WILLIAM F. BUCKLEY - Admits Defeat in Iraq:"American Objective Has Failed"

William F. Buckley
February 24, 2006, 2:51 p.m.
It Didn’t Work


"I can tell you the main reason behind all our woes — it is America." The New York Times reporter is quoting the complaint of a clothing merchant in a Sunni stronghold in Iraq. "Everything that is going on between Sunni and Shiites, the troublemaker in the middle is America."


One can't doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed. The same edition of the paper quotes a fellow of the American Enterprise Institute. Mr. Reuel Marc Gerecht backed the American intervention. He now speaks of the bombing of the especially sacred Shiite mosque in Samara and what that has precipitated in the way of revenge. He concludes that “The bombing has completely demolished” what was being attempted — to bring Sunnis into the defense and interior ministries.

Our mission has failed because Iraqi animosities have proved uncontainable by an invading army of 130,000 Americans. The great human reserves that call for civil life haven't proved strong enough. No doubt they are latently there, but they have not been able to contend against the ice men who move about in the shadows with bombs and grenades and pistols.

The Iraqis we hear about are first indignant, and then infuriated, that Americans aren't on the scene to protect them and to punish the aggressors. And so they join the clothing merchant who says that everything is the fault of the Americans.

more at:
http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/buckley.asp

which rules out any stirrings of doubt on the part of George W. Bush, or his rabble of thieves and murderers.

We didn't vote for this crooked, evil, illegitimate regime that we call Bushco. Now it seems we will all pay the price. I think I will not live long enough to see the horrors of this administration righted. Not to mention those things that can never be fixed, like the lives and well being of thousands of people. I resent this war, this administration, this whole stupid and ill conceived republican administration. What will they do when its over, go back home and count their profits?

Buckley and his ilk.May they suffer for the evil they preferred.

"What will they do when its over, go back home and count their profits? (made even larger by the tax cuts they gave themselves) And leave us behind to pick up the pieces of their destructive evil agenda.

isn't that illegal according to the Patriot act?

Thinking, questioning, challenging the bushies would be sending the wrong message to the terrorists/insurgents/rejectionists -- so stop thinking and just drink the kookaid

good thing Buckley isn't running for any office or he would be on Rove's Hit list...

He hasn't the nads to pen a piece positing that Dems are Angry and unhappy -- Don't worry Be Happy say the Reps.

Boy is our face red! Whoopsie!

So why is he so surprised at these developments in Iraq...I'm not.

in the direction of his opinion on global warming.

His ego gets in his way mostly. I have long disagreed with him on many issues but he is a true conservative, I think.

Not the same thing as being good.

(I lampooned him in my novel, in the link below, and had a ball doing it.)

I was going to ask someone to translate the article for me!

Sadly, the baseline for discourse has deteriorated all around him.

sadly enough

whose every word should be doubted at every utterance.

there was a copy of National Review at the dr's office last week. i stuck one of my anti-bush flyers in it and wrote: ' Google PNAC and Downing Street Minutes' on the contents page.

"Iraqi animosity" is the reason for failure. Yeah, those Iraqi animals just can't be controlled.

Hey Buckley, you stupid tool, I have a few other reasons for the failure you may want to consider:

1. An unjustified invasion.
2. Incompetent planning, after a purge of generals who did not agree with Rumsfeld's plan.
3. Unobtainable purported objectives used as a smokescreen for the true objective - corporate profiteering.
4. Tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi casualties.
5. A policy of ignoring Geneva Conventions, resulting in torture of Iraqis and disgrace to the military.

Is WF Buckley still faking a British accent to sound smart?

His first language was Spanish. His parents moved to Paris for a year, and then to London. His accent is not contrived; that's how he speaks.

Certainly no one from Great Britain thinks that he has a British accent.

He has a fake accent just like another son of a rich oilman, GW Bush.

the Atlantic Ocean.
The accent is ridiculous. However, I have long copped a lot of his languid physical mannerisms. What can I say? I'm a fop.

i also grew up living in Virginia (born here), then spain at age 6, Teexas, then Washington Dc, and Japan during high school. So we ca't knock him for that :-)
Now his "logic" in politcal leanings, fire away!

