Stereotypes of Liberals

I don't go to the Freeper sites so I guess I miss all the "good stuff", but it seems like their notion of a liberal is that of someone who doesn't work and doesn't want to work and thinks the government should take care of them. Usually there is at least a grain of truth in stereotypes but this one just baffles me. In my experience the more politically liberal someone is the more likely it is that they work and that they also volunteer their time and energy in the service of making the lives of other people better. :shrug:

:tinfoilhat: proud of it

I guess the "libruls" who founded America were lazy moonbats as well.

WTF?!?!?!

They like to point to him a lot but as he stayed in his presidency he got more left.

and the emergence of Limbaugh flailing away with the talking points....

Either we're lazy or we're deviously busy.

Well, I gotta run. I've got to drive some teen girls to the abortion clinic, then swing by the adult store for some porn. Then it's off to smoke pot while I watch re-runs of The West Wing.

Its "try a different sexual orientation" night and they're sacrificing a teen virgin of each gender.

Being liberal is fun, I tell you!

You know where they plot to abolish all religion. Today it's the word Christmas tomorrow outlawing every church.

I guess I should tell my preacher that I'm attending a meeting to over take him and to take over the church with my "liberal agenda." }(

government check? You'll probably want to harass a few Christians while you're out, too.

Sticks and stones and all that...

I'm a liberal american patriot
and these fascist fundie freeps
can kiss red white and blue ass !

Why then are blue states generally economically better off than red ones?

A few things that might help you understand this better.

1. Working in acedemia is not work (unless you are a conservative)

2. Working for the government (local, state or national) is not work (unless you are a conservative).

3. Working for a non profit organization is not work (unless you . . .well you get the idea at this point).

4. Attending a rally or protest, even on Saturday or in the evening, indicates that you are not working, because if you were working you wouldn't have time for such things.

5. It goes without saying that any time spent laboring that you are not getting paid for doesn't count as work (unless it's at a Christian Charity).

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It only counts if it's at CHURCH. Charities that are outside the church don't count. That's just liberal nonsense. You can't help people outside a church and count that as work!
The Professor

Demanding a fair wage from an employer is the same as begging for welfare. Happily getting shafted in the workplace is the sign of a good working class conservative.

I got that once... the guy next to me and I both yelled back at the same time... It's SATURDAY - we have weekday jobs! Pissed the freeper off as he was heading back into his lowpaying retail Saturday job. :)

it's hard work!

Because we all know liberals of color don't work, PERIOD....


:sarcasm:

Whenever there have donation drives at my company, be it post-9/11, tsunami relief, or Katrina, guess who doesn't hesitate to open the wallet and guess who refuses? Yep. The more rabid conservatives, the very same ones who insist that private entities are so much better at handling social needs don't want to live up to their credo. They'll usually add insult to injury by making some comment as to why the victims don't deserve charity because, such as in the case of Katrina, "the government's going to take care of them anyway." Bastards! :grr:

I like to suggest to the freeperish military retirees at work that they voluntarily give up their pensions and other military benefits. 'Cause they're just a commie social program devised by liberals, y'know. Why should you get to suck off the gubmint teat for 50 years because you USED to serve your country? What good are you now? Needless to say, this doesn't go over too well with them. :evilgrin:

When Katrina hit I encouraged people on the baseball message board I post at to
donate money to help. One RW pr*ck said they don't need our help because the insurance
companies will rebuild their homes. It just took my breath away. It will take years to rebuild.
What about the immediate needs for shelter, food, clothing?! He had the nerve to call anyone
who donated a chump! Burns me up just thinking about it.:grr:

Right after Katrina my church raised around $5,000 that first week. But don't you know all those Katrina victims are buying fancy purses? :eyes:

Psst... I've even heard that some DUers are (gasp) white, clean-cut heterosexuals with good jobs!


Some even own their own businesses!!!

I can't speak for anybody else, but in my post-college life, I've never been unemployed longer than a couple of weeks, have never been on disability, and have never filed a lawsuit, frivolous or otherwise.

The fact that I think down-on-their luck folks deserve a leg up does not make me ( or them) a bum.

They all think my husband and I are conservative Reps because he is well educated and
makes a ton of money and I'm a homemaker and we're both Christians. They'll start spewing RW hate and I'll just shake my head and tell them how wrong they are. The look on their face is priceless because
I'm shooting down all their misperceptions of a liberal Dem!

Right Winger I can think of. Liberals also have the convictions to back up their beliefs with ACTION.

