Know your BFEE: Moussaoui Must Die for Bush and 'His' Government

George Bush and what passes for the United States Government say Zaccarias Moussaoui must die.

His crime? Moussaoui could have prevented 9-11, if he wanted.

Who knows? Maybe.



There is one thing we DO know about Moussaoui. We’ll never know the so-called 20th hijacker’s story if he’s dead. And that is why Bush and company are so eager to see that he gets that way, ASAFP.

Here’s something we can deduce from the available evidence:

The facts of the matter indicate it wasn’t Moussaoui, it was George Bush, the FBI and “his” government who could have prevented 9-11. And they failed.

Consider the FBI didn’t want anything to do with arresting Moussaoui BEFORE 9-11. It took repeated phone calls from Democratic U.S. Congressmen James Oberstar and Martin Sabo to FBI HQ in Washington to even investigate the guy.



Then, the same FBI didn’t want to look into his laptop computer. If they had only gotten a FISA warrant, they would’ve seen all his links to terrorists and terrorist organizations, found that Moussaoui had illegally copied a 747 operator’s manual, and all his connections to Al Qaeda.





Who knows? Bush’s team might’ve connected some of those dots and seen what was going on and gotten up and done something to warn the airlines, flying public, and the rest of the innocent people who died that day. You know something fishy was going on when Ashcroft stopped flying commercial that July. Of course, he didn't share his reasons with the press or the flying public.



The bottom line is this. Bush and his cronies in the FBI and whatever other agencies had no interest in learning the truth about Moussaoui. Otherwise, they would have gotten the FISA and found what was on the laptop.



Even if the legal grounds were shaky, breaking the law never stopped the Bush Gang before or since. Ask James R Bath. And so, Moussaoui must die. For Bush and the Empire

Moussaoui is doomed because of the blivet.

Whether a patsy, dupe or monster, Moussaoui is still a living witness to what happened.

And that's why he is so dangerous to the BFEE.



Thanks for giving a damn, babylonsister. This show trial shows how dirty the Bush Gang really is.

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This was written before we knew about the NSA domestic spying.

How far things have gone since then. Downhill.



Thanks for giving a damn, ClaraT. The Bush Crime Family are traitors, at best.

I have no sympathy for this individual who has (according to reports)
expressed his delight in the deaths of people who died on 9-11. And
has repeatedly expressed hatred and violent wishes towards us.

My 'liberal' side tends to want to spare his life as an example
to the muslim and arab worlds of civilized justice...since he did
not, apparently, kill anyone.

My pragmatic side tells me that such a gesture would, in some quarters,
merely be seen as weakness.

I also think there could be value in preserving his life to further
obtain information from this indiviual who might let slip something
that would help save lives in the future. (However this does seem like
a longshot and grasping at straws to find a reason to spare his life)

Finally, I am glad that I am not on the jury that will have to decide.

that doesn't matter any longer. Justice? What happened to that in the U.S.?

Terror Inc. and it's American Branch, the GOP of Karl Rove and Grover Norquist.



Traitors and warmongers and psychopaths. And that's being nice about them.

...who also warned Washington HQ that possible terrorists were getting instruction at U.S. flight schools.



I have no sympathy for terrorists, mass murderers or warmongers, as well.

BTW: A hearty welcome to DU, masatty99.

world related to 9-11 has fallen through due to lack of evidence because they can't dig too deep because the trail always starts to lead back to our government. I suspect he was probably a stooge who was set up by our government the same way any of the other ALLEGED terrorists were. If any of them were actually on the planes, they probably didn't even know why they boarded that day. What the hell is Dov Zakheim doing these days?

If he was tried for what he was guilty of -- being an accessory -- my pragmatic side tells me that such a gesture would, in some quarters, merely be seen as justice.

1. Scapegoat for * and his regime for "War on Terror", and

2. Fulfillment of American public's traditional bent toward bloodlust. Public executions give the public an illusion of justice like God and a lightning bolt.

Well said, ho_hypocrisy.

