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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:03 PM
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Dear Gov. Dean -- NSA, Telco illegal spying pre-dates 9/11 ...
Edited on Wed Jan-04-06 06:06 PM by understandinglife
4 January 2006 (# 30)

Shane Harris and Tim Naftali wrote an interesting article in Slate on January 3, 2006, that I wanted to be sure you didn’t miss. Any effort by Bush and the neoconsters to continue the “if we had been doing it before 9/11, we might have prevented it …” is readily debunked by Harris and Naftali:

Citing current and former government and corporate officials, the Times reported that the companies have granted the NSA access to their all-important switches, the hubs through which colossal volumes of voice calls and data transmissions move every second. A former telecom executive told us that efforts to obtain call details go back to early 2001, predating the 9/11 attacks and the president's now celebrated secret executive order. The source, who asked not to be identified so as not to out his former company, reports that the NSA approached U.S. carriers and asked for their cooperation in a "data-mining" operation, which might eventually cull "millions" of individual calls and e-mails.

Like the pressure applied to ITT a half-century ago, our source says the government was insistent, arguing that his competitors had already shown their patriotism by signing on. The NSA would not comment on the issue, saying that, "We do not discuss details of actual or alleged operational issues."

Link: http://www.slate.com/id/2133564


It appears that as soon as Bush, Cheney, and Condi Rice got inside the West Wing all the rules were being broken as quickly as possible – and, even before junior legal eagles were instructed to paper Bush’s violations of the law and the Constitution with their opinions.

We have no reason to doubt that the Bush neoconster agenda is totalitarian oligarchy and unchecked imperialism.

We now have no reason to doubt that they began breaking the law and violating the Constitution upon being ushered into the White House by the Supreme Court.

As one colleague at Democratic Underground cogently states:

The government is supposed to be transparent, while the citizenry is supposed to be free of unlawful search and seizure.

These guys think the citizenry should be transparent, with the government vested with immutable “privacy” rights.

Wrong.

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=31336&mesg_id=40127


Couple the above with the behavior of NBC and Andrea Mitchell -- as AMERICABlog and Atrios note, NBC deleted two paragraphs from a transcript of Andrea Mitchell’s interview of New York Times reporter and author, James Risen. What did they delete?

Mitchell: Do you have any information about reporters being swept up in this net?

Risen: No, I don't. It's not clear to me. That's one of the questions we'll have to look into the future. Were there abuses of this program or not? I don't know the answer to that

Mitchell: You don't have any information, for instance, that a very prominent journalist, Christiane Amanpour, might have been eavesdropped upon?

Risen: No, no I hadn't heard that.


Link: http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/01/nbc-changes-official-transcript-of.html


Answer – the two paragraphs highlighted in bold + italics.

Why would Andrea Mitchell have asked such a specific question? And, even more importantly, why would she have named Christiane Amanpour?

As you know, Ms. Amanpour is the wife of Jamie Rubin – member of the Clinton administration, adviser to Gen. Wesley Clark and to Senator John Kerry during his 2004 Presidential campaign. One needs almost zero imagination to innumerate all the possible politically motivated reasons for Bush’s illegal spying activity that could be represented in the intercepts of communications of someone like Ms. Amanpour.

King George and his entire neoconsters entourage must be stopped. Impeachment of Bush and Cheney should be at the top of every Democratic candidate's list of commitments to their respective constituencies in the 2006 National Election.

Thank you for your continued leadership,



Peace.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:18 PM
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1. So did Able Danger. Please demand those 6385 names on that list.
That will tell you a lot about who the DIA was spying on before 9/11. Then, there are all those pre-9/11 CARNIVORE intercepts the FBI says it botched. See, http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00257.htm
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:19 PM
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2. Cumulative letter index:
# 1 -- Dear Gov. Dean --- America, Or Not?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5531641

# 2 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush knows he's lying ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5541924

# 3 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Talk about extreme hiking …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5551415

# 4 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- About those “Niger forgeries” ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5560254

# 5 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- On Passing the "Nuremberg chalice" …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5568226

# 6 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Beyond a wall for “The Fallen Legion” …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5574037&mesg_id=5574037

# 7 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Let’s take Wally O’Dell at his word …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x404707

# 8 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “Making it up” … Must Be Stopped
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5593443&mesg_id=5593443

# 9 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "Accumulated evil of the whole"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5601256&mesg_id=5601256

# 10 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Just dial 1-800-CALL-SPY ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5608382&mesg_id=5608382

# 11 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "Same Intel as Congress," NOT ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5611041&mesg_id=5611041

# 12 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- On Concealing Crimes …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5608382&mesg_id=5615989

# 13 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- No One Is Above The Law In America
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5630443&mesg_id=5630443

# 14 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Why did Bush violate FISA and the 4th Amendment?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5638345&mesg_id=5638345

# 15 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "From Conservative Scholars to Sigint specialists …"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5647673&mesg_id=5649953

# 16 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The BIG New York Times story yet to be told …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5660702&mesg_id=5660702

# 17 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The rabid dogs are cornered …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5666006&mesg_id=5666006

# 18 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Bush's Treasonous Christmas Gift to Iran ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5675687

# 19 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Make Room at the Inn for the Two Ethnic Uighurs ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5679357&mesg_id=5679357

# 20 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The Destruction of Meaning ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5684701&mesg_id=5684701

# 21 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- It's No Longer Baseball ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5687852&mesg_id=5687852

# 22 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- It's the Oppression of Females ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=29232

# 23 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- “GOP wins Senate, holds House, CNN projects"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5703874&mesg_id=5703874

# 24 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- GOPers either Impeach Bush or Lose in 2006
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=19413

# 25 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Coleen Rowley speaks truth to Bush's liars-for-hire …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=8294

# 26 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- The Bush, Blair Confess-or-Boil Policy ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2667

# 27 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- "Total Information Awareness" -- For ALL Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=31336&mesg_id=31336

# 28 -- Dear Gov. Dean - Even Ashcroft said “No”; So, why did the NYTimes hide it?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=37023&mesg_id=37023

# 29 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Congratulations, and …
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=43982&mesg_id=43982

# 30 -- Dear Gov. Dean -- Dear Gov. Dean -- NSA, Telco illegal spying pre-dates 9/11 ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=52300&mesg_id=52300


You are free to distribute these, and otherwise make use of the content within each letter, without having to contact me. If anyone would like a .pdf compilation of all the letters, just pm me with an email address and I'll send you a copy.