....among the millions of disadvantaged is exactly where those who work the system for "free" benefits will hide... the low end of the spectrum. Democrats will work to make sure that no one will go without the basics...At the other end of the scales are the Ken Lays and Dennis Kozlowskis who also work the system on the Republican side knowing that Republicans will work to make sure ALMOST no one is punished for acting rapaciously....so we really do have our (few) "welfare Cadillacs" types, a small percentage of lazy slackers and many deserving folk...whereas they have multi-billion dollar scams,and,$6000 shower curtains, a fair percentage involved in "tax shelters" and tons of scared folk who think (often erroneously) they are middle class... But Qui Bono? in society overall??? Is it better that some scam a subsistence from the government or that some receive the deluxe package by lying and cheating???

I'm going to college for nothing eh? Since I'm not going to work and all I'm just wasting his money.

It seems like some posts are judging others who would be on the same side of the political spectrum, but who do not live up to the authors' personal economic or academic requirements for being a useful human being. Maybe I'm just being too sensitive (I am a liberal, after all), but does anyone else notice a trend toward the alternate stereotype - that of the elitist liberal - in some of these posts?

It seems that for many people being a liberal is chiefly a matter of one's socioeconomic status, educational attainment, dress, place of residence, cultural and culinary likes and dislikes, preferred forms of entertainment, etc.

Maybe I'm just old-fashioned and need to get with the program, but I still think politics has mainly to do with that old business about the haves and the have-nots.

I just think that we liberals are able to poke a little fun at ourselves,
unlike the Reps.
They have NO sense of humor about anything.

They hear it everyday on Faux news, hate radio and newspapers owned by Murdoch.

I used to try and educate the uneducated, about this stuff . In my area most of the Liberals are blue collar , hard working , salt of the earth types that wear work uniforms or coveralls and Rocky work boots . In your area they may be something totally different like Birkenstock wearers and shit. They are as diverse as any large group would be.

and I became friendly with some Republican small business owners in my neighborhood. At first I didn't realize that they listened to Rush when customers weren't in the shop. Anyway, they were well aware of how desperate I was to find a job, and what a hard time I was having without health insurance.

Around the time of the election I got the following talking points thrown at me: 1) everyone has health care in this country; all they have to do is go to an emergency room; and 2) anyone who really wants to work can find work. I challenged both points on the basis of my experience- which they certainly knew about- but somehow it didn't influence the indoctrination they gotten had from Limbaugh.

Interesting that small business owners would identify so readily with corporation interests.

They also told me that George Bush was a patriot and John Kerry was a traitor.

I gave up trying to be friends with them.

The reichbot hears that liberals want to help unemployed people get good jobs and thinks that liberals must be unemployed.
The reichbot hears that liberals want to help people of color get equal rights and thinks that liberals must be people of color.
The reichbot hears that liberals want to protect a woman's right to choose and thinks that liberals must be women getting abortions.
The reichbot hears that liberals want to ensure that elderly are guaranteed medical care and thinks that liberals must be old, sick people.

You see, a reichbot can't think in terms of supporting rights for others ... and therefore thinks that liberals only advocate support for themselves.

A reichbot, on the other hand, proclaims loudly that people with large incomes shouldn't have to pay higher rates ... and thinks others will regard him as someone who has a high income.
They take up the 'cause' of the privileged so the other drunks at the local long neck barf and brew will think they're a big man on campus.
They figure if they make noises like they're successful then the other pond scum will think so too.
A lot of it is knowing, deep down, that the rich and powerful are targeting the liberals ... and their cowardice makes them yell "Not me! Shoot those other guys!"

:thumbsup:

... I think it's almost axiomatic that people who think everyone's out for themselves are usually out for themselves.

A long time ago, someone described it to me as "the politics of scarcity" vs. "the politics of abundance."
That's made sense to me ever since. :shrug:

and it doesn't rub off!

There's something about a traumatic adolescence and the deep-seated need to 'prove' one's own self-sufficiency and autonomy that leads to a kind of codependency and fear that borders on (or exceeds) the sociopathic.

My "families of origin" are populated with some real basket cases. (Part of why I'm a proud 'Nut.') I've had my fill of the anti-union, bigoted reichbots who strut and posture as though they 'share the perspectives' of the rich and powerful. It's an almost slavish dependency on bossism and privilege. All they seem to get is the empty grunt and snort approval of other vacuous longnecksuckers. My own father was a lot like that.