Here's a nice overview for those not familiar with the subject, vis a vis, why Moussaoui couldn't really defend himself and Bush's "government" wouldn't allow it:



Thanks for giving a damn, no_hypocrisy. There may yet be light on all this.

Gee. What could George be afraid of?



Thanks for giving a damn, tasteblind. The Truth has the BFEE on the run.

FBI agents have been forced to admit under cross-examination that
the FBI knew years before Sept. 11 that al-Qaida had plans to use
planes as missiles to destroy prominent buildings.

The blow-by-blow recitation Tuesday by prosecutor David Raskin of the
hijackings _ a stipulation of facts agreed to by both sides _ did
nothing to link Moussaoui to the plot, but nonetheless provided an emotional wallop.

FBI also had to acknowledge numerous missed opportunities in the months before Sept. 11
to catch two of the hijackers with terror links known to the government, even though the
pair frequently used their own names in this country to rent cars, purchase
plane tickets and even, once, to file a police report after getting mugged.

http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=1169458&tw=wn_wire_story

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2150812

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2146415

He may not be an arch-villain in the mold of say, Dick Cheney, but Moussaoui does seem to get "it."

"If they have such a strong case why I am stop in court to say my story about FBI cover up Why No Journalist is allow to visit me to hear my story Why did they gag me and stop Bro Freeman to visit me."



Thanks for all the great info, there, sattahipdeep! Much obliged. Thanks also for giving a damn.

The Fbi members who suppressed the evidence both in MN and AZ were promoted for their heckuva jobs.
I'll have to get back to this topic.
Kick and Recommended in the meantime.

He should not be given the satisfaction of execution therefore depriving him of the opportunity to mingle with lots of virgins in the after-life. BTW, I wonder how many virgins are actually left in heaven with all of these suicide bombings.

For all the suicides and make believe suicides. I am suspect at nearly all supposed terrorist acts. It always seems that the chaos helps the bushies perpetual war. And with Negroponte in the picture, who the heck knows?

This would make really important reality TV:



Thanks for remembering, DemonFighterLives. Thanks for giving a damn, too.

From my observation point in MN, Moussaoui looked suspicious of something, but with the BFEE in charge, he looked like a bungler.

As with Brownie who looked better in the Katrina video and Abramoff (Buff Guy) calling dubby a liar or forgetful, it appears that some of the ones we choose to hate were really just guys who got ensnarled in the octopus. Moussaoui could have a good story to tell, but all we have been handed so far is the administration hogwash. Planes took the buildings down??? Al Quaeda did it all and got on those planes by slipping "security"??? Seems when normal people wanted answers to the foreigners training to fly planes, they got shut down. Total plan was much higher than Ossie and the 20 patsies IMHO.

Colleen Rowley is running for congress. A little more subdued than before, but her suspicions of the "gang" are well founded.
http://www.coleenrowley.com/index.php

Snip...

Our children and grandchildren's future is at risk because of the culture of corruption and cronyism in our government. My granddaughter Olivia was born already owing the Bush/DeLay 'birth tax' of $36,000 - each child born in 2005 is charged with an obligation to pay off the deficit.
This widespread abuse of power by the GOP establishment is nothing new. And my opponent John Kline enables these transgressions to continue by voting in almost total lockstep with the Republican establishment.



Great lady-- I don't know if this was posted yet?

From more special people, IATBW:





Thanks for helping peg the truth on these, um, people.

,...

It's a damn shame I would hold such suspicions but, after everything I've read and witnessed, I can not help myself.

From Counterpunch:



Thanks for giving a damn, Just Me. People like you make this a world worth living in.

That's a most important question:

Why did the guy who received warnings from Phoenix about possible terrorists learning how to fly passenger jets and who received warnings and a FISA request from Minneapolis (Rowley), stonewall the investigation?

Likely answer: He was covering some higher-ups behind. And for that, Frasca got promoted.



Hey, DU! Remember Bush's Reichstagfeuer?

:kick:

Yo, RBHam! I'm not Cockburn's biggest fan, but what the guy's unearthed makes my stomach turn and my teeth grind.



