Listen Up: The Port Deal WILL GO THROUGH, The Repubs WILL FOLD

They will delay the decision and hope to accomplish it more quietly. They will use the extra time to blackmail, threaten and bribe Repubs (and probably Lieberman) to get on board. They will succeed.

This is nothing less than a gift.

Now is the time for Dems to seize the Nat'l Security issue and clobber the Repubs over the head with it from now until forever. The Repubs will forever and always be the party that SOLD OUR PORTS TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER, A TERRORIST SUPPORTING COUNTRY. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT NAT'L SEC., THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT PROFIT. Learn it, love it, repeat it ad nauseum.

And I really don't care and don't want to get caught up in the bullshit about whether or not this really is a security threat, blah blah blah. It's irrelevant. This is a bed of the Repubs own making and own fearmongering and they deserve to reap the whirlwind for this. It's long past time we turned their own propoganda against them.

Pure gold. I only hope the Dems are wise enough to use it.

The scandal-catastrophe parade will continue.

This whole administration has been about looting the public and about turning over as much of the nation's wealth to a few corporations as possible. Period. That's all it is.

That is a question for many where I live, which is one of the reddest counties in the known universe.

Democracy Now chilled me to the bone this morning.

http://www.democracynow.org/

gonna wipe everthing off the slate and then lookout, the real looting will begin

Bushies are just to dam good at arm twisting. Probably been busy spying on there own so they can use the dirt to twist arms.

after hearing some key pundits speak as it were a done deal, only a matter of when, and perhaps some "tweaks" here and there.

An interesting theory I read on DU yesterday is that this is gonna get us a base in UAE from which to launch an attack against Iran. Makes sense to me, and explains why they seem so determined to do it. "One of our best allies".

with small children or farm animals...or taking bribes

*: "Go forth and do whatever you wish....I'll let you off the hook. Plus I've got dirt on your opponents."

http://www.total411.info/2005/02/jeff-gannon-johnny-gosch-hunter.html

just Google: boys town prostitution ring

this has been covered up since Bu$h SR was vice president and small children were found walking around the back hallways of the white house in their under wear during a party there

unfolds. It's probably out there.. just hasn't been made public yet. The public-at-large seems to respond to sex (or just nudity.. remember Janet Jackson's boob?) more strongly than to government crime and corruption.

Like they normally do? Will they basically send us their standing message that they are pathetic gutless wimps?

Watch for the repubs to call the dems racist, and unwilling to accept Arabs in general. That's their only tactic when cornered. Attack! Don't let them get away with it.

I think this is an issue that the GOP knows can hurt them in November and they will make Bush back down like they did with Harriett Maiers.

Everybody is watching Georgie now, not just us :tinfoilhat:

...to go after them not as evil sellouts (however much that may be true, its going to be harder for mainstream voters to accept) but as lazy and inattentive. That voters will accept, given the recent memories of Katrina, and it plays against Bush's fundamental campaign promise: that he'd be ever vigilant and keep us safe.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=500007&mesg_id=500007

CRAP. The delay tactic is only to calm everyone's nerves and to allot more time for arm twisting, blackmailing, and mind control.

But we'll be wise enough to drive those Dems from office.

I suspect upwards of 85% of Americans think the deal sucks and are very angry about foreigners owning our ports. The people will win on this. The deal will not go through.

:rofl: :rofl: Remember when Republicans were lining up to tell America how badly Clinton's first Budget would destroy America. They were in "lockstep" and voted against it to a man. It took Al Gore as VP to cast the tie breaking vote and America then went on to experience the greatest economic expansion in history. Never once were any of those words of wisdom by Republicans repeated during campaign tours. As soon as Bush* came to Power the Republicans said now we will show what we can do. We have all the Power and America went on to experience the greatest economic turn around in it's history. Not once has their words of economic genius been used. What makes you think things will change now?

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This is a dangerous road to go down. The democrats will be buying into the very argument that keeps them from power, namely "who's better on national security." One of the main problems is the security apparatus of the US is growing by leaps and bounds. It needs to be scaled back not increased. If they run on this kind of platform they are going to be boxing themselves into increasing spending on defense and homeland security. That's not to say the UAE port deal is a good idea but the argument should be that all port facilities should under the control of the government not just ones controlled by mid-east companies/countries. This is not the argument being made against the deal. The dems are also buying into the terrorist bogey-man stuff just like many people on this site who at other times decry that same kind of administration garbage.

Doing what I suggest is turning the argument around on the Repubs. The Dems ARE better on Nat'l Security and now have the very goods on the Repubs to show it, very clearly.

