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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:53 AM
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"No One Could Have Anticipated..."
(truthout link to final coming soom)

The video is gut-wrenching.

There they sit, a whole room full of hurricane experts and disaster managers, shouting down a telephone line at George W. Bush, warning him a full day ahead of time that Hurricane Katrina is a catastrophe waiting to happen. There stands Max Mayfield, Director of the National Hurricane Center, emphatically explaining that Katrina is far larger and more dangerous than Hurricane Andrew, that the levees in New Orleans are in grave danger of being overtopped, and that the loss of life could be extreme.

There sits the much-maligned FEMA Director Michael Brown, joining in the chorus of warnings to Mr. Bush and giving every appearance of a man actually doing his job. "This is, to put it mildly, the big one," says Brown. "Everyone within FEMA is now virtually on call." Brown goes on to deliver an eerily accurate prediction of the horrors to come within the Louisiana Superdome. "I don't know what the heck we're going to do for that, and I also am concerned about that roof," says Brown. "Not to be kind of gross here, but I'm concerned about (medical and mortuary disaster team) assets and their ability to respond to a catastrophe within a catastrophe."

And there, of course, is Mr. Bush, sitting in a dim conference room while on vacation in Texas, listening to all the pleas for immediate action on the telephone. With an emphatic hand gesture, Bush promises any and all help necessary. "I want to assure the folks at the state level that we are fully prepared to not only help you during the storm," says Bush, "but we will move in whatever resources and assets we have at our disposal after the storm." After the delivery of this promise, however, Bush goes mute. No questions, no comments, no concerns. As if to foreshadow what the people of New Orleans received from their leader, Mr. Bush finishes the conference by delivering a whole lot of nothing.

That's the video, 19 hours before the bomb struck New Orleans. It is gut-wrenching because everyone now knows what came next. The storm struck, the waters rolled in, and thousands were left to die. Days passed with no help reaching the city. Images of corpses left to rot in the streets were broadcast around the globe.

It is gut-wrenching, more than anything else, because of this: four days later, when questioned about his flaccid response to the catastrophe in Louisiana, Bush stated, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." Right. No one anticipated the breach of the levees except the Director of the National Hurricane Center, the Director of FEMA, and a half-dozen other experts who implored Mr. Bush to take this storm seriously a full day before the hammer dropped.

No one could have anticipated it? That has a familiar ring to it.

No one could have anticipated the failure of the levees.

No one could have anticipated the strength of the insurgency in Iraq.

No one could have anticipated that people would use airplanes as weapons against buildings.

No one could have anticipated these things...except all the people who did. We are forced to get into some very large numbers today to accurately assess the body count from all the things the Bush administration would have us believe no one could have anticipated.

No one could have anticipated the vigorous violence the Iraqi people would greet any invaders with, said the Bush administration, except a roomful of now-unemployed generals, a whole galaxy of military experts, several former weapons inspectors, more than a few now-silenced voices within the administration itself, and millions of average citizens who took to the streets to stop the impending disaster they easily anticipated. Add this to the "No One Could Have Anticipated" body count: nearly 2,300 American soldiers, thousands of Iraqi soldiers and police, and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.

No one could have anticipated that people would use airplanes as weapons against buildings, said the Bush administration. Really?

In 1993, a $150,000 study was undertaken by the Pentagon to investigate the possibility of airplanes being used as bombs. A draft document of this was circulated throughout the Pentagon, the Justice Department, and to the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In 1994, a disgruntled Federal Express employee invaded the cockpit of a DC10 with the intention of crashing it into a company building. Again in 1994, a pilot deliberately crashed a small airplane into the White House grounds, narrowly missing the building itself. Also in 1994, an Air France flight was hijacked by members of a terrorist organization called the Armed Islamic Group, who intended to crash the plane into the Eiffel Tower.

