Tin Foil Hat time: Were the Notes pin to the Miners planted?

Maybe by the mine company to lessen settlement amounts?

Okay, go ahead and laugh at me now.

Reminds me of that Russian nuclear submarine which was destroyed under very, very mysterious circumstances- the Kursk. Seamen onboard had time to write notes to their loved ones. I know if I knew I was going to die the only thing on my mind, aside from getting the hell out of there, of course, would be to try to let my family know that at least I did not suffer like so many do as they leave this world.

PB

:shrug: Can you explain?

found with Notes pin to them that said they did not suffer.

I read that one said something similar to "I died peacefully." Which, being the literal society we are, makes one pause. But they seemed like genuine (and gruesome) attempts by the miners to comfort people they cared for.

Here's one of the notes, fwiw

In many situations, in which people know they are going to die, and have the time, they will write last notes to loved ones. I know that if I were in that situation, I would try to write something to my wife and daughter. Why should they be any different?

Nor will the notes lessen any settlement. In fact, a smart lawyer could use them for a better settlement by showing how strong the bonds of affection were that were destroy by the carelessness of the company.

Your CT has NO MERIT AT ALL. It is simply concocting a CT for the sake of having one.

Prediction: Now that I have attacked your CT, you will cling to it more strongly and defend it against any rational attack.

Just putting it out there.

Considering that they died on the job, doing a job that helps put electricity in our homes, and that their final act was a noble attempt to give some peace of mind to their loved one, your attempt to gin up a conspiracy theory here is more than insulting, it's perverse. Just putting that out there, too.

Some people aren't happy, though, until there's some sordid explanation behind every tragedy. I'm a Katrina survivor. I stayed away from DU for three weeks after we got our power back on, because I didn't want to read this kind of tripe.

It's perfectly irrational.

sorry, not taking the bait.

That's funny. You want to turn it around so that you are victimized in this thread? LOL. So authentically DU.

It would be one thing if the OP was standing outside the homes of the victims' family members saying that, but it's another thing posting it on DU.


"insulting to the memory of people who just died"

How do you insult a "memory" in the first place?

posts I've ever seen. People will, indeed, often try to write a note to families when they're in a situation such as that and they know they're likely to die. Remember the PA miners who were rescued a few years ago? They were trapped for three days and really thought they were going to die before being rescued. They wrote goodbye notes to their families and put them in their lunch buckets so that they would be found.

And exactly when were the notes supposed to have been pinned to them? Were they handed to the rescuers before they set out on their mission, when they were in full view of the media? Were they snuck to the coroner as each body was brought out of the mine? Did they get samples of each miner's handwriting from their families, hire handwriting experts, and have them fake each note, which would have had to have all been done before the rescuers even set out on their mission? Please. Can we be a little less ridiculous and use a little more common sense?

And as for the purpose of lessening a settlement-the mine had over two hundred safety violations just in the past year and officials did absolutely zero to correct them. The mine was even forced to shut down for safety reasons FIFTEEN times in the past year, an unprecedented number since the feds rarely shut down mines even when the violations are pretty bad. There's more than enough to hang them on, such "lessening" effects would hardly have made a difference, even if this were the Twilight Zone in Bizarro World, which is the only place where your ridiculous theory would even be possible.

And since I would think their family members would recognize their handwriting, I'll say no.

that the family would recognize as their speech pattern.

I think I am more amazed that they actually had pen and paper with them down there than I am that they thought to leave a message at all.

Hmmmm .... :shrug:

If I were in those miners' position, I would have written a farewell note to my family. The notes will have absolutely no impact on litigation.

Occam's razor. Perhaps the most rational explanation is the correct one.

as the worst of DU.

Steven P.

when I heard the clip. Because this company's credibility is zip and because under Bush, the regulation of this industry is close to zip.

I'd never believe that in a million years. It makes absolutely no sense. Quit giving Tin foil hatters a bad name.

But, the delay in announcing the deaths might have given the company time to make sure no negative sounding notes saw the light of day. Given everything that happened, that level of cynicism is not necessarily outrageous.

All the guys wrote notes. Miner's do write notes...could be writing without light and also because they died from CM poisoning. They did, just go to sleep. By that time they knew there was NO time left for a rescue. They would also be suffering from lack of oxygen...all makes for bad writing. The men only had one hour of oxygen in their tank, took too long for the rescue.

These are very brave men, well aware of what can happen anytime in their line of work.
Unions and safety standards, are a must have!

:cry:

How would a farewell note lessen the culpability of any party?