Democrats have been buzzing about comments made by state Sen. Nancy Schaefer (R-Turnerville, Georgia Republican legislator ) at a recent eggs-and-issues breakfast in Hart County. We quote from the Hartwell Sun newspaper: "Commenting on illegal immigration, Schaefer said 50 million abortions have been performed in this country, causing a shortage of cheap American labor. 'We could have used those people,' she said."

about half way down the page.....

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/insider/stories/030606.html


here is a link to the Hartwell Sun newspaper article.....


50th District Senator Nancy Schaefer, who serves on the economic development committee, mentioned jobs, industry and tourism as issues needing attention. She said we need to “make Georgia a destination.”

Commenting on illegal immigration, Schaefer said 50 million abortions have been performed in this country, causing a shortage of cheap American labor. “We could have used those people,” she said.


http://www.thehartwellsun.com/articles/2006/03/01/news/news05.txt

and here is Senator Nancy Schaefer.....note: she was Republican Nominee, Lieutenant Governor

Current Office: State Senator
Current District: 50
First Elected: 11/02/2004
Next Election: 2006
Party: Republican

Committees:
Banking and Financial Institutions
Economic Development
Ethics
Retirement, Secretary
Special Judiciary

Education:
Diploma, Toccoa High School.

Professional Experience:
President/Founder, Family Concerns, Incorporated, 1986-present
President/Founder, Citizens for Public Awareness, Incorporated
Lobbyist, Southern Baptist Convention.

Political Experience:
Senator, Georgia State Senate, 2004-present
Candidate, Georgia State Senate, District 50, 2000
Candidate, Governor of Georgia, 1998
Republican Nominee, Lieutenant Governor, 1994
Vice Chair, Habersham Republican Party.


more.....

http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=MGA11993

and even more lovely comments from Ms.Nancy Schaefer

Senator Nancy Schaefer spoke these words in the State Senate Chamber in The Capitol of Georgia, on March 24, 2004.

Thank you - Mr. President. I rise for a point of personal privilege.

Tuesday morning - of this week, we began our Senate session with a message delivered by the Chaplain of the Day. His text was taken from Matthew 14 about King Herod and how the authority of that day had lost their conscience to the point of calling for the head of John the Baptist on a platter.

I believe the element that called for the head of John the Baptist was the same element that crucified Jesus Christ.

It is also the same element that is taking the life of Terri Schiavo.

As the authorities said it was legal in the day of John the Baptist and legal in the day of Jesus Christ, authorities today say it is legal to starve a living, breathing women to death in Florida.

The whole world is watching America commit the murder on national TV of a young woman who was never offered the first moment of rehabilitation by her husband who clearly abandoned her 12 years ago.

Is not our authority today calling for the head of Terri Schiavo?

http://www.priestsforlife.org/euthanasia/05-03-24senatorschaefer.htm

I have a feeling that won't play very well on Election Day.

coming out of the mouths of Republicans (particularly those in the South and lower Midwest)- rather than trying to assuage and pander to those types, they'd have won the majority back years ago.

But instead of making the contrast clear- and nationalizing the campaign, their "strategists" blur the lines... and seemingly choose to lose.

and in doing so, they are enraging the rest of the nation for their complete lack of effective leadership. This woman's remarks have no place in the state legislature - and she should be run out of office on a rail. . .

But I'm sure the Demos will be too afraid to even confront these statements.

against her (via commercials). How much more Racist could this scumbag be? And someone at the DNC should be coordinating getting moles into these conferences Nationwide to record the words of these nutjobs so we can use them against them.

against ALL Republicans with. Tar every last one of them. Who cares if it's demogoguery? Demogoguery works. And there's so much material out there to choose from... in their own words.

Associate it with them- and by implication, the people who vote for them.

That's what the far right's been doing for decades- guess what? It works.

The difference is, we don't have to be dishonest about it.

Call a spade a spade and lett thier candidates all over the country (and on the state and local level) go on the defensive and explain their lock step in barrel votes for a change.

every time they are in front of the camera. Bring this jughead and what she said up, and implicate the rest of the Reich wing by association. Every appearance on TV, every press conference. One of many talking points we could be using every day.