The 1993 Pentagon report was followed up in September 1999 by a report titled "The Sociology and Psychology of Terrorism." This report was prepared for the American intelligence community by the Federal Research Division, an adjunct of the Library of Congress. The report stated, "Suicide bombers belonging to Al Qaida's martyrdom battalion could crash-land an aircraft packed with high explosives into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the CIA, or the White House."

On August 6, 2001, George W. Bush received his Presidential Daily Briefing. The briefing described active plots to attack the United States by Osama bin Laden. The word "hijacking" appeared in that briefing. When he received this briefing, George W. Bush was in Texas for a month-long vacation. Again. He did nothing in response. Again.

For the love of God, even the fiction writers saw this coming. Tom Clancy's book "Debt of Honor," written in 1994, ends with a commercial aircraft being flown into the Capitol Building during a joint session of Congress, virtually wiping out the entire government. The famous Stephen King novella "The Running Man," written in 1982, ends in similar fashion. "Heeling over slightly," reads the ending of the King novella, "the Lockheed struck the Games building dead on, three quarters of the way up. Its tanks were still better than a quarter full. Its speed was slightly over five hundred miles an hour. The explosion was tremendous, lighting up the night like the wrath of God, and it rained fire twenty blocks away."

Add this to the "No One Could Have Anticipated" body count: more than 3,000 people killed in the Towers, the Pentagon and in a Pennsylvania field, in addition to thousands of Afghani civilians who found themselves collaterally damaged in our attack upon that nation.

Remember the Bush-Gore debate from what seems a thousand years ago? Bush was asked about the responsibilities of an executive in a time of emergency. He said in response, "I remember the floods that swept our state. I remember going down to Del Rio, Texas...that's the time when you're tested not only - it's the time to test your mettle, a time to test your heart when you see people whose lives have been turned upside down. It broke my heart to go to the flood scene in Del Rio where a fellow and his family got completely uprooted. The only thing I knew was to get aid as quickly as possible with state and federal help, and to put my arms around the man and his family and cry with them."

Thousands in Louisiana and the surrounding states. Thousands in New York, Washington, Pennsylvania and Afghanistan. Tens of thousands in Iraq. Is Mr. Bush crying with them, and their families, because no one could have anticipated this?

There is, perhaps, one aspect to all this that no one could have anticipated. No one could have anticipated that the United States of America would ever be governed by a man so callow, so unconnected, so uncaring, so detached, that tens of thousands of people would die during his time in office because he just didn't give a tinker's damn.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:56 AM
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1. No one could have anticipated that UAE control of the ports allowed a nuke
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 10:59 AM by BlueEyedSon
to slip in and destroy a major American city. Ooops!
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 02:44 AM
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44. A-HA! REPEAT THAT 10,000 TIMES. MOST POWER POINT OF WHOLE THREAD

CAN'T YOU JUST HEAR IT NOW:

NO ONE COULD HAVE ANTICIPATED OUR "GOOD FRIEND" - THE UAE - WOULD HAVE LET A NOOK-U-LAR
DEVICE SLIP THEOUGH OUR OWN FUCKING PORTS!!

I MEAN, WHO'D HAVE THUNK IT?

GAWRSH, I'M AWFULLY SORRY MY FELLOW 'MERICUNS.

I FEEL YOUR PAIN -- OH -- AND BY THE WAY --
BEFORE I FORGET - I'M DECLARING MARSHALL LAW

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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 08:38 AM
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46. You are too kind. But it is the pattern though, how can WE anticipate
EVERY fucking blowup?

Like many DUers I'm not a politician, policy wonk, economist, blah blah blahh.... but here at DU we PREDICTED the Iraq civil war, the medicare bill backlash, the deficit, etc, etc!!!!

