DLC- Don't nominate John Kerry

So you still think the DLC loves John Kerry? LOL!!!

Link: http://washingtontimes.com/national/20060219-105049-6385r.htm

Snip: < Some DLC members are uncomfortable with the message that this is sending to an electorate that still does not trust the Democrats to defend the country from the terrorist threat, according to the centrist organization's own polls.
A DLC survey conducted by Democratic pollster Mark Penn found that voters -- by a 48 percent to 38 percent margin -- trusted Republicans more than Democrats to fight terrorism, and trusted Republicans by a 45 percent to 40 percent margin to defend America's national security.
Mr. From said the 2004 election turned on several questions in the minds of the voters, one of which was, did Democratic presidential nominee "John Kerry understand that America has enemies in the world who are out to kill us?" Enough voters didn't think so, and they gave President Bush the margin he needed to win re-election, he said.
Mr. From, the architect of the centrist-leaning agenda, which led to Bill Clinton's election in 1992 and re-election in 1996, fears that what happened last year could happen again if the party nominates another liberal like Mr. Kerry.
"A quarter-century ago, Democrats were in the political wilderness, largely because their liberal leadership worried more about American power than America's enemies in the world. To listen to the congressional and party leaders today, it's evident they haven't learned a thing," he said.
"t would be tragic if national security costs Democrats yet another national election. But it could," Mr. From said. >

More at the link....

that the DSCC recently did a poll on leaders in the democratic party but THEY ARE NOT RELEASING THEM. Gee, I wonder why.

I knew it was one of them. :crazy:

Neither was Edwards.

So when you knock the DLC you are Republican, is that right?

Just like when you stand up against a president that breaks the law you are weak on Terror®

The DLC is bad for our party.

I wonder who goes cesspool-diving through the Washington Times for anti-Democrat crap AND BELIEVES IT.

Because they get a friendly audience. Birds of feather flock together.

DLC does not equal Democrat

DLC = Republican Interlopers

the sort of person combing through Sun Myung Moon's rag looking for tidbits to slam Democrats with.

They did it because the right-wing loves the fact that Corporate raiders are taking over the Democratic Party.

already ran with Kerry and they aren't going to take another chance with him.

Read the article here on DU today about how Kerry/Gephardt and the Dem Big Donors along with some Repug Money brought down Howard Dean.

DLC is just looking to bring the Clinton's back so the "status quo" will be maintained.

"how Kerry/Gephardt and the Dem Big Donors along with some Repug Money brought down Howard Dean."
And the dog ate Paul Hackett's homework.

for free (so to speak)
for their corporate ownership
for BushCo

Give me a fucking break...

Dean was an obscure governor whom Business Week described as a Rockefeller Republican. He finished no better than third in every major primary, and his acolytes want to blame everyone else for their Golden Boy's failures

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WHy some corporate group is bossing around our party is beyond me. We need to get back to being the party of the people.

DLC: Shouldn't your democrat be owned by the Fortune 500?

to elect a Democratic President and we should all just shut up and listen to them. Why, because they got lucky with Clinton?

And because corporate America gives them 50 million a year or so to sell thier poison to the Democratic Party.

The DLC was along for the ride. It's been nothing but loser city since then.

And a bad economy and and out of touch incumbent.

The DLC should get zero credit for Clinton's campaign.

They created the DLC for center and moderate democrats to ride off of Clinton's success. I really wish Kerry would tell them to stop putting his name on their site. He hasn't been affiliated with them since 2003 and isn't invited to anything. See, they're trying to use him and than turn around and bash him. They can't have it both ways. I'm glad Dean, Gore and Edwards are no longer affiliated with them too. I wish some others would leave like Kurita and Warner.

Heh. Please. All the more reason to go with John Kerry. Piss them off.

a perfect straussian storm if there ever was one.

Neutralize the competition.

And to the extent that they divide us it's by moving the party so far to the right that the rank and file just think that the party is worthless and they go flirt with the Greens or just stay home.

I'm going to post it in it's own thread when i fix some of the issues.

I have a question or two.

