about 20 pellets.
Guess they don't hurt.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 07:15 PM
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16. the TEXT says right side of face. look at the drawing closely
there's not much in the fact at all. mostly it's the left shoulder and left upper torso. the face marks are limited to the neck and chin area, that i can make out on the drawing.

one possibility is that everything is correct and whittington was walking toward cheney but looking over his left shoulder at the time, exposing the right side of his face to the shot.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 07:20 PM
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17. He'd have to be an owl or something
to turn his head that far. Try it.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 07:25 PM
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19. nonsense. i've had a neck injury and still have a 180 degree range.
besides, he might not have been walking directly toward cheney, his body might also have been at an angle, reducing the need for his head to be quite that turned.

if he SAW cheney aiming the shotgun at him, he might have flinched or tried to duck, and then just about anything could have happened.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:55 PM
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24. Oh, I spose you're right.
But I was having a lot of fun in my mind with variations on that famous Exorcist scene...
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 10:32 PM
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28. All That Explanation aside
Try standing with your left side facing west, and then turn your head to the left so the right side of your face and full neck are facing west as well.

You are now looking over your shoulder behind you.

So perhaps he ducked or flinched, or perhaps he heard Cheney yelling "get the fuck out of the way" but it was too late, as Cheney wanted that damned bird.

Brit Hume: "Did you get the bird?" Cheney: "I have no idea" (Damned guy got in the way is what he was thinking)
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:28 AM
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29. I thought Cheney said he was facing South, swung right to the West, the
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 12:33 AM by Pachamama
Sun was in his eyes (plus he's a right handed shooter) and he swung to the right hitting Whittington...

So, here's my question....why then do the injuries appear on Whittington's right side? Shouldn't they be on his left side if he was to the right of Cheney? :shrug:

And why doesn't the report match? I noticed the repoet says the injury was to his right side, but the image is illustrated incorrectly on the left side...still...it doesn't jive w/ Cheneys story to Brit Hume unless Whittington was facing the opposite direction....
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:05 PM
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32. It's All A Lie
It's been swept under the rug.

The law enforcement was bought off.

Access to Whittington is over.

Cheney isn't going to answer questions.

Congress critters aren't going to push this.

The media is an accomplice.

Only the people can ask the questions, but who will answer them but ourselves?
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:45 PM
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23. He's damn lucky his face was turned
but no way is that damage 90 ft, I'd say 30ft
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 10:01 PM
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25. Cheney also said it was the right side, didn't he?
People noted it at the time and wondered...
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Bluesplayer Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 10:25 PM
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27. hit with ~100 out of more than 300 pellets
At least that's what I heard. If he had caught the full 300 pellets, I don't think he would have survived it. Very lucky guy, especially for having been just shot in the face.
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Brain In Vat Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 01:26 AM
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31. Just a mistake
Probably just a careless error.
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