He has a version of Lockjaw, an accent peculiar to the east coast gentry. Think Thurston Howell IV.

place, you supercilious, pompous dick!

It was a MORAL failure, a COGNITIVE failure, a POLITICAL failure, a LOGISTICAL failure, and a corruption of democratic ideals, the minute the first special ops groups went in, the minute the first sorties were flown, the minute Bush forced the inspectors out, the minute our "leaders" kow-towed to George "Commander Cuckoobananas" Bush and gave away their (and our self-respect).

The "mission" was ALWAYS a failure, you windbag.

Why don't you be completely honest while you're at it, and admit that the entire objective of your life has failed?

Sadly, I doubt you have the guts or integrity to admit the obvious.

"The terrorists want to control the oil. Our way of life will be at risk". George W. Bush (Nov. 2005)



Bush Regime Iraq Successes (Phase 1)

1. Saddam will not sell Iraqi oil via the Euro.

2, A military foothold in the ME. other than Saudi Arabia.

3, No countries will be able to buy Iraqi oil that the U.S. disapproves of.

4. The Multi-Intl. Oil Corps are reaping great profits.

5.The Military Industrial Complex is a booming Industry.


Phase 2?

what is he talking about failure for? Everything is working out swell. I don't see how Halliburton or the Carlyle Group will be hurt by a little more death and destruction. There's got to be profits to be had here. Where's the failure that you're talking about Will, you stoopid idiot.:banghead:

There's only success as far as the eye can see!
Because of the invasion:
The Bush family got a lot richer.
A lot of other rich people and corportions got a lot richer. That's only good for the Bush family.
Saddam was "taken out." The Bush family got its revenge.
War fever was maintained for years to allow Bush family consolidation of power.
No Bush family members were killed or injured.
It's all good!!

That oil was too valuable to leave in the hands of those living above it.

http://www.warprofiteers.com Know Your War Profiteers Playing Card Deck downloadable free online.

can exact their revenge for Bush's mistake?

Is that, once again, we were right about everything.

Nothing new - just ask Cassandra.

zzzz

by May of 2003.

But, then, we all know what the real objective was, oil.

This statement indicates that he no longer believes that freeing Iraq of its burden of oil will be profitable.

...for saying the same thing only a month ago, that this war is a failure and our presence is making it worse. same thing with o'lielly. the DEMS need to drive this point hom and drive it hard, that these GOP shills attacked them repeatedly as cowards for being reasonable, and looking at "facts," and surmising that the best course of action was to withdraw, and now that they can't get in any more shots, they admit it's the right thing to do (without ever admitting anything, of course).

a$$hats, every one! (sorry, that's my new word this week)

asshat is a great word. Ums this admin up nicely- they are as useful as asshats (or my fave, football bats). Welcome to DU :hi:

Amazing.

Saddam was gone the place would sink into an ages old relgio/politico struggle. Saddam had his finger in that dike for many years. But he was contained and had his hands full keeping the Shi'ite and Sunni's from tearing the country into pieces.

The fault of the Americans? I would say the fault of several "Americans" who happen to be running the country. Not letting the dems in congress/senate off the hook here. They should have said something and at least opposed *'s whacko plans. Now they are scrambling to keep him from giving every disgruntled fundy in the world a yellow brick road in the US via our major sea ports.
:mad: :mad:

They weren't speaking.

You knew it, I knew it, everyone but the GOP knew Iraq wasnt a good idea. But it takes them hundreds of billions, thousands of deaths and a civil war to admit they fukin blew it.

n/t

That's right Freepers.

don't forget "You break it, you OWN it!"

:rofl: I thought Buckley was at his finest in "Obscurity of Language" in this post...but behind the scenes I got that Mr. Buckley...the DEAN of Conservatives was suddenly breaking ranks with the "Neo-Cons."

