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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:55 AM
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Some Bush crowds are screened better than others
Bluffing his way through questions from rowdy seniors at a retirement community yesterday...

Bush got a laugh when he naively suggested car buyers know from the outset what they will pay. One man gave Bush unsolicited advice about greenhouse gases and another held his feet to the fire on nuclear proliferation.
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He got a bit tripped up when making the comparison to vehicle shopping — something he has not done for years.

"When you go buy a car, you know exactly what they're going to charge you," he said, drawing laughs — and then adjusting his remarks.

"Well, sometimes you don't know," he said. "Well, you negotiate with them. Well, they put something on the window that says price."


Bush did not even get to finish on a softball.....


That's a decent impersonation of Jon Stewart impersonating Bush impersonating a president.

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:57 AM
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1. Ug...he is so stupid!!!!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:59 AM
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2. What an embarrassment he is to our country........
no wonder the rest of the world thinks we're ignorant fools, look at our "leader"! :puke:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:59 AM
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3. I used to mingle with the residents
of a nursing home my father was in months before he died. You do not want to debate those folks or tell them lies or try to pull anything over on them, in other words you don't want to be a republican. They live very simple lifes where truth abounds. They don't need to lie.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:04 PM
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4. * was raised thinking the "Rabble" was ignorant.
He really does believe he is intellectually superior to the common man. Which obviously means he thinks we are remarkably stupid, LOL. He has been taught from childhood by his parents that is so, there are "a bunch of untutored little jerks out there".
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:09 PM
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5. Once more Dimson proves the "haves" haven't a clue
How any of the have-nots can support such blatant ignorance of their reality is beyond me.
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:25 PM
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6. I'm sure his handlers just assumed
that all the white-haired ones are feeble-minded and didn't need to be screened too carefully. Surprise, surprise... :) I heard that some of them were retired scientists who challenged him on global warming.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:32 PM
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9. This guy brought up global warming and bush lied in his face
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"I'm one of the scientists who believes that — and many of us do — the greenhouse gases have been caused by us, and that it's about time that the United States took serious actions on the prevention of further greenhouse gases," one man told Bush.

"I exactly agree with you, sir, and that's exactly what we're doing," the president replied.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:27 PM
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7. cause ya see, the new car has a sticker, and that's your price
Do you think this silly bastard has ever bought a car himself?
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:46 PM
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8. He can afford to buy a car that way.
Maybe he has.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:14 AM
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10. Here's more about this appearance.
Faced with a persistent questioner who asked him what could be done to help her elderly mother understand Medicare's new prescription drug plan, President Bush offered a suggestion that at first elicited shocked gasps, and then supportive applause, from an audience of retirees in Silver Spring yesterday.

"Look, I'm not going to tell you your business, but I think it's your responsibility to help your mom," Bush told Wendy Meyeroff. She had asked him to consider extending the May 15 deadline for registering for the new benefit without a penalty, but Bush refused.

"No," he said. "And the reason why is there's got to be a fixed time for people to sign up."
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Meyeroff, who questioned Bush about her mother, said she didn't "totally disagree with him. But that's not a good answer for everyone." A health editor for Erickson Retirement Communities, which owns Riderwood, Meyeroff said she was speaking on her own behalf.

Audience member Alan Mayers, a retired federal worker, said Bush's answer didn't account for seniors who don't have help from a child. "I think that was a little bit heartless, but consistent with the general approach of the administration toward safety nets," he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/15/AR2006031501575_pf.html

She asked him a question, and he delegated responsibility back to her!
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:30 AM
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11. sure!
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, like me!

I'm sure that someone who could master a story about a goat could traverse the landmines of the new Medicare prescription plans. Of course he'll be doing that for mommy dearest himself!


Cher
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:18 PM
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15. There's no frickin way that idiot could explain the Medicare
program to anyone.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:41 AM
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12. Why isn't that on TV? -- More to learn than at a SOTU speech
Impromptu Dubya is very revealing.

MSM, at least the TV division, doesn't want to make life complicated.

Now, drink your Kool-Aid.

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 08:38 AM
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13. I agree. This should have gotten some play. The "heartless" comment
alone could open a conversation about repubs' predisposition across the board- one late in coming and necessary. The media veers hard away from that one, tax cuts being so damn cute, and all.
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:16 PM
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14. They Were Not Fooled Because They Learned About Issues in the Real World
The greatest audience in the world, not only for Democrats but for the truth, is an audience full of smart old people, discussing the issues they care about. Older people do not realize that they do not really care about the issues and do not vote on logic or their needs. They do not realize that actually, they are all mindless sheeple who react like puppets to catchphrases and visuals, and only have emotions that can be commercially jerked around by consultants and strategists--so they don't act like it. The only signs of life for the past several years among Democrats protesting Bush/Republican domestic policies, have come from old people, taking no cues from anybody: they rose up and killed the attempt to commercialize Social Security, they did not support the corporate ("Medicare") drug "plan" enrollment, have not been doing it, and have been complaining loud and clear about what a horrific failure the whole mess is. This is the generation that made a living virtue of civic responsibility, educating themselves on Good Government, all pitching in and helping, and cutting through all the crap to answer a question straight.

The stupid Bush "car price" example here reminds me of when Bush'a father, also a rich, cold prick, went into a supermarket around 1991, and was so "amazed" at the scanners used at the checkout, even though they had been around for years--so cut off are these rich people from the way "we" live. The corporate media covered that one up, too.

The best comeback lines tend to come from that generation, whether the older people who are still around, or going back to old quotes from Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt, Harry Truman, etc., because if Republicans start up their game-playing and lies, these older people just straightforwardly tell them to knock it off and go to hell. My wonderful parents taught me what morals and honesty are, and that Republicans never have it.
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