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Warchild Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:24 PM
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Need answer quick!!!!!!
Can Bill Clinton run for the office of POTUS in 2008?

In discussion right now and someone says he can't by law. I say he can.
Who is right?

tia
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:25 PM
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1. No, he cannot.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:25 PM
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2. NO!
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Warchild Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:26 PM
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7. okay
thanks....
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:28 PM
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16. See this link.
The Twenty-second Amendment of the United States Constitution sets a term limit for the President of the United States, providing that "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once." Prior to the adoption of the amendment, the constitution set no limit on the number of presidential terms. The United States Congress proposed the amendment on March 21, 1947. It was ratified by the requisite number of states on February 27, 1951.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
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Warchild Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:32 PM
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21. thank you, napi21
for some goofy reason I was thinking two consecutive terms were the limit, but coming back after a term or two off was streetlegal.

I stand corrected and educated.
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land of the free Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:32 PM
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22. So, if he were elected as Vice President
and the President couldn't fulfill his/her term, could he become President?

I always assumed the answer was NO, that he was ineligible to run for VP.

But, in reading this, he cannot be "elected" to the post of President a third time.

Just curious.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:47 PM
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25. I assume the answer is no too.
There are other requirements that aren't in that link above. One that comes to mind is that the President and VP cannot be from the same State.

I don't think it's specifically stated anywhere that a former Pres cannot serve as VP, but since the principal reason for a VP is to take over the Presidency in the event the Pres cannot coninue serving makes me think a former 2 termer couldn't be a VP.

I think we need a constitution law expert to answer that one for sure.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:25 PM
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3. Of course not n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:25 PM
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4. No n/t
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:26 PM
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5. He cannot
Prohibited by the Constitution. No president can serve more than two terms in office under any circumstances.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:29 PM
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18. So technically he could run but could not serve.
Edited on Wed Mar-01-06 11:30 PM by bananas
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:26 PM
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6. Nope...
Constitutionally prohibited!!!
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:27 PM
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14. No, but technically he could be VP. Wont happen, though.
Because he couldn't take over as Pres if something were to happen. It would have to pass to Speaker of the House. So no Pres candidate would ever pick him as VP.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:31 PM
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19. Read the 22nd amendment carefully... you might find something interesting.
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section. 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.

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Now, as far as I can tell, if you assume the job of President from Vice President, you aren't elected.

Holy shit, that means that George W Bush can serve another term! (he wasn't elected in 2000, he was appointed)
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Warchild Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:37 PM
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24. George W Bush can serve another term! (he wasn't elected in 2000, he was a
Edited on Wed Mar-01-06 11:39 PM by Warchild
pointed"


hmmm, might be best to kind'a keep the lid on that one. ;)
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:37 PM
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23. Actually...it is fairly certain he could not run as VP...
Constitution bars VP candidates who are constitutionally barred from the Presidency. Some believe there is a loophole in that a former President would not be barred from taking over the Presidency is say he were elected Speaker of the house, and the Pres and VP died. But the clear intention of the 22nd amendment was to limit a person to two elected terms in the WHite house. CUriosly, if a previously two term President were to become President again by the method above, he could not run for election on his own after that.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:26 PM
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8. Sorry
Sucks to be you.

;)
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:26 PM
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9. Nope. 22nd amendment?
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jschurchin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:26 PM
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10. Nope!!!!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:27 PM
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11. No, but he could run as VP n/t
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:27 PM
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12. Well, he could run, I s'pose...but he couldn't serve.
There's no law against running for president 3 times, as far as I know.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:27 PM
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13. Al Franken said he'd chose Bill as his running mate and resign if elected.
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Warchild Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:28 PM
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17. oh that Al!!
he is always out front of everybody, ain't he
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:28 PM
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15. No, not unless the amendment forbidding it is repealed
to let Stupid run again, something the extremists and cultists suggest every so often until one of us reminds them it would mean he'd face Clinton.

He can't even run for VP, since that office specifies someone who is qualified to run for the top slot.

The most anyone can serve as President is ten years, two years of a term he inherits through the office of VP plus 8 of his own. If he serves more than 2 years of somebody else's term, that's counted as a full term.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 11:32 PM
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20. 22nd amendment
The part that applies ;)

The 22nd Amendment

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.


There's been some talk about rethugs trying to get rid of this so that * can run again.
Many here said they would be happy to vote for Bill Clinton a third time.
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Denver Devil Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:32 AM
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26. Heh he he...
What do you think Hillary would have to say about THAT?:smoke:
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