I could dream.:think:

we could use those people."

She laid it out on a SILVER platter, dressed, with Hors D'Oeuvres. "Wheeeeee! I just laid it all out for you! We only want a cheap, poor, disadvantaged, and desperate labor class to serve our entitled one! Since we can't enslave THEM anymore, we'll enslave their CLASS! Hahahah!"

As she hold up her glass of fine vintage champagne.

It's a meal. Let's eat.

HER.

Deprived of cheap American labor. Don't know where to begin with this one. Sickening.

Run that as a campgain commercial--it's the only one they'll need!

:rofl:
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This is how they think of the American people. x(

that one says it all!

And yes, there was no doubt in my mind that that is *exactly* how they see the American people. Schmucks!

That is why they have "Abstinence only" that is why they want to out law abortion. It's because they drive their economy with human blood. I have decided to not have children. that's right you fascists nazi Republic-cons, you can't have any more humans. If I ever have a child, it won't be in this fucked up country.



:rant:

I sure as hell won't be contributing any cheap labor OR soldiers to this country.

"They drive their economy with human blood."

Because....the draft is just around the corner. Just watch.

the return of the draft. Because in the real world the Republicans know our young men and women are struggling in Iraq but feel if they hold out long enough, the Democrats will do it. Yeah, a Democrat will do it because in all reality, they started this war telling the troops that as soon as they get to Baghdad they were going home. "Mission Accomplished" If this were true, what the hell are they all still doing over there?

I don't want it. All I have is a son (27) and three nephews (16, 19, 19). I have a grandson but thank the Good Lord he is only 3.

It's typical Republican agenda . . . start a mess and leave it for the Dems to clean it up.

I'm still pissed at all the Democratic Senators that voted to give this idiot the power for it all and now they are all bitching about it. They get on CSPAN and talk the talk, but when it comes to voting on certain issues, they vote completely opposite of what they say. What is up with that?

I love your avatar. Keanu rocks my world. I had one similar but I couldn't get it to work. I have not been able to get anything to work as far as an avatar that changes faces and/or words. I have asked for help over and over but no one responds. Oh well!

the problem is always the file size. It's difficult to do anything too fancy with out the file size getting too big. Mine works because it has only 2 colors, that helps keep the file size down. I wanted to use this avatar here but can't because it's file size is too big:


If you have any ideas, let me know, I can try and whip something together for ya!

Breed us up some soldiers moms! Seig Heil!

... we are 'human resources'.

"We could have USED those people ..."

What an apt choice of words.

that was the line that jumped out at me, too.

The contempt is real.

as we all know, cheap american labor is a lofty goal.
:sarcasm:

in the first place?

We didn't HAVE to outsource. We COULD have committed to creating the best educated, highest paid, longest lived, highest standard of living workforce in the world, but no. THEY want cheap, uneducated, at will, desperate workers so they can squeeze the most profit out of the market as possible at the lowest cost.

THAT is the origin of her comment- unmitigated, uncontrolled, fully-revealed GREED.

Freaking people are just freaking narcissistic bastards.. Oh we need cheap help boo-hoo.. What about the freaking parents who you are paying so badly now, this is their only option... KISS MY ASS!!!

I'm trying to find it...

it was about the gilded age, family value people bring their children to work, of course the kids never had a weight problem, because they worked 16hrs a day.

the irony that the country is headed backwards with workers rights and safety...

Be patriotic! 'Murka needs ditchdiggers and toilet scrubbers.

can't make 'em pop out cheap American labor.

'Murka needs CANNON FODDER!! That's all the purpose poor kids have. Send 'em off to get killed for the corporations. Disgusting!
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

who would educate them? What makes her think that they would be "skilled"?

There is a greater chance that the unwanted child would grow up to be anti social, and a criminal.

"There is a greater chance that the unwanted child would grow up to be anti social, and a criminal."- ergo, republican officials of the future

hotel maids, burger flippers, gardeners, day laborers, and such. Silly varun.

Thats all the government wants them for any way.