So. Was "Al Qaeda working for Poppy's Secret CIA Team?

It seems they've done all they could to advance their agenda of world domination, as in "I'm the cowboy. You're the dead Indian."

They'll assassinate libruls, conservatives and anybody else who'll help them and their cause.

Thanks for the kick to the pants of the BFEE, RBHam. Thanks for giving a damn, DU Friend!

Tell me the FBI didn't know what was going on.



So much corruption.

So little time.

From today's FBI testiphony:



So why didn't headquarters authorize a FISA warrant to search his laptop?

FISA never stopped BushCo before or since.

...as well as David Frasca and Michael Maltbie, a good reminder from the good folks at cooperative research.com:





Consider the source, heh heh heh.

of the Moussaoui investigation. He also hindered the fact gathering efforts of other FBI agents.

This character, "Spike" Bowman needs to be put under the microscope.

Excellent point, oasis. The fellah got a quarter of his annual sinecure for keeping his wug shut.

Let's flush these turds through the toily. A start...

FBI Radical Fundamentalist Unit muffed 9-11 but advanced several careers.

Here's a nice resource from a 9-11 Summer of Truth conference in NY in September 2004, with the names of suspected bad guys and more than a few good guys:



Gee. It’s another of those “Brownie, you’re doin’ a heckuva job” moments in Reich history.

What the real Republican Grassley thought about the promotion:



I disagree with Grassley’s observation of Bowman’s patriotism.

Bowman’s are the actions of a traitor.

Knowledge is power...

Knowledge IS power.

And power is everybody's business.



...in a democracy, that is.

Thanks for giving a damn, ngGale! Truly appreciate you and Francis Bacon.

that Moussaoui must die because he had news prior to 9/11 and could have prevented it, my jaw dropped and very naughty words spewed forth from my pretty mouth toward my tv.

If that were the case, then anyone w/pre-knowledge of 9/11 that din't forewarn should also be condemned to die.

That's a HELL of a lot of people. Many of those people work for our Federal government.

Btw, how many other countries tried to warn us?

There's no shortage of reasons Bush should not have sat on his hands when Andy Card told him "America is under attack."





So. Why did Bush go into freeze mode?

:kick:

So, why doesn't anybody in Corporate McPravda ever mention what Bush said?

Light, from angela's blog



Vielen dank, schoene Fraulein.

'Dreamy, there's no one like you.



And that's why this is such a great universe.



So, whaddayaknow?

at this moment.

Strange coincidence.

And from the James Brown Songbook:





Hell will lurk in ambush
to receive home the arrogant,
who will linger there for ages.
They will taste nothing cool in it nor any drink
except hot bathwater and slops,
a fitting compensation
since they have never expected any reckoning
and have wittingly rejected Our signs.
Everything We have calculated in writing.
"So taste! Yet We shall only increase torment for you!"


4. Islam. Qur'an 78.21-30

BUDDY BUDDY
http://www.gsnmagazine.com.nyud.net:8090/images/aug_05/atta.jpg
DO THE MATH

24 MINUTES

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER WATCH THIS VIDEO

http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678


DIA Agents were ordered to put yellow Post-its over Atta's face and the face's of 3 other 9/11 terrorists

"We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn't exist," the intelligence officer told GSN."

Intel agents Michael Shaffer and Scott Philpott have confirmed Rep. Weldon's claims that a chart with Atta's face, soon the photos of 3 other members of the 9-11 terror team, were known to DIA team Able Danger by early 2000.

This diary will show that Pete Schoomaker and Philip Zelikow are two of the main Perpetraitors in this scandal, that they deliberately withheld information from the President of the United States that would have prevented 9/11, that they and their neo-con rulers Let It Happen On Purpose.

Of this there can no longer be any doubt.



MUST READ - RE: ABLE DANGER INFO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4447706

Hopsicker: Able Danger Intel Exposed "Protected" Heroin Trafficking
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x149481


Able Danger: Short Time-line
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4441903

Was Able Danger Shut Down After It Detected Condi-PRC Spy Ring?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4494524



Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
Thursday, August 25, 2005


Able Danger (search) is the code name for a military-intelligence unit that apparently learned a year before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that lead hijacker Mohamed Atta (search) and other terrorists were already in the United States.

