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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:29 PM
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Never forget that * did not back down.
Edited on Sun Mar-12-06 03:37 PM by demgurl
Now that the UAE deal is supposedly behind us I see that the GOP is fighting such Dems as Feingold by stating issues such as censure take away from * fighting his war on terror.

I am sorry but the days of any right winger being able to defend him must be stopped at once. When they say that * is strong we must remind them that * was willing to use his very first veto to override what people in the entire country wanted. It did not matter what the average Joe thought and it did not matter what anyone in congress or the senate thought.

The UAE allegedly backing down from a deal does not change the fact that * put up his middle finger to the whole country and said he would do what he wanted to do and he knew better than any other person in this country.

For anyone, at this point, to say that * was right about the UAE is to say that everyone else is wrong and we should vote all of the bums out. Remind them of this and shove it down their throats. They must not be allowed to keep touting the tough on terror stance.

In conjunction with this, we must never say a Republican candidate's name without mentioning *'s name in the very same sentence. * is soft on terror and these people have been supporting his agenda the entire time. They are all connected and must remain so. * must become the pork chop tied around the ugly child's neck.

From here on out when you hear someone say how great * is and how tough he is on terror, it is now our job to remind them that UAE backing out does not change the stance * took on the issue. Repeat this and repeat it loudly. If we raise a big enough stink about this then at the very least our 'representatives' will try and distance themselves and nothing else this cabal wants will go through.

Say it and say it often.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:31 PM
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1. KandR!
Peace.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:31 PM
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2. make it a double
:thumbsup:
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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:53 PM
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3. Thanks and peace to you. eom
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 03:57 PM
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4. "* must become the pork chop tied around the ugly child's neck."
Love it!

BUSH TRIED TO SELL OUR PORT SECURITY TO A TERRORIST-LOVING NATION AND ___________ SUPPORTS HIS AGENDA!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:20 PM
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5. blivet** said quite clearly in his speech on Friday that
he is the one making the decisions and it doesn't hinge on what the people want at all. He gave them an out already. He gave them the chance to say that blivet** "knows better than we do what needs to be done".

It makes me sick to think of the round of talking heads we are going to have to hear with that line of crap falling from their mouths.
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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:34 PM
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7. Even is he gave his party an out, that does not apply ...
to the general public. The public has heard nothing but 'terra, terra, terra' since 9/11. This deal scared them and made them rethink whose side this jerk is really on. Even if the GOP says * knows best, do you think that is what the American public is thinking right now?

If the GOP sticks with him then the public will turn against all of them if they reminded of this incident at every turn. If the GOP feels they must distance themselves then this will help us since they will not be voting all those horrendous bills through any more.

This is a win-win situation for us no matter which way they go - especially when they keep stating how tough * is on terror. We have to act on their doubts - not because we are dishonest but because they have ripped away part of the fabric and seeing what is truly behind the curtain.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:25 PM
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6. Well, the wee cowboy NEVER backs down...WHY????
Because he always manages to trip over his high-heeled shoes when he tries to walk backwards!!!

It's a bitch trying to walk backwards with enormous lifts in your shoes, ya see...it's hard enough to walk forward in them, all tilted forward with the added burden of ballistic clothing, because he can't even hide out with an enormous protection team and miles and miles of secured space surrounding him...just because he is such a total dickweed!!!!



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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 04:35 PM
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8. President Bush: Flip-Flopper-In-Chief
President Bush: Flip-Flopper-In-Chief
September 2, 2004

From the beginning, George W. Bush has made his own credibility a central issue. On 10/11/00, then-Gov. Bush said: "I think credibility is important.It is going to be important for the president to be credible with Congress, important for the president to be credible with foreign nations." But President Bush's serial flip-flopping raises serious questions about whether Congress and foreign leaders can rely on what he says.

1. Social Security Surplus

BUSH PLEDGES NOT TO TOUCH SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS... "We're going to keep the promise of Social Security and keep the government from raiding the Social Security surplus."

...BUSH SPENDS SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS The New York Times reported that "the president's new budget uses Social Security surpluses to pay for other programs every year through 2013, ultimately diverting more than $1.4 trillion in Social Security funds to other purposes."

2. Patient's Right to Sue

GOVERNOR BUSH VETOES PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "Despite his campaign rhetoric in favor of a patients' bill of rights, Bush fought such a bill tooth and nail as Texas governor, vetoing a bill coauthored by Republican state Rep. John Smithee in 1995. He... constantly opposed a patient's right to sue an HMO over coverage denied that resulted in adverse health effects."

...CANDIDATE BUSH PRAISES TEXAS PATIENTS' RIGHT TO SUE... "We're one of the first states that said you can sue an HMO for denying you proper coverage... It's time for our nation to come together and do what's right for the people. And I think this is right for the people. You know, I support a national patients' bill of rights, Mr. Vice President. And I want all people covered. I don't want the law to supersede good law like we've got in Texas."

...PRESIDENT BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION ARGUES AGAINST RIGHT TO SUE "To let two Texas consumers, Juan Davila and Ruby R. Calad, sue their managed-care companies for wrongful denials of medical benefits ‘would be to completely undermine' federal law regulating employee benefits, Assistant Solicitor General James A. Feldman said at oral argument March 23. Moreover, the administration's brief attacked the policy rationale for Texas's law, which is similar to statutes on the books in nine other states."

3. Tobacco Buyout

BUSH SUPPORTS CURRENT TOBACCO FARMERS' QUOTA SYSTEM... "They've got the quota system in place -- the allotment system -- and I don't think that needs to be changed."

...BUSH ADMINISTRATION WILL SUPPORT FEDERAL BUYOUT OF TOBACCO QUOTAS "The administration is open to a buyout."

4. North Korea

BUSH WILL NOT OFFER NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM... "We developed a bold approach under which, if the North addressed our long-standing concerns, the United States was prepared to take important steps that would have significantly improved the lives of the North Korean people. Now that North Korea's covert nuclear weapons program has come to light, we are unable to pursue this approach." <PRESIDENT'S 02 15 11 Statement,

...BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFERS NORTH KOREA INCENTIVES TO DISARM"Well, we will work to take steps to ease their political and economic isolation. So there would be -- what you would see would be some provisional or temporary proposals that would only lead to lasting benefit after North Korea dismantles its nuclear programs. So there would be some provisional or temporary efforts of that nature."

5. Abortion

BUSH SUPPORTS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE... "Bush said he...favors leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question."

...BUSH OPPOSES A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE "I am pro-life."

6. OPEC

BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES... "What I think the president ought to do is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price."

...BUSH REFUSES TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the United States at the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president refused to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds."

7. Iraq Funding

BUSH SPOKESMAN DENIES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE REST OF 2004... "We do not anticipate requesting supplemental funding for '04"

...BUSH REQUESTS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IRAQ FOR 2004 "I am requesting that Congress establish a $25 billion contingency reserve fund for the coming fiscal year to meet all commitments to our troops."

8. Condoleeza Rice Testimony

BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS RICE WON'T TESTIFY AS 'A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE'... "Again, this is not her personal preference; this goes back to a matter of principle. There is a separation of powers issue involved here. Historically, White House staffers do not testify before legislative bodies. So it's a matter of principle, not a matter of preference."

...BUSH ORDERS RICE TO TESTIFY: "Today I have informed the Commission on Terrorist Attacks Against the United States that my National Security Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, will provide public testimony."

9. Science

BUSH PLEDGES TO ISSUE REGULATIONS BASED ON SCIENCE..."I think we ought to have high standards set by agencies that rely upon science, not by what may feel good or what sounds good."

...BUSH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS IGNORE SCIENCE "60 leading scientists-including Nobel laureates, leading medical experts, former federal agency directors and university chairs and presidents-issued a statement calling for regulatory and legislative action to restore scientific integrity to federal policymaking. According to the scientists, the Bush administration has, among other abuses, suppressed and distorted scientific analysis from federal agencies, and taken actions that have undermined the quality of scientific advisory panels."

10. Ahmed Chalabi

BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS...President Bush also met with Chalabi during his brief trip to Iraq last Thanksgiving

...BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE "U.S. soldiers
raided the home of America's one-time ally Ahmad Chalabi on Thursday and seized documents and computers."

11. Department of Homeland Security

BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So, creating a Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still will have agencies within the federal government that have to be coordinated. So the answer is that creating a Cabinet post doesn't solve anything."

...BUSH SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY "So tonight, I ask the Congress to join me in creating a single, permanent department with an overriding and urgent mission: securing the homeland of America and protecting the American people."

12. Weapons of Mass Destruction

BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories...for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them."

...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce weapons.And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll find out."

13. Free Trade

BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we promote trade, and when we promote trade, it will help workers on both sides of this issue."

...BUSH SUPPORTS RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision largely driven by his political advisers, President Bush set aside his free-trade principles last year and imposed heavy tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling mills in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his reelection."

14. Osama Bin Laden

BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'"

...BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is.You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about him."

15. The Environment

BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... ", Governor Bush will work to...establish mandatory reduction targets for emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon dioxide."

...BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe, however, that the government should impose on power plants mandatory emissions reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant' under the Clean Air Act."

16. WMD Commission

BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE... "The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond reports already being assembled by congressional committees and the Central Intelligence Agency."

...BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE "Today, by executive order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired by Governor and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about weapons of mass destruction."

17. Creation of the 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11."


...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION "President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks."

18. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have decided to oppose granting more time to an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks."

...BUSH SUPPORTS TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The White House announced Wednesday its support for a request from the commission investigating the September 11, 2001 attacks for more time to complete its work."

19. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony

BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR... "President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have placed strict limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said Wednesday."

...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR TESTIMONY "The president's going to answer all of the questions they want to raise. Nobody's watching the clock."

20. Gay Marriage

BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into."

...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife."

21. Nation Building

BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road."

...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people."

22. Saddam/al Qaeda Link

BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror."

...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11."

23. U.N. Resolution

BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip count is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up and say what their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of the United Nations Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for people to show their cards, to let the world know where they stand when it comes to Saddam."

...BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE "At a National Security Council meeting convened at the White House at 8:55 a.m., Bush finalized the decision to withdraw the resolution from consideration and prepared to deliver an address to the nation that had already been written."

24. Involvement in the Palestinian Conflict

BUSH OPPOSES SUMMITS... "Well, we've tried summits in the past, as you may remember. It wasn't all that long ago where a summit was called and nothing happened, and as a result we had significant intifada in the area."

...BUSH SUPPORTS SUMMITS "If a meeting advances progress toward two states living side by side in peace, I will strongly consider such a meeting. I'm committed to working toward peace in the Middle East."

25. Campaign Finance

BUSH OPPOSES MCCAIN-FEINGOLD... "George W. Bush opposes McCain-Feingold...as an infringement on free expression."

...BUSH SIGNS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD INTO LAW "his bill improves the current system of financing for Federal campaigns, and therefore I have signed it into law."

26. 527s

Bush opposes restrictions on 527s: "I also have reservations about the constitutionality of the broad ban on issue advertising , which restrains the speech of a wide variety of groups on issues of public import."

…Bush says 527s bad for system: "I don't think we ought to have 527s. I can't be more plain about it…I think they're bad for the system. That's why I signed the bill, McCain-Feingold."

27. Medical Records

Bush says medical records must remain private: "I believe that we must protect…the right of every American to have confidence that his or her personal medical records will remain private."

…Bush says patients' histories are not confidntial: The Justice Department…asserts that patients "no longer possess a reasonable expectation that their histories will remain completely confidential."

28. Timelines For Dictators
Bush sets timeline for Saddam: "If Iraq does not accept the terms within a week of passage or fails to disclose required information within 30 days, the resolution authorizes 'all necessary means' to force compliance--in other words, a military attack."

…Bush says he's against timelines: "I don't think you give timelines to dictators."

29. The Great Lakes
Bush wants to divert great lakes: "Even though experts say 'diverting any water from the Great Lakes region sets a bad precedent' Bush 'said he wants to talk to Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chrétien about piping water to parched states in the west and southwest.'-

Bush says he'll never divert Great Lakes: "We've got to use our resources wisely, like water. It starts with keeping the Great Lakes water in the Great Lakes Basin...My position is clear: We're never going to allow diversion of Great Lakes water."

30. Winning The War On Terror

Bush claims he can win the war on terror: "One of the interesting things people ask me, now that we're asking questions, is, can you ever win the war on terror? Of course, you can."

…Bush says war on terror is unwinnable: "I don't think you can win ."

…Bush says he will win the war on terror: "Make no mistake about it, we are winning and we will win ."

When any RWinger spouts that the shrub is resolute just hand them this list.
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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 05:53 PM
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10. Wow! Thanks for that list.
It looks like you put a lot of work into it.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:13 AM
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12. Great list
you should make this into another thread. Thanks.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:35 AM
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13. Good list!
Kinda makes Kerry look like an amateur in the flip-flop arena.
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 09:10 AM
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15. Great list - do you have the references for when and where?
I have a hard time believing he ever said he was pro-choice, but given the way he lies, it's certainly possible.

I'd really appreciate links and/or references.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:49 AM
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17. This should remain posted thru November!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 05:49 PM
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9. * allowed Ptech / GoAgilent to go forward during 9-11 too
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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-12-06 08:37 PM
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11. Everything this clown does cries for impeachment.
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:04 AM
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14. Don't forget back when China held one of our spy planes
It seems like a long time ago, but remember when one of our spy planes went down over/near China in early 2001, and the plane and crew were taken hostage? Bush was unable to get China to give the plane back. Eventually, after China had pulled the plane apart and gotten all the technical information they could, the plane was shipped back to the US... at our expense.

The concept that Bush is a "tough guy" and "doesn't back down" is just bullshit marketing and campaign spin.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:47 PM
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18. Luckily the crew had 'ditched' most sensitive electronics first...
from what I remember about the incident, which involved some hotdogging by a foolish Chinese pilot (who got himself killed by flying UNDER the planes wing, where, oops, the US pilot suddenly banked into his cockpit).

This was the same style mission that probes potential enemie's airspace and seeks to 'light up' air defenses, as with numerous Cold War missions into Soviet airspace, some resulting in downed aircraft and men taken prisoner. The history of this is fascinating. Diplomacy is sorely lacking.

Maybe the planes should have Wal-Mart markings on them instead, however.
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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 08:32 PM
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19. You are right.
We just can not let them forget anything.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:09 AM
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16. Democratic Administration, eight years of Peace and Prosperity
Republican Control endless War and Debt.. Fool me Once shame on you Fool me twice and I must be a Republican...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 08:39 PM
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20. Confession
I stole that list from a post here on DU. When I coppied it I regretfully did not copy off the poster's name who posted it. I apologize to whoever posted that first. Can I get some forgiveness?
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