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bbranine Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:55 AM
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Iraq
The reason we went into iraq the first place is to remove Saddam from power, I mean he has been beating,killing, raping his own people since the Clinton administration.
The final straw for him was the attempted genocide of the Sunni population, and the WMDs we're looking for have been spent generating the guilt for him in the charge of genocide of that population.
Now we're remaining there to give them a security force of thier own only to find it is erupting into a all out civil war right under our noses, we are turtling for ratings and need to get to work and train iraqis and get our troops the hell out of there after the job is done.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:58 AM
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1. we went to Iraq, because BushCo told us Iraq was immanent threat
remember "mushroom cloud" ....
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:59 AM
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2. NO. Reasons we invaded Iraq - WMDs; ties to 9/11. Remember?
That was the "official line" - Saddam was involved in 9/11 and he had a bunch of big bad weapons that could hurt us, not to mention nukes. Booga booga!!

We are remaining there because the plan is to control the region. Our troops will never leave as long as these idiots are in power.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:00 AM
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3. Since the Clinton administration?
Edited on Wed Mar-01-06 11:10 AM by WilliamPitt
He's been doing it since the Nixon administration, fellow.

You think he used 26,000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin, 500 tons (1,000,000 pounds) of sarin, mustard and vx nerve agent, 30,000 munitions, arial drones and uranium from Niger (these numbers provided by Mr. Bush in his 2003 SOTU address) killing Sunnis?

Dig this. Iraqi gas, which we provided to Hussein during the Reagan era, has no scent. Iranian gas, however, smells like rotten fruit. The now-infamous attack on the town of Halabja had survivors describing the smell of the gas being like rotten fruit. So who gassed these people?

You come to the correct conclusion - we need to get out - but I think you need to educate yourself on our history with the man and the country, why we are really there, and where the responsibility for all this lies.

PS: Hussein is a Sunni. Why was he practicing genocide on his own people? Before you opine, learn the demographics.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:02 AM
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4. thank you - maybe they haven't seen the Rumsfeld picture either
Edited on Wed Mar-01-06 11:05 AM by stop the bleeding
from the early eighties shaking hands with Saddam


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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:02 AM
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5. Welcome to DU
:popcorn:
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:04 AM
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7. Pass some of that please.
:popcorn:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:03 AM
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6. The Sunni's - genocide ?!?!?!? I thought Saddam was pro Sunni and
if anything would be after the Shia and Kurds - WTF am I missinng something here or do you have your facts twisted??
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:54 AM
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18. Goes to show you how STUPID freepers are....
saddam IS a sunni....
I have never been in favor of sterilization but JEEEEEZZZEEEE!!!!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:59 AM
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22. beyond stupid is there a word that would quantify their "rock mentality"
stupid is too good for them.

Yes I am for taking them out of the gene pool as well
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:04 PM
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27. Don't want to give stupid folks a bad name.....
They haven't done anything wrong.... bless their hearts
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:04 AM
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8. Are you just making this stuff up as you go along?
...or do you receive it in a fax in the morning?

BTW, Saddam was not accused of genocide of the Sunni population. He's accused of repressing the Shiites, not the Sunnis, and he's currently only charged with a single incident in which his military put down a rebellion after an assassination attempt. He is not charged with any of the other 'crimes' for which he was paid by us to commit.

We paid Saddam to oppress the Shiites to act as a 'bulwark' against radicial Islam from Iran for many, many years. Perhaps you're not old enough to remember, but if he's guilty of these things, then so are we, since we paid him to do it (until the invasion of Kuwait, that is).

We are never going to be able to prop up an acceptable puppet government there, so there's no point in remaining. The only thing we are doing right now is deepening resentments all over the region (and the world, for that matter)
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:05 AM
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9. Ummm.. NO.
The reason why we went to war with Iraq was because there were supposed "WMD's"

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:07 AM
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10. I'm getting some popcorn and ordering a pizza
:popcorn:

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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:26 AM
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14. It's not very often that we get a gold-star pizza
If ya know what I mean...

:popcorn:
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:31 AM
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15. I don't think the
star was there earlier, like taking candy from a baby.

Oh well maybe they will last long enough to learn some truth or facts.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:08 AM
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11. Read this - maybe it will clear things up
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:12 AM
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12. BULLSHIT ALERT!
You need to stop listening to Rush and Hannity as your only news source, fella!
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:17 AM
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13. I think you need to stick around and learn a few truths...
Then again Hannity is on at 3:00. Take a bath.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:51 AM
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16. Huh?
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:00 PM
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24. Don't try to figure it out, TahitiNut.
This is what passes for subtlety amongst the freeps.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:15 PM
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29. It must be something in the water there.
:shrug: Are they using formaldehyde for drinking water fluoridation? :crazy:
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:51 AM
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17. Heh...
:rofl:

Oh, wait...you were serious???
Oi!
You love this illegal invasion so much, you need to go here ----> www.goarmy.com and get your ass over to Iraq.

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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:54 AM
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19. I believe the genocide happened during the Reagan Admin.!
This has been used as evidence against Saddam to remove him. But, that administration agreed with those tactics then, so why is it such a problem now?
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:00 PM
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And it was the Kurds n/t
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:56 AM
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20. just in time for lunch....
:popcorn:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:57 AM
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21. well suit on up and go join them.
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Chomp Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:59 AM
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23. I don't think
I've seen a DU post before where literally every single "fact" cited is wrong. Each and every one.

Moran.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:00 PM
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25. Uhhhh....he's been doing this a lot longer than the Clinton administration
In fact, he was doing it back when Rumsfeld went to visit his friend Saddam back in the early 80s:



Or have you forgetten that?
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:04 PM
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26. Go back to FRetard City, moron
We supposedly went into Iraq to get rid of WMD, idiot. Do you seriously think the nation would have supported thousands of dead and a trillion dollars to get rid of one flea-bitten dictator.

Since the Clinton administration? Man, you really know your history, dullard. Remember the first gulf war? Who was president then, genius-boy? Oh, you weren't even born then. Go fuck yourself.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:06 PM
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28. C'mon, man, don't leave us hanging like this!
Some people have made very valid points - why aren't you responding to them?

I can't imagine you would post something like this here without being confident in your opinion, so BACK IT UP!

Peace!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:16 PM
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30. second that n/t
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:21 PM
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31. Such Naivety,,how quaint
A little research, just a little tiny bit will tell the real story. You should give it a try. :shrug:
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trekbiker Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 12:28 PM
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32. the mods didn't ax this guy did they???
I want to hear him reply... it was just getting fun too..
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33. Locking....
The author is no longer with us.
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