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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:54 PM
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What Banning Abortion Means: An Explosion of Children in Foster Care
Just like abstinence until marriage has lead to skyrocketing divorce rates, outlawing abortion will lead an explosion of children in foster care. These same legislators will then become the de-facto parents for these children which will make their states poorer and poorer.

Moreover, these states will lose independent, smart women who won't want to live in state wherein they're treated like their husband's chattle. They will leave and take their potential high incomes with them. This will also make these states poorer.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:58 PM
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1. Call me crazy but I think they'll look the other way when black babies
are involved.

SECOND...I've decided thta I'm adopting a child. I decided before all this but I think there ought to be some requirement that the government provides EXTENSIVE tax breaks for those who adopt.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:01 PM
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6. And they will scream about all of the black babies and unwed
mothers...not taking into account the other unwed mothers.....

I think certain states provide tax breask for those who adopt!!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:12 PM
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11. SD should provide TAX FREE status for all Foster Homes and homes
with adopted children both domestic and international kids.

We effed up the world and we need to help put the future back together by providing for the children.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:40 PM
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17. See my post #16. n/t
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:59 PM
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2. And yet Ohio's proposed law will reduce the no. of available foster homes
Yep, they not only want to ban gay folks from adopting, but from being foster parents as well.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:59 PM
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3. Yes, you are absolutely right and the foster care system...
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 04:00 PM by MadMaddie
is continually being cut as we speak....

The Neocons will not adopt these kids...

They don't care about the independent smart women and the income potential for the state. They want to rule a womens body by any means....

I hope Progessive families move out of these states, I hope independent women move out of these states....
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:00 PM
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4. and skyrocketing child abuse and neglect.
Increased need for schools and daycares. Increased need for assistance - more women and children living in poverty. Unwanted children tend to be abused children. Abused children tend to grow up have more learning disabilities, more likely to drop out of school, more likely to break the law, more likely to engage in risk-taking behaviour (drugs, drinking, sex. . .)
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:00 PM
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5. It means a few other things. Like dead women.
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 04:01 PM by BlueIris
And lots of women who are horribly mutilated, have ruined health, and are no longer considered "useful" as the breeders or sex objects their Patriarchal masters view them as. But screw that meaningless triviality! We at DU care about the children!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:05 PM
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8. BlueIris there is always that.....
no one forgets that womens lives and health are in danger because of these draconian laws....

First and foremost we have to give women the choice to privacy and to manage their own bodies and that includes safe on demand abortions.


In the meantime we have to try to save the unwanted children that are going to come out of this debacle.

No we will never forget the women.....
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:02 PM
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7. Breeding ground for criminals, too
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:06 PM
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9. I know I'm going to get flamed for this one, but....
I suggest the Dems push VERY HARD to promote Sex Ed! I don't really GAS if the same people who condemn abortions don't approve of contraception! It really IS much easier, cheaper, healthier, and better for EVERYONE for any female of an age to reproduce to take a pill or wear a patch! If people can't afford them, they SHOULD be paid for under Medicaid!

I can't imagine ANY woman wanting to have an abortion! If she doesn't want a baby, I'm positive she would much rather just never get pregnant!

I didn't take the class, but my BIL took a class in college called "108 Methods of Birth Control". I remember thinking it was pretty funny at the time! I can't even imagine THAT many!

To say foster care, or abandoned babies are going to be the result of this rush to abolish abortions is just foolish! STOP the pregnancies before they occur!
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:15 PM
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12. The thing is that the people who want to criminalize
abortion also want to outlaw contraception. No matter how they try to spin it to try to make outlawing abortion more palatable.



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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:22 PM
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15. But with promoting education and contraception we take away
their argument that "you're killing an innocent human being".

Contraceptives prevent the egg from ever implanting, so there CAN'T be any Human Being!

I know they'd still fight it, but we've knocked a whole lot of pins out from under their argument!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:41 PM
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18. But the fundies & Repubs are agianst Plan B which is a contraceptive. n/t
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:12 PM
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10. They'll also be finding a lot more babies
in dumpsters and trash bins.

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Taguba Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:16 PM
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13. They will fight to the death for a zygote until it passes the birth canal,
Then its "you're on your own you lazy, uneducated, entitlement loving bastards". These GOP pukes are clearly in it for votes. they have no conviction in their position.
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:20 PM
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14. Does anyone remember Romania...
... and their orphanges? Ceacescu(sp) outlawed abortion & contraceptives also. How long will it be before chinese couples come to the US to adopt "poor little white babies"?




AValdoux
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:39 PM
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16. In the rich, white county where I work, many foster kids can't find homes
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 04:46 PM by CottonBear
because the kids are from poor or minority families or from families with drug problems.

The county was a rural agricultural county and has turned into an uppermiddle class bedroom community with one of the top income levels in GA. The working poor, farmers, elderly and old time people from the county are being squeezed by development and high taxes. And, of course, none of the new rich white Republican citizens want to be foster parents.

Edit: The local RW weekly rag had recent news story about the need for foster parents but, of course, no mention of the reasons why there were not enough foster families.
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