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:42 PM
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55. You forgot that several DUers preddicted the Katrina
destruction of NOLA
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 05:28 PM
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56. Poll question: Where Will Katrina End Up.....I posted 8/25/05...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=3919915


....the Gulf of Mexico is boiling around 90 degrees along the coast.

~~~~~~~


....the few people who voted in this poll voted by what they'd heard from the NWS. x(

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 08:36 PM
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57. I've been rereading thsoe archives.
They are amazing. DUers should take over the country.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:20 AM
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50. FEMA outsourced disaster planning to IEM, Inc., and the busing
Edited on Fri Mar-03-06 11:21 AM by EVDebs
was outsourced to charter lines from far-away states like OH, KY, WI

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4682347

During and before 9-11 a Saudi software firm, Ptech, had access to FAA and other intell agency computers, with foreknowledge of wargame activity scheduled for Sept. 11, 2001.

Outsourcing, privatization, all offer loopholes for any sort of disaster to be made WORSE.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:57 AM
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2. Hey the guy put a suit on for crying out loud!
What do you want?

I heard the local news say that the WH said "This information has already been released" which is the MO-ignore it (MSM will too) and then when it is mentioned again claim that it has already been addressed.

It is incredible to watch but what you are seeing is a typical CEO type thing. W doesn't know what is going on day to day any more than you or I do (not much anyway) he just showed up and gave them a "Way to go boys" and was back reading about salt or whatever the hell it was that he supposedly read between bike rides.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:00 AM
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3. "...other priorities ...."
to borrow a quote from VP Cheney.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:01 AM
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4. Very good! One nitpick, however
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 11:02 AM by htuttle
It's "Tinker's dam", not 'damn', which refers to a backing piece of clay or dough used by a Tinker while repairing a hole in a pot. It was also known as a "Tinker's cuss".

I have Tinkers in my ancestry, so Tinker Lore is of interest to me.

Irrelevant nitpick delivered. Carry on.

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:55 AM
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22. Well I'll be damned
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:25 AM
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51. Picking even more nits.....
I think I remember John Ciardi researching that expression on one of his NPR "Word" segments, years ago (boy, do I miss those!)

I believe it was one of the few that he couldn't pin down. That "dam" and "damn" could both be backed up.

"Dam" as the worthless little bit of clay.

And "damn" as a worthless expression from one who hits his thumb with a hammer a million times a day (kind of a boy-crying-wolf thing).:shrug:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:03 AM
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5. No one could have anticipated
that one man could screw up so much in so little time.
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:29 AM
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16. good idea for a bumper sticker!
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:08 PM
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40. seriously
can we get some made?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 02:58 AM
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45. Except that some of us predicted PRECISELY that.
Edited on Fri Mar-03-06 02:59 AM by Beam Me Up
That SON OF A BUSH has been nothing but a walking disaster area his entire fucking life. If it weren't for the fact his dad is who HE is, the SON OF A BUSH would have overdosed on some recreational inebriant years ago. Instead a bunch of NeoNazi's decided to put him in the OVAL OFFICE to Pretend to be the President of the United States. FINALLY someone figured out how to PROFIT from this otherwise useless excuse for a human being.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 01:21 PM
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28. Thats right.
How in the world could we have known? Unless of course you saw what he did as Governor of Texas.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:00 PM
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39. Excuse me, but I did anticipate it.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:08 AM
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6. K&R baby.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:11 AM
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7. Also when George attended the G8 that summer
Was it in Rome? They had anti-aircraft batteries just in case anyone used planes as weapons. They had Bush sleeping on a Navy ship rather than a hotel for just that reason.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:14 AM
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8. How did this tape get out? Did Brown release it?
:shrug: It's damning.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:24 AM
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11. I think the AP did a public records request
I heard it took them six weeks to get it, which is not bad with this secretive government.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 01:49 AM
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43. Still, it was unexpected