I have a 2nd cousin for whom "when you're as rich as him" is the baseline authorization for the validity of any opinion or legitimacy of any viewpoint. Wealth and power are, for him, the unarguable PROOF of rightness. It's really sad. To enslave one's own mind and conscience is the worst kind of slavery, imho.

with my Welfare and Aid to Dependent Children check, but my lazy stripper daughter was busy having pre-marital sex with everyone in the unemployment line. Then I couldn't get my bicycle tire fixed, because I wasted my SSI check on lottery tickets. Thankfully, I had enough time to run to the store for some goat cheese and organic vegetables. I was going to put on my tie-dyed shirt and take my guitar to hang out in front of Wal-mart singing "My Sweet Lord" and blowing some good "sensi", and then run home so I could catch the special on Peruvian Shit Sculptures on PBS.

I meant to do all that, but since I'm proudly wearing the uniform of the United States Navy and serving my country...I just didn't have time.

and is surficially a take of the hippie movement. Which were people in their twenties who rarely got/took those jobs the classists admire respect (brokers/dealers, speculators/profiteering positions, corporate lackeydom) and were too young to be the professionals a lot of them became. A lot were people who were messed up by their conservative abusive upbringings or got (further) messed up by drugs, too, unfortunately.

The Right blended these with its stereotypes of union people, black people, and Indians/Latinos (lazy and hating of their white Betters) and Jews (unwilling to do 'honest' work, i.e. become plantation owners or steal straight from public lands/Indians or gouge poor Americans or become trusting lackeys of the Christian Right-affiliated overlord classes).

You have to understand it as an inversion of the Right's selfimage and sense of their own purpose, not as a deeply meaningful understanding in its own right. The Right has a need to justify and believe that its plundering of the wealth of the land and the preexisting British-derived colonial overlord system, the sustaining of a feudal caste system (subdivided by class, race, religion/ethnicity, gender) and the implicit obligation of the lower castes to serve the upper castes, is the One True Order of American society.

The Civil Rights movement and the Warren Supreme Court began to fundamentally change this arrangement of society, which Roosevelt had begun to loosen up, in the Fifties. The intensification of the Cold War in the Sixties provided a rationale for resisting or partly reversing these changes and reintensifying the caste system (and the exploitation it exists to provide) in the name of surviving or winning.

After the Soviet Union faded the Right's rationale was sustained by a need to fight down the ever fewer and smaller residual Stalinist powers ('rogue states', the 'Axis of Evil'), and now it has degenerated to the hokey War On Terror, where a few hundred Arab men who want the U.S. to clean up after itself in the Middle East are the new Chiricahua Apaches to the residual paranoid/supremacist/suppressed guilt-riven white American Settlement psyche toward the world.

There is amusing hypocrisy. Cindy Sheehan is their idea of the liberal who protests and isn't doing useful work. Tom DeLay, on the other hand, is an immensely hardworking individual who merely goes on a lot of junkets and gets his wife paid a worthy $65 k a year for three years to determine precisely all the Republican Congressfolks' favorite charities.

According to the rightwingers I hear liberals are ...

Lazy, Black, wealthy, college educated elitists living in trailer parks in all-White, gated communities full of public housing units who are on welfare because we refuse to get a job while teaching at ivory tower universities.

For 15 years ever since the reign of Poppy, the previous scion of wealth and privilege and the captains of industry, they've been told to get Connected and Under Control, so that they can be Confident, Firm, have Resolve, and Trust in their Leaders. Strength, or rather fear of weakness is their new church (and Jesus has been transformed from a meek redeemer into a warrior who was 12 feet tall and wants you to succeed and be rich) and they pray there daily. They don't understand all that homersexshell stuff, and find that being sturdy houndlike mouthers of received dogma and reaffirming cultural traditions end to end rather than selectively and consciously is a reassuring comfort against the confusing indeterminacies of a world in which the old givens, like what it means to be a man or a woman (along with other old givens like honesty, objectivity, rational thought and enlightened government and society) are hard to find. You could think of it as a cult with a mass of brainwashed adherents.

Their enemy ultimately is the same as ours, the proponents of the Old World Order (Odor ? Ordure ?) who are currently doing its bidding in the highest offices of our government. The goal there is to preserve and advance the status quo of socioeconomic power which guarantees that wealth flows up to those who already have it, with influence following immediately behind. They are the explicit enemies of the Enlightenment values on which this country was founded, in a way which is indistinguishable from ideological fanatics in other countries, like Al Qaeda. Both oppose an egalitarian humanist society in which inherent rights are more important than material power.