Buckley prefers his "Legacy" to be Reaganomics rather than "Slash and Burn" BushistaNomics.

He was DISTANCING HIMSELF from the Bush FREAKS as fast as his professorial rhetoric could spin him.

I think it's a good sign. Buckley deserts the Bushies...will George Will be the NEXT to TURN TAIL AND RUN? :rofl:

I and others have been waiting decades to see that Pompous Ass implode on his own rhetoric.....It can't come too soon. That POS Buckley sold the COLD WAR down the throats of my GENERATION... It's HIS TURN FOR BLOW BACK!

:puke: on that Asshole Buckley.

Tell us what it really was? Or just prattle?

Isn't this what the Neo Cons planned all along ?

Remember we are in bizarre world

There is nothing about this article. (Which normally there would be.)

Silence of the Lambs???

:shrug:

If Buckley says we are done. We're done.

Bill Buckley’s Crocodile Tears
Kurt Nimmo

Friday February 24th 2006, 8:21 pm


Behold William F. Buckley, excuse maker. "One can’t doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed," Buckley begins, stating what some of us knew six months before the invasion (neocons are slow learners). "Our mission has failed because Iraqi animosities have proved uncontainable by an invading army of 130,000 Americans," continues the former CIA agent. "The great human reserves that call for civil life haven’t proved strong enough. No doubt they are latently there, but they have not been able to contend against the ice men who move about in the shadows with bombs and grenades and pistols."

In other words, for Buckley and no doubt many of his neocon fellows, the Iraqis are incapable of "civil life," never mind the underpinnings of such a life were systematically shock and awed to smithereens. As is often documented here, the "ice men" work for the Pentagon, the CIA, and the British SAS. Others are criminals taking advantage of a terrible situation. Bill is unable to admit all of this because he believes, or expects us to believe, the Pentagon failed its "mission."

Of course, the Pentagon did not fail its mission. Its mission was to destroy Iraq and that is precisely what it did. Now it will attempt to destroy Iran, although that will be a tough nut to crack.

It is interesting to witness neocons in turmoil. For instance, Reuel Marc Gerecht, another former CIA operative, although it is said there is nothing former with the CIA—you’re in for life, unless you pushed pencils or swept floors.

Gerecht "now speaks of the bombing of the especially sacred Shiite mosque in Samara and what that has precipitated in the way of revenge," writes Bill. "He concludes that 'The bombing has completely demolished’ what was being attempted—to bring Sunnis into the defense and interior ministries."


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sheesh, and people give you a mic?

moran.

- toppling Saddam for good? -> still hanging ( or still NOT hanging, for that matter )

- finding and destroying the WMD? -> failed indeed

- proving that the UN is obselete? -> actually, the UN destroyed a multifold of Saddam's chemical, biological, and nuclear arsenal, compared to that 'coalition of the willing'.

- setting up a beacon of democracy in the Middle East? -> well, there have been elections, but democracy cannot easily survive within a warzone, let alone being expanded.

- grabbing the oil? -> I actually wonder about that: are some grabbing the oil, or not? The media tells us that the levels of oilwinning are down, but are they?

- a quick and cheap victory? -> I don't recall who said it, but the day the coalition invaded the country with only the back-up of a bunch of lies, they already lost.

- a new base from which to attack Iran? -> succeeded: permanent bases have been built. And them escaped prisoners in Yemen provided a nice cover to move in more battleships.

it's not a total zero / F-grade. It's majorly flunked though.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

These frauds heard it all prior to the BS invasion and actively worked to subvert the truth.

Suddenly, they've seen the light? Bulllllllllllllllllllllllshittttttttttttttttt.

AFTER their IWR vote? Who criticize the Bush administration retroactively for things they did not oppose at the time?

Is it an equal hating field here, or is it only hateful when the other side does it?

"The great human reserves that call for civil life haven't proved strong enough. No doubt they are latently there..."

The older he gets, the more he sounds like Goebbels.