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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:44 PM
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AARRGGHH!!! Do they think were STUPID? (Iran's "provocative" statements).
The ABC News story on the "provocative" / "harm and pain" statement from Iran goes (in part) like this:

"Iran Threatens U.S. With 'Harm and Pain'

By GEORGE JAHN

VIENNA, Austria Mar 8, 2006 (AP)— Iran threatened the United States with "harm and pain" Wednesday for its role in hauling Tehran before the U.N. Security Council over its nuclear program.

The White House dismissed the rhetoric out of Tehran."


http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1700494

Scott McClellan: "I think that provocative statements and actions only further isolate Iran from the rest of the world."

John Bolton: "Their threats show why leaving a country like that with a nuclear weapon is so dangerous."

Look in the mirror much, John?!

I'm sure everyone in the White House forgot what "context" was a long time ago. But the people (I hope)... and ABC News (doubtful) have retained SOME common sense?

First of all, the full statement read "The United States has the power to cause harm and pain. But the United States is also susceptible to harm and pain. So if that is the path that the U.S. wishes to choose, let the ball roll."

Bush and the White House have been, both implicitly and explicitly, threatening Iran for years now. This statement is simply a response to those threats.

It was BUSH who branded Iran as one of the "Axis of Evil".
It was BUSH who invaded, conquered and occupied the first member of that Axis - Iraq.
It is BUSH who has used nearly identical language and tactics about Iran as he did about Iraq before we invaded.
It is BUSH who has consistently made the point that "all options" are open against Iran.

Isn't starting a war of choice against a nation that posed no threat "provocative"?

Really, it's obvious who's been making provocative statements and actions regarding that part of the world for the past few years. And it's not Iran.


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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:53 PM
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1. New World Order-speak: No One Has the Right of Self-Defense...
The victim is the aggressor, the invader the aggrieved.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:57 PM
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2. again, Scottie isn't speaking to us
he's speaking to his base. This what they expect to hear, is all the justification they require for us to lob an H Bomb at Tehran.

Why are you being so unpatriotic? You're giving aid and comfort to the terrists!
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:59 PM
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3. Yeah, I know. But his "base" is only 20% accdg. to the latest polls.
I think it was CBS (the poll where he was at 34% approval) that gave him a "strongly support" number of only 20%.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:00 PM
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4. No. They just don't CARE what we think. n/t
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:08 PM
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5. how do we propose a new license plate to South Dakota
every time I see your sig line I just crack up

I wonder what the official process is, seriously. Maybe we can make the submission a pet project on DU and lobby for it and everything.

:rofl:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:19 PM
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8. That graphic is going on one of my new window decals for my car.
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 02:20 PM by in_cog_ni_to
:) I'm in Illinois. I wonder if SD has custom made license plates? This graphic really would be perfect for that! with PINK numbers.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:15 PM
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6. The EU-3 agreed to go along with this brinksmanship up to a point.
That point of no return will arrive soon -- Russia and China will veto any real sanctions or resolution authorizing the use of force at the UNSC. That means that either:

1) any sanctions that all the members of the SC might impose will be largely symbolic; or

2) the US and/or Israel will take unilateral action wihout UN support; or

3) the Council will reject the US hard-line position, and failing to put togther a consensus on face-saving symbolic sanctions, the Bush Administration failed arm-twisting at the UN will be cast as yet another abject failure of its policies, and this will hasten the fall of the regime.

Personally, I think 1) face-saving symbolic sanctions are most likely.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:18 PM
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7. Yes, they do think that.... And they're right...
As an aggregate, Americans ARE stupid.

What more proof do you need than the last decade of republican rule?

If you disagree: Is there ANYTHING that could convince you that Americans, as an aggregate, are stupid?
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