I'm tired of American Royal Families (2 families running America for 20 years???).

Kerry had his chance, and his inability to address the swiftboat liars gives me serious doubts that he would make a good president.

If the Democratic party runs either one of those two, I will simply not vote.

Give me a real choice!

It's SOOOO important to get the right Democrat nominated.

Kerry is still very popular within the democratic party. He is the most searched canidate and early last year his raiting was 80% with democrats and that is the highest approval raiting of a former presidential nominee within his party. He's still fighting and a leader in the Senate.

There will be different candidates that may siphon away his support.

Support the candidate that you think is the best for the party and the country.

I'm talking up Feingold to all my friends right now to raise his name ID.

You can do the same for your candidate.

But my god....Would you actually let George Allen or Newt Gingrich become President because Kerry "had his chance?"

I guess Al Gore had his too?

If there is a candidate you like then work for them and try to get them nominated, but the end game is we have to stop these quasi-fascists from taking over the entire planet. Unpalatable as he may be, Kerry is like fooking Ghandi compared to these people.

I love the hypocriacy. Oh let's run Gore again! But when it's Kerry: oh he had his chance! Loser! Give me a break. :eyes:

I want a NEW CHOICE.

neither Dem or Repugs.

but not Kerry? :eyes:

Gore is at least out of the system right now and since the M$M is still trashing him at every opportunity ....I can figure that not only does the DLC not want him to run but the Repugs are scared to death of him running.

Since I'm a Left Progressive...I want someone outside the "machine" next time.

On the note I do like Gore but I highly doubt he will run again. He wouldn't be protesting so much when people ask him about it. It would be cool if he changed his mind but I'm not going to hold my breath. And what do you think Kerry is? He's way more liberal than Gore. Gore is a progressive but I don't think he's a liberal. And in case you forgot Gore was a co-founder of the DLC.

not "establishment." See how wealthy insider Dem Money Bags (with Repug help) teamed with Kerry/Gephardt to bring down Howard Dean, because Kerry wouldn't interrupt the "status quo." And, how we on the "angry left" were so easily co-opted into the ABB Meme.

I worked for John Kerry...I pushed here in my state to try to get recounts because I didn't believe that Kerry/Edwards lost in NC...so I did my best to get him elected. But....read what they did to Dean for background, because I won't be pushed into another ABB Scenario for Hillary or Kerry or any other one the DLC wants to push on me in '08. I've had enough of the "establishment" Dems and their Machine who pushes Conyers, McKinny and the whole Progressive Caucus to the FRINGE of our own party. And, I'm not alone in feeling that way.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2470853

Or do you just "forget" about that? :eyes: So why did the very very progressive Kuicinch tell his supporters to support Kerry? I guess he's apart of the plan too huh?

We all supported it.

I hope you will read the Josua Frank article when you have time, though. Because it's hard to discuss with you when you haven't read it...

on the campaign trail.

See how ill informed you are about your OWN PARTY'S CANDIDATE when you let the corporate media do your thinking for you?

:eyes:

Are the DLCers on the republican payroll, or do they just hate the majority of Americans?

like how far right they are. The guy has slavishly parroted every part of Bush's approach to Iraq and "national security", only saying he would do it better.

He even made his own bill for getting out of Iraq WAY WAY before John Murtha did. Of course nobody paid attention. Dean did try to talk about Kerry's plan on Matthews' show once but Matthews cut him off.

What part of "do no rush to war" did you miss back in 2003? Or let the inspections continue. What part of his criticism of Tora Bora in 2002 did you miss? Or a new page at the UN. Or Iraq reconstruction being done by the Iraqi's. He hasn't parroted Bush's approach from day one.

Does Feingold supporting most of the Patriot Act mean he's parroted Bush's approach too?

Threads like this are useful, because they show who is willing to lie and distort reality in order to maintain their irrational hatred for John Kerry. It's pretty decent trollbait, I must say.

That's the main story I see with that poll result.

But he could.

for no reason. Go DLC! Rat worms are better than the GOP. Kerry is a good liberal, anti-war hero. I've never seen a worse campaign...