One of the central Able Danger claims — that military lawyers blocked the sharing of the Atta information from the FBI in the late summer and early fall of 2000 — will be a focus of the committee's if a hearing takes place, FOX News has confirmed.

Some analysts involved with Able Danger have recently gone public with their findings, saying they were discouraged from looking further into Atta, and their attempts to share their information with the FBI were thwarted, because Atta was a legal foreign visitor at the time.

"This story needs to be told. The American people need to be told what could have been done to prevent 3,000 people from losing their lives," said Rep. Curt Weldon (search), R-Pa.

Weldon drew attention to Able Danger by speaking about it on the House floor and publicly calling for the Sept. 11 commission to explain why the intelligence information wasn't detailed in its final report.

Some Able Danger analysts, including Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer (search) and Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott (search), claim that in October 2003, they told commission staffers of the presence of Al Qaeda operatives in the United States in 2000.


more
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166800,00.html


Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1727804&mesg_id=1727804




Condi in Middle of Able Danger ‘Cover Up’"

Weldon is now saying that the Pentagon cover up of able danger “will shake the country to its roots."

...

If the claims made by the Able Danger participants and Rep. Weldon are confirmed, former National Security Adviser Rice and other Bush Administration officials will face a barrage of questions. First would likely be an inquiry into why the administration unceremoniously axed the Able Danger project in May of 2001.

During an August 20th interview on C-Span’s Washington Journal, Able Danger member Lt. Col. Schaffer posed a question of his own:

"The American public should ask themselves: Why would the leadership of DoD shut down, terminate, a project which was aimed at targeting al-Qaeda offensively? ...

"Why would they shut that down, four months before 9/11? That’s the big question right now, we have to ask that. I don’t know the answer to that question because I know my side of the story, I know that when a 2 star general got in my face and said, “I’m a 2 star general and you are not. You are to stop your support of Able Danger.” That’s what I know personally. But the question has to be: Who told him to do that? ...

"And why did the rest of the project, I’m talking about Special Operations Command and the Army portion of this, why was that terminated?

"Those are the questions that need to be asked."


more...

http://www.theinternationalpost.com/z30082005.html

Congressman Weldon -- Why now? Why ever?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4500623

Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three more people associated with a secret U.S. military intelligence team have asserted that the program identified September 11 ringleader Mohammed Atta as an Al Qaeda suspect inside the United States more than a year before the 2001 attacks, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

The Pentagon said a three-week review had turned up no documents to back up the assertion, but did not rule out that such documents relating to the classified operation had been destroyed.

Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott and Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer last month came forward with statements that a secret intelligence program code-named "Able Danger" had identified Atta, the lead hijacker in the attacks that killed 3,000 people, in early 2000. Pennsylvania Republican Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), vice chairman of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, also went public with the allegations.

Pat Downs, a senior policy analyst in the office of the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, told reporters that as part of the review, the Pentagon interviewed 80 people.

Downs said that three more people, as well as Phillpott and Shaffer, recalled the existence of an intelligence chart identifying Atta by name. Four of the five recalled a photo of Atta accompanying the chart, Downs said.

Pentagon officials declined to identify the three by name, but said they were an analyst with the military's Special Operations Command, an analyst with the Land Information Warfare Assessment Center and a contractor who supported the center.

Downs said all five were considered "credible people."

But officials said an exhaustive search of tens of thousands of documents and electronic files related to Able Danger failed to find the chart or other documents corroborating the identification of Atta. Phillpott has said Atta was identified by Able Danger by January or February of 2000.

"We have not discovered that chart," Downs said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/security_attacks_pentagon_dc


Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1744982&mesg_id=1744982

Specter Wants Answers About 'Able Danger'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1796658&mesg_id=1796658


NYT/Reuters: Pentagon Blocks Testimony at Senate Hearing on Terrorist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1795221&mesg_id=1795221

NOW - ON CAPITOL HILL - Able Danger Inquiry CSPAN3 9:30am et
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4836496

Able Danger ties Condi Rice to Chinese espionage! (really!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4846388&mesg_id=4846388

VIDEO-the Senate Judicial Committee ABLE DANGER saga
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?

