What if Giuliani ran in 08 as an independent

would you vote for him I'm curious could he be contemplating this why take a party's baggage with you when your as popular as he is

I hope there's a third party conservative in the race, that would rock.

So I would question his true motives.

and wonder what he's up too.

Shit, kid, you may as well posted "I LUVS me some John McCain!"

And who is he "popular" with? I'm very curious about that.

BTW, welcome aboard!

to think he could Run with-out the help of the Party and I think he is also worried about the Christan vote but believes he is popular with southerners so he might toy with the independent idea

Maybe he can pick Bernie "Zap!" Kerik for a running mate?

But you know, I really don't give a rat's ass about 2008. Hillary, McCain, Kerry, Dole, Rudi, all that NOISE right now.

The thing we should be concentrating on RIGHT now is this impending mid-term House election this November. If we take back the House and maybe the Senate, too, it's a Brand New Day. If we fail to pry the Legislative out of the hands of the RW ReTHUGs, then why worry about '08? Even if we get a Dem in the OO, they won't be able to do anything except host state dinners and roll Easter eggs.

Take back the HOUSE, and the Oval Orifice will take care of itself.

Disgusting

http://screwedbyRudy.blogspot.com
and that's just my beef. Rudy is popular off the backs of dead people. Ask him "why did you sell off crime scene evidence so quickly?" that WTC steel would have indicted many high profile people including King George the Imbecile.
No Rudy is not presidential material, sorry..jmho

mate if McCain is nominated.

they care for him much down there and yeah they say they love rudy but i think they like him as the mayor of NYC only.

but I've heard that they are pretty close and with Rudy and McCain's support among Indies he could make ground up in the NE and perhaps carry a few states that may be Democratic leaning. The south is so Republican that most of those states would vote Republican anyway--but it depends on who the Dems nominate. If someone like Warner is nominated or even Clark we might gain some ground in the south if it's someone like Hillary we would probably lose most southern states again.

3. Firefighters lost their lives on 9/11 due to faulty equipment, such as radios. These were the same radios that failed in 1993. Who was in charge of buying and testing equipment for the firefighters? During your administration were there any requests by either the NYPD or FDNY to increase budget appropriations for emergency apparatus such as radios?
http://911independentcommission.org/giuliani31804.html

a lot of 9/11 families will bring this up imo and hold him responsible for those radios.

so he could continue boinking the woman he cheated on his wife with.

family values my ass. Guiliani is a joke. his only high point was looking good on TV post-9/11.
Remember he floated the trial baloon of suspending his leaving office because 9/11 changed everything?

he is a Bush in cheap clothing.

The only thing he's got going for him is the same thing the Bush ran on. His 9/11 PR. And we've seen how bad things have gotten with Bush. Does anyone seriously think Guiliani would be an improvment? Opportunists all of them!

his wife. The Wingers frequently overlook Republican adultery when they tout their "family values" banner, but Rudy actually living with a gay couple is another matter entirely. Heads would spin.

BEFORE he even told his wife about it. She heard about it on TV.

he has the Pat Robertson fundamentalist stamp of approval.

google Pat Robertson on Rudy Giuliani.

Isn't he pro-choice and pro-gay rights? Not to mention the whole divorce thing.

I wouldn't vote for him if he was a Democrat


something about him just creeps me out

comments at the RNC and you'll understand.

But I'd love to see him run as an independent. Even Diebold couldn't save the Pukes then.

:shrug:

Rudy in drag.

My Sister lives in New York and said that NY was ran like a police state when he was in office. I'm a yellow dog but my neighbors are not nor are my co-workers They are not happy with the current republican party. but I don't see them voting Democratic however a Republican going independent could get a lot of votes.

But mostly he's a sleazebag.

Aside from that, I don't know anything about him.

wife cheating, lying SOB!

i would love it if he ran as an indy.

Did you hear Jay Leno last night he said GOP stands for Get Out of Prison
I loved it

so he may very well do the indy thing. Especially if Jeb Bush runs with Condi, and McCain and Rudy run as indies. I think that McCain + Rudy would be the best ticket for the GOP to run. I think that Gore is our bet, forcasting the landscape out in to 2008. Peace and low stress, mdmc

Nor would I expect he would do that.

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Satan.

Or Jebbie.

if he did run it would be a good thing for our team.

We don't back Republicans here, even if they try to fool us by registering as independents.

No, the RW fundies would never vote for him--enough said

BUT... and this is a big BUT... By late 2007, I have a feeling that there will be such a groundswell for COMPETENCE (and like it or not, Giuliani has a largely undeserved, but strong perception of competence) that he could pull fiscal conservatives, libertarian types and just about every one from the right side of the aisle except the "values" voters. Split the Repug vote and clear sailing for us, right?

Well, given the continued miscues from our DEMS, we will likely have to face up to a belligerent media that wants to focus on DEMS as spineless (not without some cause, mind you)) and unwilling to take a stand If they effectively push the point, we could have many disillusioned Dems and independents taking a second look at Giuliani and quite possibly giving him the margin he would need.

So, yeah. I'm damned concerned about Giuliani. Admittedly though, between him and McCain, I'd probably take Giuliani myself...

His 911 reaction was easy. He had the World behind him.

And his personal life was a mess. His wife has some terrible things to say about their marriage and like it or not these things matter, ask the big dog about personal life and politics.

His ties with the mafia are also a terrible burden hes carrying.

largely manufactured. However, it is a commonly held perception--that he "led" NYC through its most horrendous hour... While I doubt many, if any DUers retain that perception, among the less politically aware and informed, he probably retains the advantage.

It's all the uptight chicks he gets to bang when he shows them his 911 etchings...

He doesn't deserve my vote, that's for damn sure.

he's an opportunistic piece of shit.

That means I'm going to vote for a democrat. Not that hard of a concept really.

:patriot:

:patriot:

the way that John Anderson, a moderate to liberal republican who ran in 1980 as an Independent, took more votes away from Jimmy Carter (costing him states like NY, WI, MA, ect) than he did Ronald Reagan.

What's so great about that?

Please, this is ridiculous.