It was released by the WH as a minor bit of trivia. UNLESS the party responsible is trying to "set the record straight", if you know what I mean.

And, BTW, there are more of these that HAVEN'T been released yet.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 12:26 PM
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52. Yes, it shows that the administration is crumbling from inside
The only reason the AP knew there was even a video in the first place, I'm willing to bet, was because they were tipped off by someone on the inside -- maybe even Brownie himself.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:25 AM
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13. FEMA put it out the same day it was made
but it sat on the shelves of news agencies. Apparently, AP did some digging and was the first to spot it for a scoop.

Maybe Brownie gave them a heads up!
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:18 AM
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9. Not one person died when Clinton lied about Monica
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 11:18 AM by LiberalEsto
and yet they impeached him for it.

The hypocritical double standards of the republicans and the Bush misadministration are so glaringly obvious, so blatant, and so disrespectful of the intelligence of the American people that I can hardly breathe when I think about it.

And yet nothing is done. We have a president who lies about huge things -- about the reasons for a deadly war, about the leaking of classified intelligence, about whether he was aware that New Orleans faced major death and destruction from breached levees.

He lies and lies and lies. And nothing is done about it. Not a word of censure. His partisan Congress continues to enable him. His bought-and-paid-for media continues to enable him.

When is he going to be called to answer for his lies?
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:22 AM
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10. It's dejavu all over again
Remember Condi Rice saying how nobody anticipated hijackers flying planes into buildings, even though a month before 9/11, there was a government report that said "Osama Bin Laden determined to strike within the United States"?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:28 AM
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15. Nobody seems to anticipate anything, do they?
When * was warned about potential hijackers flying planes into buildings, what did he do?

He went on vacation.

When * was warned that the New Orleans levees could be breached by the hurricane, what did he do?

He went on vacation.

This is the "crisis management" style of our so-called leader.

He is warned about pending disasters, ignores the warnings, and trots off on vacation, leaving his bands of partisan incompetents to mismanage the resulting messes.

And then he lies about knowing ahead of time.

The fact that he hasn't been impeached and booted out of office should be a mark of shame for Congress.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:47 AM
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18. What we need is for all this to continue coming out
For the MSM to tie-in Bush's preparation and reactionn to 9/11 and Katrina, as simply as you layed it out. The whole vacation part. And the average dumbass American needs to be continually reminded of it.

Then we need the election fraud to come out. And same thing. Keep talking about it, like they did with Clinton and Monica. And same with the UAE deal.

And if all that happens, we might be in store for a historic tidal wave of republicans becoming democrats.

Just like what happened in the 1960s during the civil rights movements, when thousands of southern democrats started voting republican because they couldn't stand the fact that their party wanted to integrate schools.

As an optimist, I'm hoping all this shit we've gone through is actually going to make our country better in the long-run. As a cynic, I know it's going to get worse before it starts to get better.

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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:51 AM
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20. What we need is a top-notch PR firm
to compile and package and present this information in a way that will get through the thick skulls of enough Americans.

Enough to launch and sustain an irreversible movement for impeachment.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:54 AM
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21. Good idea
We might be able to do it on DU. We have enough people with the appropriate communication skills here.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 12:07 PM
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24. I'd like to see newspaper and tv ads
that clearly say this:

"Bush lied about not knowing the levees would breach

Bush lied about the reasons for attacking Iraq.

Bush lied about not knowing that terrorists planned to hijack a plane and fly it into a building.

What else could he be lying about to the American people?

Former President Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about an affair with an intern. No lives were lost because of that lie.

Isn't it time someone did something about President Bush's lies?"

PS - anyone who wants to use this can do so. Feel free.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:01 PM
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35. But when he was warned that Terry Schiavo might die
he cut his vacation short, flew needlessly (he could have signed the bill in Texas) back to Washington for a photo op signing that hideous piece of political hypocrisy where he said he would "always err on the side of life." For some reason, freepers still think the guy is moral.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:24 AM
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12. article on the 2001 G-8


G8 summit may have been Bin Laden target

Rory Carroll in Rome, Jon Henley in Paris and Brian Whitaker