Peace.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 06:58 PM
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3. On Al Franken today he had someone on who stressed that the FISA Court
Judges were selected by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. She indicated that SCJ Rehniquist was responsible for many of the judges, so why the need for * to sidestep this rubberstamp? This is very telling. This is a complete grab!

Did you catch this one?

Bush Prepares to Bypass New Torture Ban
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010406A.shtml
When President Bush last week signed the bill outlawing the torture of detainees, he quietly reserved the right to bypass the law under his powers as commander in chief.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 08:14 PM
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5. "Did you catch this one?" -- Yes. The guy is literally mocking Congress.
He could not be more blatant in his criminality and in his disregard for the Constitution.


Peace.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 07:23 PM
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4. Would certainly explain why they could cheat so fucking well!!!
Think of it: these bastards exploited their power from day one! Why shouldn't we believe that they have been SPYING in order to maintain/sustain that power? Why wouldn't they intercept political communications and media communications in order to STEAL political power?

Are these sons-a-bitches culpable enough to engage in such tyrannical activities? You damn better believe they are that culpable.

Now, they are working on creating a world war that will profit them HUGELY and cost us, this country and the world dearly.

Why hasn't the FBI DONE ITS FUCKING JOB AND ARRESTED THESE ANTI-AMERICAN, ANTI-CONSTITUTION, ANTI-DEMOCRACY, ANTI-JUSTICE, FELONIOUS ASSHOLES?!?!?!?! :grr: Criminals are running the country. Felons! :grr:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 08:15 PM
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6. I agree with you.
Peace.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 08:18 PM
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7. Hmmm. Early 2001. About the same time the NeoCons officially took over.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 08:19 PM
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8. HuffPo: "Hello, Christine? What's that Clicking?"
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 08:53 PM
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9. .
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:22 AM
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10. .
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:24 AM
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11. Was Christiane Amanpour spied on -- and more importantly, if so, why?
Good read:

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002621.html

And, as AMERICABlog has reported, NBC is investigating if Bush's neoconster NSA spied on Ms. Amanpour.


Peace.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 03:34 PM
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13. Hotline inside-the-beltway journal covers Amanpour/Mitchell spy story
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 01:56 PM
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12. Dear Gov. Dean -- “Solving” the Iraqi WMD problem …
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 01:57 PM by understandinglife
5 January 2006 (# 31)

Just whose problem needed solving? Simple answer: Bush’s.

Raw Story published an article today that contains considerable background info of the Pentagon’s Office of Special Plans, and I suggest you read all of it if you have not already done so.

The portion I want to focus is:

This smaller unnamed team was tasked with interviewing former Iraqi intelligence officers in hopes of securing help with a “political WMD” problem, a source close to the UN Security Council says.

During the summer of 2003 through the fall of 2003, the team, whose members who were not named by sources, is said to have interviewed many Iraqi intelligence and former intelligence officers. The UN source says that the political problem discussed had more to do with solving the lack of WMD than anything else.

“They come in the summer of 2003, bringing in Iraqis, interviewing them,” the UN source said. “Then they start talking about WMD and they say to (these Iraqi intelligence officers) that ‘Our President is in trouble. He went to war saying there are WMD and there are no WMD. What can we do? Can you help us?’”

Link: http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Secretive_military_unit_sought_to_solve_0105.html


A “political WMD problem”; indeed it is and it needs to become a legal problem for Bush and the neoconsters, real soon.

What is also essential to realize is the key role forensics would contribute to any attempt to fake, i.e., plant WMD. The article concludes, appropriately, with an example of just how important:

"A good example of how forensics is used can be found in the recent development around enriched uranium isotopes found on centrifuges in Iran,” one said. “Iran claimed to have purchased the centrifuges from Pakistan, but certain people pushing for war with Iraq were claiming that this was evidence of Iraqis reconstituting their nuclear weapons program. The forensics showed that the Iranians were telling the truth and that they in fact had purchased the items from Pakistan, a US ally."


Relevance extends beyond the above example to the persistent efforts of Bush and the neoconsters to contrive a reason to attack Iran.

This is the type of information that can enable the acceleration of the public’s demand for Bush and Cheney to be impeached and prosecuted. I hope the DNC encourages candidates to hold Bush and his neoconster gang accountable for all the crimes they have committed and all the lies they have told.

Thank you for your continued leadership,



Peace.


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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 04:22 PM
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14. Your DNC: Delivering 160,000+ FOIA Requests re: NSA spying
Shortly after the New York Times publicized the president's secret domestic-spying-without-a-warrant program, the Democratic National Committee sent out an email asking Americans to add their name to Governor Howard Deans in a Freedom of Information Act request. Over 160,000 individuals responded in attempt to determine just why President Bush thought he had the authority to undermine the Constitution.

More at the link:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1/5/155354/6802



Peace.
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