Official: (Curt Weldon) Attack on Cole foreseen (ABLE DANGER)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1915365&mesg_id=1915365

New 9/11 Timeline update, with new Able Danger page
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?

Weldon seeks Defense testimony on al-Qaida
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1931300

Weldon rips 9/11 commission over intelligence failures
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1959226

General gave OK for Able Danger (confirms al-Qaida mission prior to 9/11)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1973724

Remember how Rowley said the Minneapolis agents joked that it seemed Osama had a mole at FBI headquarters?



They never thought that maybe Osama and FBI headquarters were on the same side.



There is a stream of fire from which emerge poisonous flames.
There is none else there except the self.
The waves of the ocean of fire are aflame
And the sinners are burning in them.

2. Sikhism. Adi Granth, Maru Solahe, M.1, p. 1026

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn03092006.html

By ALEXANDER COCKBURN

A former State Department security officer has given CounterPunch a detailed memoir and documents that point to very curious conduct by the CIA, Secret Service and FBI in the Philippines following warnings of an assassination bid on President Clinton during his November 12/13, 1994 visit to Manila.

The bid was organized by the 1993 WTC bomber Ramzi Yousef, at the direction of, and with financial support from, Osama bin Laden (who was indicted for the plot by a federal grand jury in August 1998).

A Pakistani linked to that Manila plot, and also to Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency may still be at large. The security officer charges a U.S. cover-up of possible involvement by the Pakistani ISI in the 9/11/01 attack on the Trade Towers. Although given these same leads, the Official 9/11 Commission failed to investigate them.

This past December, Sam Karmilowicz finished a 21-year career as an officer in the U.S. State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security. Back in 1994 he was working as an Assistant Regional Security Officer at the U.S. Embassy in Manila, when John D. Negroponte was the ambassador. These days, Negroponte is the U.S. Director of National Intelligence.

On the morning of September 18, 1994, Karmilowicz recalls, "the U.S. embassy received a telephone call from an anonymous person (who spoke with a distinct middle eastern accent) concerning his knowledge of an assassination plot against President William Clinton, who was scheduled to visit Manila that coming November."

Thanks, 'Dreamy! Cockburn sure can put things into words...

Speaking of treason, a story that went away all too quickly:





What would we do without the truth slipping under the cell door, on occassion?

Song of Choice

Early every year, seeds are growing
Unseen, unheard, they lie beneath the ground
Would you know before the leaves are showing
That with weeds all your garden will abound?

If you close your eyes, stop your ears
Hold your mouth, how can you know?
The seeds you cannot see may not be there
The seeds you cannot hear may never grow

In January you've still got the choice
You can cut the weeds before they start to bud
If you leave them to grow higher, they'll silence your voice
And in December you may pay with your blood

Close your eyes, stop your ears
Close your mouth and take it slow
Let others take the lead and you bring up the rear
And later you can say you didn't know

Everyday another vulture takes flight
There's another danger born every morning
In the darkness of your blindness the beast will learn to bite
How can you fight if you can't recognize a warning?

Close your eyes, stop your ears
Close your mouth and then you know
Let others take the lead and you bring up the rear
And later you can say you didn't know

Today you may earn a living wage
Tomorrow you may be on the dole
Though there's millions going hungry, you needn't disengage
For it's them, not you, that's fallen in the hole

It's alright for you if you run with the pack
It's alright if you agree with all they do
If the fascist's party slowly climbing back
It's not here yet, so what's it got to do with you?

The weeds are all around us and they're growing
It will soon be too late for the knife
If you leave them on the wind that around the world is blowing
You may pay for your silence with your life

Close your eyes, stop your ears
Close your mouth, they're never there
And if it happens here, they'll never come for you
Because they'll know you really didn't care

Peggy Seeger


"Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer, ein Volk"



One Hope, One people, One country, One leader.
One Hope, One people, One country, One destiny.

