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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:22 PM
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Abramoff's illegal funding of the sniper school (interesting!)
http://www.juancole.com/2006/01/abramoff-and-al-arian-lobbyists.html

Abramoff and al-Arian: Lobbyist's "Charity" a Front for Terrorism
By Juan Cole
January 4 2006

The guilty plea of fabulously wealthy and highly corrupt lobbyist Jack Abramoff raised the question of whether he would roll over on congressmen involved in illegal fundraising and other crimes with him. Some twenty Republicans on Capitol Hill are said to be in danger.

Abramoff's dense network of illicit finances and phony charities might end some political careers in the United States. But the investigation into his activities by the FBI also shed light on the ways in which rightwing American Jews have often been involved in funding what are essentially terrorist activities by armed land thieves in Palestinian territory.

Indeed, it was this terror funding of Israeli far right militiamen that tripped Abramoff up, since the FBI discovered that he had misled Indian tribes into giving money to the Jabotinskyites, and then began wondering if he had defrauded the tribes in other ways. (You betcha!) The Indian leaders were furious when they discovered they had been used to oppress another dispossessed indigenous people, the Palestinians, calling it "Outer Limits bizarre" and saying that they would never have willingly given money to such a cause.

Newsweek's Mike Issikoff reported last May that Abramoff diverted $140,000 from a charity ostensibly to benefit inner-city youths to militant Israeli colonists who had usurped land in the Palestinian West Bank. Isikoff wrote:

"Among the expenditures: purchases of camouflage suits, sniper scopes, night-vision binoculars, a thermal imager and other material described in foundation records as "security" equipment. The FBI, sources tell NEWSWEEK, is now examining these payments as part of a larger investigation to determine if Abramoff defrauded his Indian tribe clients . . .

Abramoff, a legendary lobbyist particularly close to DeLay, is also a fierce supporter of Israel—"a super-Zionist," one associate says. That may explain why Abramoff's paramilitary gear ended up in the town of Beitar Illit, a sprawling ultra-Orthodox outpost whose residents have occasionally tangled with their Palestinian neighbors. Yitzhak Pindrus, the settlement's mayor, says that several years ago the town was confronting mounting security problems. "They (the Palestinians) were throwing stones, they were throwing Molotov cocktails," Pindrus says. Abramoff's connection to the town was Schmuel Ben-Zvi, an American emigre who, the lobbyist told associates, was an old friend he knew from Los Angeles. Capital Athletic Foundation public tax records make no mention of Ben-Zvi. But they do show payments to "Kollel Ohel Tiferet" in Israel, a group for which there is no public listing and which the town's mayor said he never heard of.


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wixomblues Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:27 PM
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1. "militant Israeli colonists who had usurped land"
What a bunch of crap. Let's bring the fact that he's Jewish into the limelight, and use it to bash Israel. Great article Pitt.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:28 PM
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2. Um...
The point is that he took tribal money given to him for American political purposes and diverted it illegally to a paramilitary organization.

This was called "Iran/Contra" when Reagan did it.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:34 PM
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7. Looks more like he diverted charity funds for inner-city youth to
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 05:34 PM by sinkingfeeling
xxxxx (guess we're not allowed to say Israel).
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:51 PM
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:10 PM
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17. I think you are over reacting here
"Super Zionists" are basically war mongerers who happen to be Jewish. (not war mongerers because they are Jewish)

I'm thinking to the right of Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu type "super Zionist"

but that's just my take on it.

And I don't think that those who criticize Israel's policies towards their enemies is "anti-semitic"

That's just an argument used to quell criticism of Israel.

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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:47 PM
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18. Equating criticism of Israeli policies with anti-semitism is as illogical
as criticism of the Iraq war with being "anti-American".

Thinking people go beyond that. It simply is a violation of US law to fund foreign paramilitary groups.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:33 PM
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23. Yep. And anyone who criticized Idi Amin were just racists, right?
(sheesh!) :eyes:
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wixomblues Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:54 AM
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25. Read between the lines.
Either you are against all intolerance, or I don't want to deal with you. The cause if Israel is valid, noble, and often misconstrued-as is the cause of many groups in the middle east. I felt the way the article was worded was biased against Israel, and painted this crook as the stereotypical "evil Jew".
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:37 PM
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9. Yes and let us never talk about Israeli colonists who take land
by force. Anyone who does automatically hates Jews. Same as anyone who talks bad about our occupation of Iraq hates freedom. :eyes: I'm sorry, but this article is just not what you want it to be.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 03:08 AM
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28. Thank you , Rex. I have noticed that it is not a welcome
subject to critize political actions that happen in Israel. One is instantly attacked as an anti semite. I have already seen a few flames tonight about this subject.But then , freedom is rapidly disappearing in this country and I guess that includes the right to have an opinion.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:32 PM
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13. Viva Palestine!
:kick:
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:30 PM
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3. Wow.
When this whole AIPAC thing comes full circle, there'll be a lot of people going to jail.