If the Repubs support this deal they deserve to get hammered w/ the "bogeyman" they created.

"One of the main problems is the security apparatus of the US is growing by leaps and bounds. It needs to be scaled back not increased."

Heh? WTF are you talking about? That's loopy. The security apparatus SHOULD be growing, we NEED to invest in security and do it wisely.

Do yourself a favor, stay out of politics, you've got everything ass backwards.

"The dems are also buying into the terrorist bogey-man stuff just like many people on this site who at other times decry that same kind of administration garbage."

Heh. Use their momentum against 'em. They created the arab/terrorist bogeyman and now they want everyone to just forget about it to let this port deal go through. It's idiotic to suggest that the Dems should ignore this opportunity to hammer them w/ their own bogeyman, which is admittedly VERY effective at manipulating people. People are freaked out over this port deal, the Dems can capitlize on it and the Repubs deserve every bit of grief they get if they support it.

"The security apparatus SHOULD be growing, we NEED to invest in security and do it wisely."

As money dwindles for health care, social security, environmental protection, public transit, education at least you'll have the police state to comfort you. If fear is the mantra than there will never be enough money for security. Someone can always say 'we'll protect you more, we'll spend more.' The key is to point out the phoniness of the fear in the first place. Yes the Republicans are reaping what they've sewn. The backlash comes whether the dems want it or not. They should be providing an alternative other than 'we won't let them ay-rabs run our ports!'

First the Dems need to get back some power before they do anything. If that means tarring the Repubs as weak on Nat'l Security then they need to do it. Period.

Security IS a real issue. To deny that is to live in a fantasy world. The Dems need to seize it and use it. If that means beating the Repubs at their own game, then they damn well better.

There is a time for demagoguery and a time for science. For the Dems this is a
time for vigorous, technical critique -- while the Repubs sink into the quagmire of
their own making.

For the Dems the time is right to kick the Repubs in the nuts and beat them w/ a tire iron.

Just 17% Favor Dubai Ports Deal

February 24, 2006--Just 17% of Americans believe Dubai Ports World should be allowed to purchase operating rights to several U.S. ports. A Rasmussen Reports survey found that 64% disagree and believe the sale should not be allowed (see crosstabs).

Just 39% of Americans know that the operating rights are currently owned by a foreign firm. Fifteen percent (15%) believe the operating rights are U.S. owned while 46% are not sure.

From a political perspective, President Bush's national security credentials have clearly been tarnished due to the outcry over this issue. For the first time ever, Americans have a slight preference for Democrats in Congress over the President on national security issues. Forty-three percent (43%) say they trust the Democrats more on this issue today while 41% prefer the President.

The preference for the opposition party is small, but the fact that Democrats are even competitive on the national security front is startling. In Election 2002, the President guided his party to regain control of the Senate based almost exclusively on the national security issue. On Election Day that year, just 23% rated the economy as good or excellent, but the President's Party still emerged victorious.

Should Dubai Ports World Be Allowed to Buy Port Operating Rights?

Yes 17%
No 64%
RasmussenReports.com

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

I am not a politician--but if I was, I would not even go to Congress, I would just focus on PR for the Dem party with the media.

The more the Dems are in the Congressional Hearings, about the Bush FISA and secret trading deals, etc., with the UAE/Bin Laden hearings -- the more the Repukes manipulate the Dems into being wimps.

The Dems have zero power in the Congress, so the Dems should just walk out in protest.

help of the democratic side. That is their only hope to win in November -- to
position as "Giant Killers" on the issue of homeland security. Bush's deal is a knife
at the throat of every Republican up for re-election.

And it's gold. Pure gold.

GOP working on solution to ports deal
Voluntary 45-day investigation would address security issue
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/25/port.security/index.html

Dem Party will whine a little, as usual. The Dem Pary is now a whipped dog that whimpers and whines but runs right up to the food bowl right afterward.

Since you can't very well say it yourself, I'll say it for you! Don't you wish you could take out a full-page ad in the NYT with just those four words; "I TOLD YOU SO!"

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The press will bury it.

It will be interesting to see if there are any rogue Repukes left standing. Frankly, I have little faith in the Dems to run with it. You would think that even so it would be the undoing of the Republicans in November. It's against the people's wishes. And never underestimate the power of months of propaganda. But the Dems are dumb because I guarantee you no Republican would ever give a crap about being called a racist. They all believe they aren't anyway and shocker-they actualy believe the right to be alive is a basic right that trumps what anybody thinks about them.