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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 07:50 PM
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Tweety's affect is peculiar by any standard
I know, I know, many of you are sick of hearing about Tweety. So stop reading now.

For the rest of the interested viewers, I have to say that I believe that he is decompensating rapidly, as are many others who have been advocating the Administration's policies during these five long years. When faced with the obvious dissonance between his oh-so-personal feelings about the Republicans and the higher order truth, Tweety utters abrupt 'uh-huh's with a dismissive, hurry-it-along intent. The first person whom I saw perform this act in the media was Larry King, when callers try to explain the nuances of their questions, he would 'uh-huh' them and then restate a different question for the guest to answer. Strangely, only Don Rickles ever called him on it in all the years of my watching King - time wasted, it must be said.

Tweety states many of the negatives of the Administration and then, when the WH shills attempt to strike down criticism, he starts mutterring 'Yeah', thus negating his original negativity. It's almost clever, but he's not executing it smoothly, and he's just a lower middle working class shot and a beer slob who's been shown to the wrong seat in the great theater of American politics. He always claims he has Philly roots, I'm from Philly, most of my friends are from Philly , and I must say that he is not the kind of Philadelphian who was ever regarded as a man of substance by those of us who have some or any sophistication at all whatsoever. He's really a K & A (that's Kensington and Allegheny Avenue) miscreant. I believe that he claims to hail from Delaware County, where his brother is running with Lynn Swann for Governor, and is as close to Appalachia as we have close to the city. The nature of these people is one of blessed dogmatic adherence to ignorance. These folks from the Delaware Valley are proud of their stupidity and if you don't belive that, watch a Mummer's Parade some year.

The fact is that he's a repressed fool who, by playing ball with the hot shots running his network, is way over his head. He should be hosting a talent show here on Channel 17 or 48. That's where he belongs, and that's where he may wind up.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 07:53 PM
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1. De-compensating?? He Has His Finger Up In The Air! Just Think
Keith MUST have better ratings than him!! He can't let THAT happen!
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 07:55 PM
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2. Tweety just can't stop falling in love with republicans. It's really kind
of sad to see him struggle to keep his love lust from showing. He puts up a good fight from time to time, but end the end he loses the battle every day.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 07:55 PM
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3. OMG, that was the BEST laugh I've had in months!!
I'm from Philly, too and I think you are spot on about Tweety!!

Funny, I worked at Temple Hospital (Tioga and Allegheny) for years and I had never heard the expression K&A- That's a riot!
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 07:56 PM
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4. Really...?
I have patients who say to me, "My God, my tooth fell out and I looked like I was from K & A"
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:28 PM
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22. He's more like a 2-streeter
or one of those people whose family moved from southwest Philly to Delaware County when it got too "diverse."
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 07:59 PM
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5. I often read the muttered 'Yeah' as sarcastic -- translated as
"you are so full of BS" or "your lie is so lame even you don't believe it"

depends on the context though -- cuz the 'yeah' is often followed by a sound dismantling of the bushbot
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:02 PM
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10. Respectfully disagree, emulatorloo
Really, with all due respect for your opinion, I haven'ts wseen that happen to a bushbot on his show 5% of the time during the past 5 years. Honestly, I wish I were wrong.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:05 PM
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11. Please Go watch this video clip if you can
http://www.canofun.com/cof/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=16369

Subject: VIDEO- Chris Matthews Smackdown of Tori Clarke
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:08 PM
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13. Fair enough...
I know you can find a few times where he gets upset at the RW, but I think that's more out of frustration that they're screwing up so badly, like when we get furious at, say, Kerry for windsurfing, when although we know that it's perfectly fine to do so, that it will be spun by the RW Rethugs as 'elitist'. Tweety goes off when things are getting out of hand, but you'll never see him do a Joseph Welch and say, "At long last, have you no decency?"
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:24 PM
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19. Personally I will always remember Tweety as one of the few who
exposed the Swiftboat crap for what it was -- full of holes, politically motivated BS. He took Swifty Larry Thurlow apart, gave Max Cleland a good platform, and called Malkin on her "some people say" BS

He pisses me off all the time, but that's one thing I remember -- too bad he was in the minority on that. And too bad he went all Bush-mad after Rove slapped him around later in 04.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5765243/

<snip>

'Hardball with Chris Matthews' for August 19
Read the transcript to Thursday's show

Updated: 11:51 p.m. ET Aug. 19, 2004

Guest: Larry Thurlow, Michael Dobbs, Max Cleland, Michelle Malkin, Willie Brown, Dana Milbank, David Gergen

CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Tonight, political war breaks out over the swift boat ad, and John Kerry come out swinging against the president.

