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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:46 PM
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Poll question: Al From and the DLC - a question about the philosophy.
As I see it, here is Al From's philosophy regarding elections:

The purpose of this memorandum is to begin to lay out what Democrats need to do to forge the kind of broad based center-left coalition of core and swing voters that we need to win in 2006 and 2008. The bottom line is this: because there are more self-identified conservatives than liberals in the electorate, if Republicans win all conservatives, Democrats need to win all of the self-identified liberals and more than seven of every 10 self-identified moderates just to break even. That is not an ideological statement, it's simple arithmetic. Simply put, Democrats cannot win unless they build a coalition of all liberals and most moderates.


from A Change to Rebuild Our Democratic Majority, If We Take It.
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=127&subid=173&contentid=253656

So From's message is that the Democratic party can't get "too" liberal, or they will not attract the 7 of 10 "moderates" required to actually elect someone. From evidently believes that our job is not to present a message people will move toward, but to present a message that lets them believe exactly as they do today. A comfortable message that simply tells them what they already believe to be true.

The problem as I see it, is that without a radical change in direction this country could go completely down the toilet. Read through Latest Breaking or GD and see the laundry list of issues that - even taken one at a time - could result in disaster. And there are HUNDREDS of issues the American government is on the wrong side of today.

So - in light of all this - here is my question: In the upcoming 2006 elections, should Democrats attempt to craft a comfortable message that somewhat appeals to liberals while telling the 7/10 moderates what they want to hear?

Or, should we craft a message that appeals to liberals and inspires moderates to move from their previously beliefs?

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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:48 PM
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1. Where's "Other?"
Maybe "It's all wrasslin'"
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:49 PM
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2. Let him run Hillary, we'll run Feingold as an indy...
and win.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:57 PM
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5. Feingold impresses me.
Voting against the Patriot Act was ballsy fer sure. And correct.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:50 PM
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3. I'm feeling pessimistic
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 10:50 PM by proud patriot
and thinking of polar bears :cry:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:53 PM
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4. Cheney will go a-bear huntin' and get one to stuff for the museum
so our kids can see what they looked like
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 11:09 PM
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6. lovely
:think:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:30 AM
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7. Just a kick to get some more replies. eom
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 08:56 AM
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8. Democrats can't win without moderates
and many Democrats are moderate to start with. Trying to be the party of the far left is electoral suicide.

There's already a party of the far left, the Green Party, and they're as welcome to voters as an onion fart.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 09:20 AM
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9. From is just fortifying the already existant one party system.
The Democrats have become the (somewhat) moderate wing of the Capitalist/Nationalist Party. But, it's a pleasant notion to believe that we live in a democracy rather than the oligarchy that it is.
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