Stand up be brave my people we're here to stay, for a thousand years.
An oath you've spoken, can never be broken, you'll pay, in blood and tears
Never tire, never doubt, never falter, never slacken, Just believe in me.
Stand up, shout loud, stand proud, in what we will we will achieve.

One Hope, One people, One country, One leader will set you free
One Hope, One people, One country, One destiny for a thousand years

Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk.

It's not enough just to say you love your country, its not enough.
It's not enough to get down on your knees and pray, it's just not enough.

The price is high, the price you have to pay is your freedom, surrender yourselves.
Mothers send me your blue-eyed blonde-haired boys and let me see them, blue-eyed blonde-haired boys.

One Hope, One people, One country, One leader will set you free.
One Hope, One people, One country, One destiny for a thousand years.

Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk,
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher, Ein Volk.

One Hope, One people, One country, One leader will set you free
One Hope, One people, One country, One destiny for a thousand years.

How and Why Fascists Overtook the American Government
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2152568

George W Bush is a NAZI Stooge
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2418676#2423787

Nazis in the Republican Party
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1872652

It's time for another Bush/Nazis thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=199853


How the Bush Family Wealth is Linked to the Jewish Holocaust
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=311500

The Ghost of Adolph Hitler: Nazi Influence in America by John Stanton
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=572722

Enough with the "_______ is worse than/ as bad as Hitler"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1730317

DUers may enjoy the work of Zbigniew Libera:



Everyone who gives a damn about republics and democracy should appreciate the work of Peter Dale Scott:





Gee. It's getting to be a regular Rex 84 Redux around here.

The law never stopped the BFEE from going through innocent people's email, phone calls and mail.



Why would they decide to go straight for Moussaoui?



Why did the FBI Washington HQ ignore the warnings of the Minnesota FBI field office?

Why did the FBI fail to investigate Moussaoui?

Why did the FBI fail to obtain a FISA warrant to search his laptop?

The law never stopped them before.

Thanks Octafish I wish we were still giving out hearts but instead today I give you lovely Peyton Rose under the fountain. For her, and Ben, and Callie, and Ian, and all the rest of the young people on this planet I will not stop fighting these giggling serial killers.

Their biggest fear is becoming evident to more and more people -- that the Truth about their evil nature becoming known.

That is why the pen is mightier than the sword and why the Truth is our most potent weapon.



Thanks, Binka! That happy, beautiful and wonderful child is why we work.

As a father (and now grandfather! Can't believe where the time went...), I find children to be proof of this being a most special existence.

Seeing Peyton Rose and her smile show how this can be the most wonderful world. Her happy face and the smile she wears are two of the most beautiful and precious images in the universe.

Thank you for sharing that image with me and DU. Thank you for sharing your blessing with us.

and then had trouble getting it back!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-09-26-moussaoui_x.htm

Thanks, MrBenchley. Missed that about that fine traitor Johnny Ashcan.



A small world. And very, very bad.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/070605_wellstone.shtml

The question is what are we going to do about it?

Resisting them through non-violent means and spreading the truth has proven effective, so far.

Too bad the voting machines don't work.

Until that day, mehr licht:



Now THAT's doing something about it.

:kick:

...both were in the Radical Fundamentalist Unit.

Courtesy of Randi Rhodes, the Congressional testimony of Laurie Van Auken, who lost her husband Sept. 11, 2001:



Why doesn't Corporate McPravda look into this apparent conflict?

Why do we have to do all the work, RUMMYisFROSTED?

Thanks for giving a damn.

:hi:

Geez, Swampissimo. I almost woke up the casa falling out of my chair.

That shot must've been a real blow. Against the empire.





A real blast from the past.

Work by Polish artist Zbigniew Libera:



The guy got imprisoned by the commies for drawing cartoons about them.



That was in the late 1980s.



Appears to me that the same mindset is coming to America today.



That is, unless more people wake the heck up.



Maybe someone should ask Halliburton to explain why the Bushiz gave them contracts to build all those camps in the USA.



EDIT: Messed up an image. Sorree.

Thanks for the kick, yurbud!

Our FBI certainly appreciates it.



So whatever happened to that pipeline?

Oh yeah, our newly installed puppet in Kabul saw it installed, personally.

....to Mr. Octafish. As always ... amazing, concise, and grounding. Been reading DU daily now for about 3 years (don't make many posts, obviously) and boy does this guy (me) get down to business for some truth when he (me) sees an Octafish thread appear. I live in Colleen Rowley's district. My wife and I have contributed a bit to her campaign. She needs to represent us, and this thread just strengthens my will to work for her election.

Thankyou, Octafish and everyone else who knows, as Mark Twain said, "If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything". Cheers!

If I'd known you were here, I'd of said this sooner: A most hearty welcome to DU!

Thanks for letting us know about Ms. Rowley. I wish our Congress had 400 more like her.

Did you see the Mother Jones profile?

http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2006/03/colleen_rowley.html

Here's a nice archive of things certain cockroaches would prefer stayed in the dark:

Well, you know the story of the Empire Strikes Back, so I need go no further.

Thanks for the kindly welcome. I'm on a certain mission (in a fittingly snowy climate) here on a local level in small town Minnesota. Letters to the editor of the local paper (population 3,700) have created an uproar of democratic and also uber-fascist-theocratic responses -- basically delivering world-politics to the local mainstream. It has never happened before in this community (world consciousness portrayed through LTTEs). Simply said, folks want to know. I don't contribute much of anything to DU, but I keep track, and it's a great resource for logically balanced LTTEs, and when I am at my most wary of whether-or-not anything will make a difference --- I can trustfully turn to an Octafish thread for proof of what's happening in the real world. (That sorta made sense -- it's late here in MN and I'm ready for cozy bed-times).

But, back to Collen Rowley. She's actually making a go of honest political action in the face of a completely bought-out political environment. If she gains a seat in the House, I will continue to be active and push back the tendency to just say, "Who gives a fuck -- it's all beyond our control anyway".

It's late. I'm rambling. But, thanks for the thread, Octafish .... keep 'em coming!! (It helps .... way helps!) And thanks for the welcome.

D'oh! Forgot one:



As you know, the newspaper and its readers are one of the cornerstones of our democracy. That's why the Founders wrote the First Amendment, naming the Free Press (along with freedom of speech, assembly, religion and recourse for redress of grievances). The Press is the only business mentioned by name in the Constitution. Their reason is that only an informed citizenry is capable of electing worthy representatives.

I wonder what the Founders would've thought about Henry Kissinger's ideas about democracy and how some people aren't capable of making up their own minds as to who they'd like to see govern:

"I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves."

Well. That certainly goes a long way toward explaining SCOTUS-V and Florida Selection 2000.

The Founders had no idea about communists. (They certainly wouldn't have like seeing Corporations recognized as legal entities, either.) They certainly would've recognized a traitor's thinking, however.

PS: Thanks for the kinds words, Horseradish.

Welcome to DU!
I will be sending Rowley a donation as well!
:hi:

Dekkers and their flight school in Venice, FL. I am having trouble locating the original story, but it is probably buried in here somewhere.
http://www.madcowprod.com/

http://www.madcowprod.com/issue24.html


http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/HOP403A.html

http://www.madcowprod.com/appendix/appendix2.htm



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Hopsicker's site is a difficult place to navigate, but still we should be able to find what we're looking for via Metacrawler or whatever.

Until then, here's a decent overview from which I wish I didn't have to snip:



Great info, yours, lonestarnot! Thanks. And it IS getting harder to find some of the original articles. Hence, the importance of cut-and-paste and spreading the results.

Who knows? Perhaps the day will come when these treasonous cock-a-roaches end up with no place to hide.

The two Congressmen who actually got the Washington FBI to get off their collective asses and do something about Moussaoui favor impeaching the incompetent -- at best -- or treasonous -- most likely -- George W Bush.



Every day, we move closer to the goal of bringing these traitors to justice.