Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

See if you follow my crazy theory... (about new anti-abortion bill frenzy)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:27 PM
Original message
See if you follow my crazy theory... (about new anti-abortion bill frenzy)
While reading this board I came up with this crazy thought.

All of the sudden, many states are proposing bans on abortion and it seems they might be successful. But

why? I know, I know... the ALITO issue, but that is the obvious.

The thing is that the GOP won't lose any Freeper over this abortion issue and some

Religious-Conservative-Democrats might be incline to vote for those Conservative

Senators or Governors because of this bill. Ok... before I lose you, my point is that the GOP will have

the cake and eat it too. They will place anti-abortion laws but these are symbolic since the purpose

will be only to get a few votes just the same way they are lame on inmigration. I know, it is

complicated. If I only could explain myself here. There will be no back alley abortions but very clean

ones. US Pharmaceutical companies will produce abortion pills to be sold overseas but those will

eventually make it to the US and politicians will just play dumb just like the war on drugs or

inmigration laws. Who knows, freepers are so corrupt they might form an abortion pill cartel.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:33 PM
Response to Original message
1. Possible, though the people in these states by and large....
want abortion to be mainly illegal. You won't see this in New England or the West Coast.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. I agree. What worries me is that poor people, once again,
will pay the price.

People when I was coming of age, who had money, could get abortions. Poor folks, or young women, students, often couldn't. They wound up with all kinds of trouble and sometimes even died.

Mississippi - theoretically if they pass a law banning abortion people could just cross the state line. But what if they have no money, no way out of town?

It's always the little people who suffer.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. But you can always smuggle a pill just like people do with drugs...
It will be cheaper than to cross state lines or fight to where they could get an abortion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. True! But people don't always figure these things out in
time to take a pill. Especially young people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. What will happen is a "good republican"
girl will need an abortion, but the rub is it will be a back alley abortion.

That is the only thing that the RW gets, only if it happens to them, will they do something about it.

Reactive, not proactive
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. Republican won't need to worry...
Once the law get to Congress and is passed by Bush he will comment that Abortion is only legal in cases where the life of the mother is in danger or she carries a baby who's father is non-white.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. True. But many of these same areas are places
where there are "dry" counties that stay "dry" because certain county bigwigs either run bootlegging operations or "private clubs". I recall that MS was dry statewide for decades after Repeal. It got so the bootleggers advertised in the yellow pages under "distributors". So the hypocrisy is in place.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #1
13. I totally agree with you
the "middle" America looks for feelings, not reality.

If I have a baby inside of me, OH yes, that would be a reality
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:37 PM
Response to Original message
2. I've been thinking about an RU-40 black market springing up
A lot of folks don't realize that marijuana used to be legal in this country-it was only criminalized when Dow invented nylon, which was in direct competition with hemp. It stayed illegal and cocaine was added to the illegal list so that the CIA could fund operations without having to go through Congress. That the freepers might do what you say wouldn't surprise me at all.

However, I think these moves may backfire. Already I'm hearing of folks recoiling in horror at the thought of rape and incest victims having to bear what is the product of a crime. Add to this horror stories of women with dead fetuses inside who cannot get an abortion because their lives aren't in danger until their bodies go septic-there will be a backlash in this country, and the more states that do this, the more likely that backlash will come pretty soon.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. You are so right...
Suicide will also increase and also murder (maybe the father is not ready to have a child and will kill the mother, etc.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:45 PM
Response to Original message
7. Much as I'd like to believe in your silver lining, Lost-in-FL, I have to
disagree. The fundies mean business. If you didn't see the clinic defenses in the 80s and 90s and you didn't deal with Operation Rescue, then you have no way of knowing just how serious these groups are. Even a little encouragement is enough for them to start violent attacks and to ram legislation through state houses.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. It only takes a couple of corrupt politicians...
a money hungry followers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. Not sure where you are going with this one.
Sorry, I just don't get the connection
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:49 PM
Response to Original message
9. The abortion pill only works in a pretty short time frame
Nope.

The idiots who have been elected are like dogs chasing a car...and they caught it.

Now what the fuck are they gonna do with it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. It does work on a short amount of time...
anyone would be able to get them at the clubs like if you were getting condoms or worse, any drug.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:11 PM
Response to Original message
14. What pisses me off
is that men can control what I do with my body, NOT


I am a professional woman, so why do they have a say on how I make my decisions????????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:15 PM
Response to Original message
15. But the abortion pill is only useful for a short time, isn't that true?
If it only takes a pill... I can't imagine anyone going to get a full-blown abortion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. they can always "better" their product
to make it more effective.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 02:01 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC