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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 01:57 AM
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Rant! I do not understand the shock from people when John McCain
says something in line with the Republicans!! Let me repeat this! John McCain is a conservative Republican who supported Bush in the last election!! OK? People are expecting too damn much out of McCain ever since he and Feingold *worked together* on McCain-Feingold. Since then people have somehow made him out to be a liberal. YES, McCain will work with people on the opposite side of the isle, but it does not make him a Moderate Republican!! Please everyone, get over it!!

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:00 AM
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1. got it!
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:01 AM
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2. Thank you! God damn it!!
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:07 AM
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11. Not to change the subject but,
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 02:09 AM by kster
What does God say when he gets pissed, "Me Damn it" or "God Damn it" I'm just curious what you think,and yes I have had a few beers.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:09 AM
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13. Probably just "Damn it". That's all he has to say .............
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:18 AM
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18. I think your right
because he already knows hes pissed, So he wouldn't have to add his name to make the point.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:02 AM
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3. Who gives a flying twat what McMain does? I'll never vote for him.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:03 AM
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5.  I sure as hell don't. I just thought I would say my piece! God damn it!
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:10 AM
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16. Well damn it the hell, you said it!!! LOL
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:02 AM
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4. Thanks for the 'minder. There WAS once upon a time...
But NO WAY I could ever look that man in face (let alone vote for him as dogcatcher) when he kissed *'s ass after all the mean and underhanded POD the * campaign laid on his ass.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:06 AM
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10. Yep. W's swiftboaters launched a personal attack on his wife
and McCain hugs him? I'd support Donald Duck before I'd support McCain. He lost all honor to me.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:03 AM
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6. I know some Dems who like McCain
"He's a Republican I can live with", they say. That's the problem.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:05 AM
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7. I can understand it too. But they have to know the his record.
God damn it!

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:27 PM
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33. Most people don't know squat about voting records
They just think he looks like a nice guy, which he does if you ignore his record.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:06 AM
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9. Why? Do they care how he votes? He is an arch conservative and is anti
choice! As a woman, I sure as hell couldn't "live with him" ! Argh!
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Texacrat Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:10 AM
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15. Bush was a Republican they could live with
Never forget that.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:05 AM
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8. Have you seen McCain's 2008 campaign poster?


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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:09 AM
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12. W knocks McCains wife and family, then he hugs W in an embrace
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 02:09 AM by Erika
of love. The sickos.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:53 AM
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30. I think it is totally sicko
too. And people trying to justify that? Nope. It is heil massa. And it stinks. Thanks for agreeing.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:14 AM
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17. That's jacked up Repuke bull there. I'll tell you that right now.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:23 AM
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20. that is freaking sad
Like love your dom?
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Texacrat Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:09 AM
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14. Thank you. I bet you the same people who supported McCain supported Bush
in 1999 (and during some parts of his first administration when Bush was uber popular)
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:22 AM
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19. McCain's as "moderate" as Bob Dole or...
Barry Goldwater.

What a lot of people just don't get is that politcs is the art of compromise. But McCain gets it, just like the other true conservatives who know they have to make deals and can't get their way all the time. Fight like hell on the Senate floor and scream to anyone who'll listen, but then go out for a beer with the opposition after the vote's over.

Even though he'll do the right thing once in a while, he's not our hero. He's just a conservative politician. The kind of conservative we need more of, btw, instead of the my-way-or-the-highway neocons running the show now.





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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:25 AM
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22. take a look
at the kiss ass photo. That is just SICK! The wild eyed allowing the peon who his operative tried to destroy give him a big hug? If that is "politics" we are all in big trouble. Someone needs a moral yardstick.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:37 AM
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24. Doesn't bother me a bit, because...
McCain's doing what's best for McCain, and that's pretty much par for the course for any politician.

Politix is ugly and messy and once in every 10 years or so you can do something genuinely worhwhile without the fetid bullshit that goes with the job. Most of the time, though, you're at the mercy of powerful forces.

Here, bygones have to be bygones because McCain wants to keep his Senate seat, get pork and goodies for Arizona, and maybe run for President. Dissing the most powerful person in his party is not the way to make any of them any easier.

So, you suck it up and pretend to love the guy who cut you off at the knees, because that's just the way it is. Besides, Shrub will be out of a job soon enough, and McCain and his party will be around long after Shrub has left his mess to be cleaned up.

Ya gotta think long-term if you're gonna survive.



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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:40 AM
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26. k. well scuse me.
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 03:42 AM by votesomemore
I thought politicians were elected representatives of the PEOPLE. What is best for McCain?
WHO GIVES A SHIT!

It certainly is ugly and messy. And I'm in favor of cleaning it up. Call me idealistic.

I'm all into group hugs, but that one is just sicko. I'm not changing my mind.
I've always liked McCain. But that pic makes me want to puke.

I have problems in real life too. It isn't just politics. I don't understand where people are coming from. I'm more like the Beatles. Let it Be and Peace, baby. So. I'm out of the loop. Obviously.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:51 AM
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29. nice cynical view point
and how is that working out for DeLay? It's the big boys game? I suggest we stand firm against that bullshit.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 04:17 AM
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31. And there you have the perfect example of how a career pol thinks.
It's all about him. His future. His survival. His place at the pork trough. What career politicians forget is WHAT THEY ARE THERE FOR. What they are there to do. Service to the country, to the constituents who elected them, not service to their own self-aggrandizing career success. And that idea that you only get to do something good every 10 years or so is an acceptance of a bar so low that it is why we get such mediocre people in politics. Bleeh.
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juliana24 Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:42 AM
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27. McCain= loose cannon on the deck.
He has temper tantrums that should make any sane person NOT vote for him.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:24 AM
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21. I'll never forget McCain selling out during the 2004 elections..
the swift boat jerks were lying their asses off and McCain says bush needs to come out against it..demand the ads be pulled.

Bush never did and a week later he's out on the campaign trail with the chimperor. :grr:

At one time I would have voted for McCain had he gotten the nomination, but not now...not ever! The man is a repuke to the bones and he will pander to the RW extremist base.

Don't trust him or believe him, folks.
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LizMoonstar Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:29 AM
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23. i'm asking for trouble, but
mccain was a moderate pre-bush. i'd like to see what the man thinks when he doesn't kiss ass anymore. i think that, despite the lameness of the asskissing, he may have the potential to return from the dark side, as it may not be his true beliefs. politicians have to be pragmatic sometimes, which sucks but is the truth in today's culture.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 03:49 AM
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28. he is pandering
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 03:50 AM by votesomemore
to someone who tried to slaughter him. What do we call that? Victimization? Look at the wild eyed look in George's eyes. And McCain is embracing that? I call that very sick. If that's the best we can come up with we are in real trouble. See Hitler. Maybe he was drunk. That would excuse it. Nothing else. He is hugging the monster of the currenct universe? I think he needs to be a little more selective. I liked him. Until he became George's slave.
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 02:50 AM
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25. And he's also as hawkish as they come. n/t
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 05:52 AM
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32. When he ran the first time. this happened
My lawyer and I got talking about McCain. And we came up with this. Likable but he just had no back bone and could not tell the truth. He sticks a finger up and goes what ever way the wind blows. He may feel he was born to rule but I think not.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 12:29 PM
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34. I expect nothing from him since he skated on the Keating Five
Scandal. He is a part of the Corruption in the Beltway.
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