Thursday September 27, 2001
The Guardian

Two months before the attacks on New York and Washington, Osama bin Laden may have been contemplating an aerial attack against world leaders assembled in Genoa for a G8 summit.

Rumours that the terrorist suspect planned to pack an aircraft with explosives and launch it at the Ducal palace containing George Bush have been given weight by the president of Egypt, Hosni Mubarak.

He said Islamist suicide pilots were originally intended to launch an attack on the Italian riviera.

"On June 13 of this year, we learned of a communique from Bin Laden saying he wanted to assassinate Mr Bush and other G8 heads of state during their summit in Italy. It was a well-known piece of in formation," said President Mubarak.

On a state visit to Paris, the president told French media that Egypt's intelligence services had intercepted plans for "an aeroplane stuffed with explosives" to plunge into Genoa. A warning was passed to the US, he said.

When they installed a missile defence system at Genoa's airport in July and enforced a no-fly zone, the Italian authorities were derided, but now they feel vindicated.

***

"Many people joked about the Italian intelligence force. But actually, they had information that in Genoa there was the hypothesis of an attack on the American president with the use of an aeroplane. That is why we closed the airspace above Genoa and installed anti-aircraft missiles. Those who joked should now reflect," Mr Fini said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,558918,00.html
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:27 AM
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14. Nobody anticipated our country would torture,spy or sell our security
either.

But everyone knew for decades the levees in NO were a risk
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:30 AM
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17. On the note about the "suicide bombers" crash-landing an aircraft
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:48 AM
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19. Bush response: "could have done a better job of comforting people"
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 11:51 AM by fed-up
from the abc interview on Feb 28

http://mediamatters.org/items/200603010006
VARGAS: When you look back on those days immediately following when Katrina struck, what moment do you think was the moment that you realized that the government was failing, especially, the people of New Orleans?

BUSH: When I saw TV reporters interviewing people who were screaming for help. It looked -- the scenes looked chaotic and desperate, and I realized that our government was -
- could have done a better job of comforting people. The -- the chaotic scenes were very troubling. It was very unsettling for me to realize our fellow citizens were in near-panic, wondering where -- where -- where the help was.




How about saving lives not "comforting people". There were people dying left and right due to *'s failures...
* is a murdering SOB

I am so, so , so disgusted by this administration and our media...there are no words to describe the sadness and repulsion I feel for how our government purposely let these people die.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 12:27 PM
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53. COMFORTING people? The people would find it comforting if he
would, for once, just DO HIS FUCKING JOB!
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 12:07 PM
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23. Bush - pathological liar
"""Bush showed pathological lying habits and was in denial when challenged on his prejudices and biases. He would even deny saying something he just said 30 seconds ago. """" -
Yoshi Tsurumi, one of George W. Bush's professors at Harvard Business School

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/16/tsurumi/index_np.html

These guys think no one can call them on anything. And he surely doesn't believe he will have his day of reckoning, because he is racking up the sinning big time.
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RhodaGrits Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 12:21 PM
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25. I sent the video link to a hard core Bush-bot and he said that
they said they MIGHT be overtopped, but no one predicted they would be breached. He didn't see anything in the video to criticize the commander-in-chief for. I think they could use him in the WH spin room LOL Then he went on to say how it was the local government that failed yada yada...

So is this the Faux talking spin now?
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 12:48 PM
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27. That is the Reich wing spin from hardball yesterday.
The answer to that is, when someone is up to their eyeballs in water that came over the top, or when someone is up to their eyeballs in water that came through or underneath the levees, does it really matter? The person up to their eyeballs in water was left to die anyway.

Also, when levees are overtopped, they are weakened and will quite often come apart from underneath.

The Reich wink is grasping at empty air again.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 12:27 PM
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26. Link to final
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 01:30 PM
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29. What an excellent article!
Pointing out what's become their excuse for everything.... "No one could have anticipated" over and over again will hopefully wake up a few more thousand Americans to what's been going on in this constant blame shifting by these squatters in the White House. It's been staring those who still support these thugs in the face and yet they need it pointed out out to them over and over and over...until they understand it.

:toast:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 01:32 PM