<snip>
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 07:59 PM
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6. Pardon my ignorance but...
Tweety is short for...?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:00 PM
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8. Chris Matthews EOM
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:00 PM
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9. Chris Matthews
Tweety because ne's MSRNC's 'dumb blond'...
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:22 PM
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17. I don't think I've watched him (assuming he's a TV politcal commentator)
I Don't like most of the propaganda on TV. What station?
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:24 PM
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20. MSNBC...
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lumberingbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:00 PM
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7. I can't look at him...
He has no teeth and he is starting to spit!
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:06 PM
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12. Not so much supported the policies
He has questioned those over the years.

But bush has been a hero to him. He really, really, really likes/admires bush. So anytime he complains about policies he shifts the blame to others in the administration, believing bush has nobler motives.

His shock about the poll were the low personal approval ratings of bush. He thought he was so in tune with middle America (he said this), but people don't like bush, what happened?
He didn't try to brush it off either, he is puzzled. A panelist talked about the skew to Democrats and all adults, not just likely voters.
But tweety brought up how he looks at the Independent voters, taking out all partisans and Independents were well lower then the overall approval ratings. People really didn't like him.

I am not saying this in defense of him, I think it's creepy how he sees such "sunny nobility" and personal appeal and warmth in this empty facade of a president. He is honestly surprised and troubled.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:15 PM
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15. With best personal regards...
I don't believe he's 'honestly' aything. I think he's a low-class fraud and a prig. And you can pronounce that any way you like.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:19 PM
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16. He has a pretty typical school boy crush on Bush.
Only problem - Tweety is 30 years past the age that he should be feeling this way.

He is a sick little boy who actually thinks he understands how people feel/think.

I often wonder what it would be like to have him in the family - just imagine dinner with him. I would constantly need to look at my feet in order not to laugh in his face and, more importantly, avoid looking at other family members as they react to and become more and more embarrassed at his emotional immaturity and hero worship.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:23 PM
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18. Dinner with Tweety:
You'd be wearing half of his portion, the way he spits and slobbers. Assuming of course, that you'd have an appetite. Fact of the matter is that he uses the words "Philly Cheesesteak" and other local terms so that you'd think he was just a hometown hero. Nobody here ever mentions his name, ever.

Bonus: What do South philly deniznes call wall-to-wall carpet?

Answer: Thee-a-ter carpeting...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:11 PM
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14. One show of his....
Edited on Wed Mar-01-06 08:15 PM by stillcool47
that stays in my head...his guest was Joe Biden, and they were discussing Plamegate...Here's the part of the conversation that had such a lasting effect....
It is totally inappropriate. Whether it is criminally wrong is another question. I‘ll let the Justice Department make that judgment. But for him to make the distinction that it has no difference, to say, I never mentioned Valerie Plame‘s name. I did mention, as I understand it from the press accounts—I may be wrong—from the press accounts I‘ve seen, he has indicated that he said Ambassador Wilson‘s wife is a member of the CIA.
That to me is a distinction without any difference, Chris, any difference, whether he states her name or not. It is like saying, you know, that guy who does HARDBALL, the guy with that full shock of hair who knows what he‘s talking about, that guy out there is the guy I think that works for the CIA.

MATTHEWS: Well, suppose...

BIDEN: I didn‘t mention your name

...the body language and facial expressions keep me wondering...but then everything these days keeps me wondering...
edit to add link

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551784/
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:24 PM
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21. Actually, you're wrong.
He was born in Nicetown but went to LaSalle College High School, so the family had money. His father was a court reporter, which is a decent job. If anything, he's what my mother would call "lace-curtain Irish."
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:28 PM
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23. Not exactly landed gentry...
no one ever said he was poor, he just pretends to be one of the masses. I.Q. wise, he is.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:31 PM
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24. Excellent description of the
pickle this nouveau riche asshat finds himself in. But since he's making millions now, that's all he cares about, so it'll be one of those wtf moments for him if/when it dawns on him exactly what an idiot and clueless tool he is.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:44 PM
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25. Speaking of Mummers...
Edited on Wed Mar-01-06 08:47 PM by IMModerate
As a non-Philadephian, that is something I have always found fascinating and mysterious. They always seemed surreal to me. The headdresses, the instrumentation, largely sax and banjo and glockenspiel, the mad pace. What is that all about? Thanks for any info.



--IMM

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:48 PM
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26. Wow where do I start?
Google it and pour yourself a drink...they certainly do.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:40 PM
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28. Thanks, I took a look.
I can't stay with it too long. Maybe it's the lack of drink. About four minutes of mummers might be enough.

--IMM
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:56 PM
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27. Rec'd! Sounds like
you've put a lot of thought into this PCIntern and I don't even have to be from Philly to know tweety is low class.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 10:22 PM
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29. K&R
Edited on Wed Mar-01-06 10:29 PM by Kurovski
I like this savaging from the local perspective.

Thumping the media enablers is every bit as important to our Democracy as unmasking the scam-artists in the White House.

Folks sometimes complain around here about all the media-talk, but along with taking down BushCo, it's important to take down the media personalities whom made it possible for BushCo to get as far as it has.
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