Holy crap.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:37 AM
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27. Kicked. Interesting...crazy and interesting. n/t
PB
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:31 PM
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4. MY GOD!
do i smell IRAN/CONTRA - Like FUMES here?

:wow:

this fucker....
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:32 PM
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5. k & r -- on general principle
eom
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:33 PM
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6. Sorta fits this image:
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 05:41 PM by understandinglife

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/01/brilliant.html

Interesting ...:

Now here's the thing. If a Palestinian-American had diverted $140,000 from a Muslim charity to "security equipment" and "sniper lessons" for Palestinians on the West Bank, that individual would be in Gitmo so fast that the sonic boom would rattle your windows.

In fact, it seems to me that Sami al-Arian is the mirror image of Abramoff.

But here's a prediction. None of the Jewish extremists, some of them violent, who are invading the West Bank and making the lives of the local Palestinians miserable will ever be branded "terrorists" by the US Government, and Abramoff's foray into providing sniper lessons will be quietly buried.

Terror isn't terror and aggression is not aggression when it has lobbyists in Congress who can provide luxury vacations and illegal campaign funding.

Link:
http://www.juancole.com/2006/01/abramoff-and-al-arian-lobbyists.html




Peace.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:31 PM
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22. love that picture! n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:36 PM
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8. No wonder they won't let al-Arian out of jail
They certainly don't need him out on the street telling his story.



George and Laura Bush with Sami Amin Al-Arian, who is
charged with 50 counts of terrorism. Al-Arian even
went to a White House briefing with Karl Rove.

http://www.sullivan-county.com/bush/al-arian3.htm

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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:37 PM
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10. Where is the outrage?
Thinking about Friends of Sinn Fein

Hypocrisy is astounding.

180
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:45 PM
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11. Cole sums it up nicely at the end
"Now here's the thing. If a Palestinian-American had diverted $140,000 from a Muslim charity to "security equipment" and "sniper lessons" for Palestinians on the West Bank, that individual would be in Gitmo so fast that the sonic boom would rattle your windows.

In fact, it seems to me that Sami al-Arian is the mirror image of Abramoff.

But here's a prediction. None of the Jewish extremists, some of them violent, who are invading the West Bank and making the lives of the local Palestinians miserable will ever be branded "terrorists" by the US Government, and Abramoff's foray into providing sniper lessons will be quietly buried.

Terror isn't terror and aggression is not aggression when it has lobbyists in Congress who can provide luxury vacations and illegal campaign funding."
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:46 PM
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12. I'm going to try to track the extremes of his crimes. Most brassy-
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 05:47 PM by higher class
laughable so far - setting up a young guy as a CEO of one of A's laundering companies - a kid who may have never even risen to supervisor in any of his many previous on-the-common-side jobs.

At the other extreme we have an insult and abuse crime against our own people combined with personal religion motives plus foreign meddling and actions bridging on treason.

Indians bad. White man good.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:48 PM
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14. I just don't think I can take much more of this shit.
These people are worse than criminal scum,....and they are being ALLOWED to engage in exploitation that is simply,...beyond my imagination. They are all tied into one great big knot that is squeezing the very life out of this nation.

Fuck. Get me outta' this insane asylum!!!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:47 PM
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19. I can relate. I feel the same way. nm
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:33 AM
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26. Lower than whale shit at the bottom of the ocean n/t
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:01 PM
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16. so who's bought the rights to the book and made for tube movie?
this guy didn't seem to have ethics or borders.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:24 PM
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20. I'm gonna kick this up again. I missed it earlier.
All I can say is "holy shit."
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:27 PM
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21. kick for info
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:12 AM
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24. K & R - glad this hasn't been kicked into the closet yet
Too often important posts on American-Israeli matters are moved into the Israeli/Palestine affairs forum, where it is not possible to vote them onto the Greatest Page. I see this as a form of censorship and consider it very dangerous, considering the current political situation.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 03:28 AM
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29. K and R




:kick:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:47 AM
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30. Bulletin to CCM (Corporate Controlled Media)
The American public has a right and a need to know all about this.

Do your job. Tell the truth without prejudice or malice. Just tell the people the truth.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:09 AM
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31. I'm disgusted - over and over -
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 02:05 PM
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32. K & R. Face the truth of this sc*mbag.
He's a terrorist.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 02:09 PM
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33. so the Republicans are now linked to a terrorist organization
So shouldnt they be sent to prisons in eastern europe now??? :shrug:
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 02:28 PM
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34. in an irony rich just world, yes.
K&R

it just doesn't stop.... until we all get off our ass and stop it.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 03:29 PM
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35. Mafiya rules in the new Chicago on the Potomac.
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