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30. Thanks, Koko
:toast:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 01:38 PM
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31. Since it is now apparent that the WH and HS/FEMA both knew
that 1000's of people were going to the Superdome BEFORE the storm hit, then why didn't they do anything to help them for almost one whole week?

Even if they couldn't get their act together to bus the people out before the storm hit, which by Sunday evening the highways out of NO were clear, then why didn't they even bother to send enough MRI's and water for the people they knew were there? Brown is as bad as the rest because he knew and didn't even suggest doing anything to try to make a bad situation better, instead of worse.




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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 01:41 PM
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32. "No one could have anticipated the failure of the levees."
What a freaking joke. Of course Bush anticipated the failure of the levees. He sent a freaking barge to plow through one!
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 02:39 PM
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33. Really good read
You are just getting to the guts of the matter these days in your writing Will - I still think often about the "traped like a rat" line about dimwit after the King funeral - there was no better way to have described it - and I think you've hit the nail on the head again with this piece.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:05 PM
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34. Thanks!
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centristo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:07 PM
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36. no one could have anticipated
George W Bush would be such a "catastrophic failure" as President...

...except for all of those who did! Go Dems!!!

:dem:
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:43 PM
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37. So why is he still in office?
Why don't we give a tinker's damn?
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:53 PM
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38. The most damning plane-into-building example is under the rug.
On November 10, 1972, Southern Airways Flight 49 out of Birmingham was hijacked. The hijackers demanded $10 million or they were going to crash the DC-9 into the Oak Ridge nuclear facility in Tennessee. But things get much more interesting than that.

Back in 2004, when the President's AWOL record was being widely discussed, a former F-102 National Guard flyer showed up and started claiming that Georgie Boy was flying all the time.

It later emerged that the dude never actually served with Bush, in exactly the same way that almost none of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth had actually served with John Kerry.

But before the guy got reconciled to the dustbin of history, he told another story, one which quickly got swept under the rug.

The F-102 Pilot for Lies claimed that he was either scrambled or in the cockpit, with live weapons, with the mission of shooting Flight 49 down if it did threaten the nuclear plant. He was awaiting authorization from President Nixon.

As soon as the story came out, people started to ask, "where was George?" That was the last I ever heard of the guy, or the story. I remember looking into it and I couldn't tell if Our Future Fearless Leader was serving in Alabama, from whence the hijack initiated, or back in Texas, which was almost certainly put on alert as well.

The point being that even if AWOL was not supposed to be on call to face this threat, he certainly should have heard about it, because it had to be one of the very few times that a National Guard F-102 was nearly authorized to shoot at anything other than an 50% serviceability record.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 01:09 AM
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42. More on the F-102/nuke kamikaze story.
The name of the pilot in question is Colonel William Campenni. http://www.conservativetruth.org/article.php?id=2131">Here's his bullshit LTTE in the Moonie Times. The kamikaze story appeared in the Richmond Times-Dispatch on December 1, 2003, but it's no longer available online.

DailyKos was on the scene, though. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/2/12/143141/673

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:10 PM
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41. For the love of God....
K&R
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 10:00 AM
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47. Excellent - I will send this around n/t
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 10:19 AM
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48. Looks like my local cartoonist is channeling you


Rex Babin of the Sacramento Bee
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 10:24 AM
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49. Hartbreaking. No one could have anticipated the controlled media
being able to silence and disinform the population so well as to let this fascist cabal usurp all three Powers either, is what I wanted to add.

K&R.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 04:40 PM
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54. This cartoon, posted by a DUer last month, sums up his "rapid response"




All we'd have to do is change the image on the TV screen in the last frame.

(Thanks, RandiFan1290.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=455123



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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 08:46 PM
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58. No one unless you count DU'ers and people with a brain -
thanks Will I always enjoy reading your work, it really keeps things in perspective.

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