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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:43 PM
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Blair claims Iraq invasion was the will of God
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 07:50 PM by kenny blankenship
This astonishing claim appears in the SFgate today. Article posted by Edward M. Gomez.
British pols traditionally have the good sense not to mix religion and politics; normally they don't wear their religion ostentatiously in public like their American cousins. ("God save the Queen!" is more a ceremonial slogan than an invocation of divine intervention.) Now, though, Prime Minister Tony Blair, George W. Bush's obedient ally in the Iraq-war fiasco, has found religion - and his countrymen don't like what they're hearing.

In a British TV interview, Blair said of his controversial decision to send troops to Iraq: "If you have faith about these things, then you realize that judgment is made by other people. If you believe in God, it's made by God as well." (Independent)

In making these remarks to talk-show host Michael Parkinson (video clip), which made Blair sound a lot like his "born-again" pal, Bush, the prime minister dangerously crossed a line his former communications guru, Alastair Campbell, had counseled him to avoid. Campbell famously quipped: "We don't do God."
(snip)
Many Britons seemed to question the prime minister's sudden religious awakening. Alex Salmond, the head of the Scottish National Party, told colleagues that Blair "did not look divinely inspired but 'troubled, confused and with a great deal on his conscience.'" Salmond observed: "God was not the co-author of the war in Iraq - George W. Bush was the co-author."
Blair says God will judge him on Iraq. Britons balk

other links:
"Don't wait for God. We will judge you" at the Observer
"Blair: 'God will be my judge on Iraq'" at the Independent
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:45 PM
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1. Inasmuch as everything that happens on earth is "the will of God"
according to Christian tenants, he is correct. So is the consequence of the invasion the will of God.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:46 PM
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2. Rowson is here to clarify things


:evilgrin:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:49 PM
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4. That green thing looks
like tony, but hasn't he had only one wife.. cherie?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:09 PM
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11. One of his ministers separated from her husband over the weekend
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 08:11 PM by muriel_volestrangler
See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=191x15223 .

Briefly, he's a lawyer who moves Silvio Berlusconi's money around, and may get charged in Italy with taking a bribe to lie in court for him. There have been questions whether she knew about it (she signed joint mortgage applications that are involved), and suddenly on Saturday, with no sign it was going to happen, they announced they were separating. Some rumours say they have been advised to by Labour spin doctors, so that she doesn't get dragged down with him; and they'll get back together if he gets off the Italian charges.

Others, however, say she's pissed off at the way he's often used her name and job to get business deals. Given the fuss over Dubai and US ports, I think there's a bit of irony here:

Already the world of international finance is closing down to him. In November the Dubai authorities rejected an application he had made for a licence to practice there. The request was rejected on the grounds he had replied “no” when asked if he had ever been the subject of an official investigation.

“Your answer to this question was not true,” the letter of rejection said. “You have a duty to provide full, true and plain answers . . . as a lawyer you must be aware of this.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,200-2058985,00.html


The separation came after it was disclosed in a leaked letter that her husband told regulators in Dubai that he had the "sympathy" of Tony Blair.

Mr Mills said: "You will also know that I am married to a member of the Cabinet of this country ... but I have the support and sympathy of very many people in public life, from the Prime Minister down."

One close friend said of the minister: "She has been very emotional. Things like the Dubai letter clearly put Tessa in an embarrassing position."

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article349336.ece


So the Dubai authorities turned him down, and when he said "but I'm married to a cabinet minister, and a friend of Tony Blair!", they replied "we don't care, you lied to us".
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teamster633 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:48 PM
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3. "God was not the co-author of the war in Iraq -
George W. Bush was the co-author."


An understandable mistake. It's so easy to confuse the two...:sarcasm:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:49 PM
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5. Anyone else sick of world leaders hearing "voices"??????
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:51 PM
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7. world leaders?! a confederacy of dunces and psychopaths
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:52 PM
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8. Tiny seems to be hearing one now
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 07:55 PM by kenny blankenship

Note the gleam in the eyes and the manic smile. Certifiably toys in the attic.
(That's Mr. We-don't-do-God the former communications aide, sitting on Tiny's right, camera left)
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:50 PM
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6. poor God & Jesus-imbeciles & crooks always lay it on them!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:58 PM
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9. Well, he's clearly insane.
Right, he didn't do it, Chimp didn't do it, God did it. These people are flat out crazy. The invisible man in the sky is responsible? And this is the leader of England?

I just don't know what to say anymore. He should be removed from office and sent to a sanitarium.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:04 PM
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10. that's his way of saying no temporal (secular) court will judge him
so I guess Blair and Bush were both just following orders.


ho hum...let's move along...the almighty did it.









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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:19 PM
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12. God must hate Great Britain and the US.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:27 PM
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13. That POS also said "let history be our judge"
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 08:29 PM by Mandate My Ass
which is just another way of saying "get out of my way so I can commit my war crimes without justification or consequences for my criminal decisions."


The other day God told me I should be Queen of the Universe and all humanity should bow to my whims and shower me with more riches than I could ever spend in 1,000 lifetimes while they do without the basic necessities of life. Funny how God and me see things through the same subjective lens of my own personal self interest. :eyes:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:28 PM
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14. So he forgot about the Downing Street Minutes memo's huh?
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:29 PM
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15. Yes, GOD loves murder and mayhem.
:sarcasm:
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:33 PM
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16. What a terrible thing to use GOD name for.
Totally bankrupt of justification hence now depend on faith.
What else would we all see next.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:36 PM
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17. Freaking megalomaniac.
One (very small) good thing about this new world order, it gives the freaks the freedom to come out of their closets.
Now we know who Tony Blair truly is, and he ain't pretty.
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Greenbeard Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:46 PM
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18. Whatever happened to personal responsibilty
I can't say that I really disagree with Blair I just don't think he understands what he is saying.

What these "hyprocritics" fail to realize is that if they truly believe what they say then they would have to understand that everything that has ever happened or will ever happen is the will of god. That includes the deaths of all our own citizens on 911 and the deaths of all our good men and women presently occuring in Iraq. If this "long war" were we are embarking upon is god's will then perhaps they should read that good old book a little closer.

I remember a certain reference to Babylon in one chapter.

I also seem to remember a few references to being held accountable for your actions and treating others as you would wish yourself to be treated.

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