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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:31 PM
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'V for Vendetta' Right or Wrong time to be released?
The plot for "V for Vendetta" (which the movie is said to closely follow) is highly charged, with several acts of terrorism against a fascist government. Is this the right time for the movie?

By the way-I can't wait to see it.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:32 PM
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1. This movie's been delayed for over a year.
Release it already.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:34 PM
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2. The guy who wrote the original
has disowned the whole thing.

See the article in the Sunday NYT Arts section.

Doesn't mean that I don't want to see it. Just saying that there is a bit of controversy attached to the project.
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:36 PM
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3. Last week's?
Must have skipped it? What did he have to say?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:38 PM
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4. It is in THIS week's Sunday Times
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:42 PM
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5. Thanks!
I'll be grabbing a copy ASAP.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 06:46 PM
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6. or try this link
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:04 PM
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8. Or read this that states otherwise.
Edited on Sat Mar-11-06 07:27 PM by IChing
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 10:36 PM
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16. I don't think he disowned it because of the movie itself.
Alan Moore, the writer of the graphic novel, was actually upset because of the movie treatment made of another of his works, "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen." Because of that, he pretty much vowed not to get involved with any movie treatments of his works over which he has lost copyright.

For the record, Alan Moore's "League" is worlds better than the crap that showed up on film.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 10:45 PM
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18. No, it says he didn't like his contracts or the screenplays
Not that he disowned his novellas. He still approves of "V," just not the way he or the novella has been treated.

Since then, he has refused to allow any more movies to be made from work he controls. In the case of work whose rights he does not control, he has refused credits on any film adaptations, and has given his share of option money and royalties to the artists who illustrated the original comic books. That position is so radical that though his colleagues say they respect his position, few in the film industry can understand it.

...and again with "V for Vendetta" (illustrated by David Lloyd), published in America in 1988-89, about an enigmatic freedom fighter opposing a totalitarian British regime — Mr. Moore helped prove that graphic novels could be a vehicle for sophisticated storytelling. "Alan was one of the first writers of our generation, of great courage and great literary skill," said Paul Levitz, the president and publisher of DC Comics. "You could watch him stretching the boundaries of the medium."

But by 1989, Mr. Moore had severed his ties with DC. The publisher says he objected to its decision to label its adult-themed comics (including some of his own) as "Suggested for Mature Readers." Mr. Moore says he was objecting to language in his contracts that would give him back the rights to "Watchmen" and "V for Vendetta" when they went out of print — language that he says turned out to be meaningless, because DC never intended to stop reprinting either book. "I said, 'Fair enough,' " he recalls. " 'You have managed to successfully swindle me, and so I will never work for you again.' "

Mr. Levitz said that such so-called reversion clauses routinely appear in comic book contracts, and that DC has honored all of its obligations to Mr. Moore. "I don't think Alan was dissatisfied at the time," Mr. Levitz said. "I think he was dissatisfied several years later."

Mr. Lloyd, the illustrator of "V for Vendetta," also found it difficult to sympathize with Mr. Moore's protests. When he and Mr. Moore sold their film rights to the graphic novel, Mr. Lloyd said: "We didn't do it innocently. Neither myself nor Alan thought we were signing it over to a board of trustees who would look after it like it was the Dead Sea Scrolls."

Mr. Moore recognizes that his senses of justice and proportion may seem overdeveloped. "It is important to me that I should be able to do whatever I want," he said. "I was kind of a selfish child, who always wanted things his way, and I've kind of taken that over into my relationship with the world."

In 2001, the first film adaptation of one of Mr. Moore's graphic novels arrived in theaters. "From Hell," distributed by 20th Century Fox, was based on his extensively researched account of the Jack the Ripper murders, a 572-page black-and-white title illustrated by Eddie Campbell. Mr. Moore had no creative participation in the film, and happily so. "There was no way that I would be able to be fair to it," he said. "I did not wish to be connected with it, and regarded it as something separate to my work. In retrospect, this was kind of a naïve attitude."

Two years later, when 20th Century Fox released a movie version of "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen," the screenwriter Larry Cohen and the producer Martin Poll sued the studio, charging that elements of the film had been plagiarized from their work. Though the film, which was one of the year's costliest flops, differed drastically from the graphic novel, the lawsuit nonetheless claimed that the "Extraordinary Gentlemen" comics had been created as a "smokescreen" to cover up the theft.

Mr. Moore found the accusations deeply insulting, and the 10 hours of testimony he was compelled to give, via video link, even more so. "If I had raped and murdered a schoolbus full of retarded children after selling them heroin," he said, "I doubt that I would have been cross-examined for 10 hours." When the case was settled out of court, Mr. Moore took it as an especially bitter blow, believing that he had been denied the chance to exonerate himself.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 06:29 PM
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24. He hasn't "disowned" it because of the content
He is very anti-Hollywood and wants nothing to do with the project. Or any project from Hollywood.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:15 PM
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9. Can someone provide some information please? I'm sure I'm not the only
person that doesn't know what you're talking about and all the links provided are 404 or requires subscription to the NYT.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:16 PM
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10. my links do not
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:18 PM
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11. try bugmenot
Edited on Sat Mar-11-06 07:19 PM by chat_noir
www.bugmenot.com



use: www.nytimes.com
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:22 PM
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14. V for Vendetta
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 10:41 PM
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17. Very briefly, it's a story about a man living in a 1984-style Britain
who conducts a one-man terrorism campaign against the state.

I think it's the perfect time to release this movie, personally- and what's more- I think it's interesting that fascism is so much on people's minds of late. The fascist setting is the point, not the terrorism, IMHO.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 11:55 PM
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22. Hold off on the release til it's not allowed to be released at all.
Edited on Sat Mar-11-06 11:57 PM by Chimichurri
:sarcasm:

I mean, The Carlyle Group does own Loews cineplex http://www.freepress.net/news/article.php?id=3930 after all.

Edited to include: ***meant to post to original post - not as a response to Marr. Sorry for the mispost.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 11:09 PM
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20. V is based on one of the few "comic books" worth reading
It really is a graphic novel, though, and not a comic book. In a hundred years, Alan Moore will be remembered among the greats of the twentieth century.

I, if forced to compare and rate, would put "V for Vendetta" above "The Sun Also Rises" but below "As I Lay Dying," and owing a great deal to "Brave New World" and "1984" (though avoiding most dystopian fantasies, still British and fascist).
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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:19 PM
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12. V
I think this is the perfect time for this movie to be released
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:21 PM
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13. Is there a wrong time ?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 07:26 PM
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15. I'm all in favor of educational films
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 10:45 PM
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19. I'm all in favor of films with an inspirational tagline.
:thumbsup:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 11:12 PM
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21. if not now, when?
btw, a lot of people asked that question when F/911 was about to be released
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 12:01 AM
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23. It sounds like JUST the right time -
influence those young folks who like the graphic novels, just in time for their first chance to VOTE!!

They are showing trailers the last couple of days in LA (maybe longer - I watch little TV).
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 06:32 PM
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25. What do you mean by right time?
I don't understand your post.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 07:19 PM
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26. There is no "wrong time". This is a free country.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:17 PM
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27. Perfect time!
I really want to see it, too.
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