AND SO DAMN LITTLE FOR LIFE OUTSIDE OF IT.

:argh:

x(

These fuckers aren't "pro-life", they're pro-birth. After that they couldn't give a rat's ass--about the mother or the child.

"Yer on yer own, ladies! And hey, get pregnant again real soon now, ya hear?"

a few smacks, cut the cord, and it's off to Randroid paradise, Working Your Way Up and Stalking Frank Lloyd Wright and Snogging Greenspan and Erecting Billboards and other manly pursuits--all by the age of three!

Nancy Schaefer: GO TO THE OUTERMOST CIRCLE OF HELL WHERE YOU BELONG.

Oh, and FUCK YOU.

Where the f**k do I go to start my own country and get away from these oppressive religious twits?

and these Religious nuts can have their own country and destroy it....

but the reality is that there would be a lot of poor people, elderly, infirm, children and animals who would get stuck on the wrong side and be made to suffer. It's best that we all stay together :-(

knocking on our door, guns in hand.

Unfortunately, we have to defeat them here and now. Or their madness will follow us to the ends of the earth.

Or so I concluded on 11/3/04, hence I stayed in the US.

Aha, I found it. A must-read. Here's an excerpt:

like-minded areas BUT if Jesusland were just south of us we would need an army to protect our nation from their blood thirsty overlords.

come to Vermont and join the movement. http://www.vermontrepublic.org/
Ironically the red states need the blue states much more than the other way round. The only problem would be the neighborhood...full of aggressive red state troglodytes.

various groups - both local and out of state. She introduces legislation that some believe she has not written.

I always wondered what the sound of a person's last brain cell dying was - now i know.

those fetuses, had they been born and grown up, would have wanted to be paid a living wage, just like anybody else.

If you want workers, you have to pay 'em enough to live on, not merely subsist on.

but with their cuts in education and social programs, there is little doubt how they see it.

If you want workers, you have to pay 'em enough to live on, not merely subsist on.

Try telling that to Wal Mart.

edit: Even worse, she assumes that all of the unborn would be poor working class people. I suppose she thinks that no one in the middle or upper classes ever have abortions?

:scared:

Why do Nancy Schaefer-like people feel the need 2 broadcast their ignorance?

They are far more psycho than I had previously thought. I toyed with the idea of mentioning to Mr. Rubyduby that we should move to bring up the little one in a sane state, but now I think I will discuss it with him.

And they call us "loony"????? All you ever hear about is the Loony Left. I really want them referred to as the Psychotic Nutcase Right from now on.

Oh, and the point you make about her assuming that all abortions are from the poor working class. The poor working class of Georgia can't afford them. Only the middle and upper classes (such as they are). The poor continue to have the babies that usually end up on welfare, thereby creating all those "Welfare Queens" we hear them bitch about so much.

Their complete and utter ignorance scares the living hell out of me.

ps. Tell Mr. CB I said hi :hi:

not just in Georgia or the South. :scared:
We'd miss you here in GA if y'all ever moved. :(
The Psychotic Nutcase Right is my new term for them as well! ;)
I'll tell Mr. CB you said hello! :)
We were just talking about how fun our meetup was. I never seem to have time to talk to everyone though! The time goes so quickly! We'll meet in Athens soon! :hi:

but they can afford the cost of raising a human being for twenty years?

I'm sorry, but I don't get that. I would think that the costs of nine months of pregnancy alone would be much higher than the expense of terminating. And that's just the financial price.

do not have. Welfare does not pay for abortions.

in Margaret Atwood's Handmaid's Tale.
l
Never underestimate these people.

She knows the middle and upper classes will always have access to safe abortions, just like they did before Roe v. Wade. The burden will fall on the poor, just like it did before and just like it always does. That's what she WANTS, after all. Heartless goddam bitch.

past child-bearing age are useless too since they can't produce more little slaves. HMMH! I wonder how old she is.

no birthdate; graduation nothing - She has 13 grandchildren tho so I'm guessing she is beyond being useful to society in the production of cheap labor..

to say something like .... "Abortions no more, we need your Children for War" Or "Abortions no more, Cannon fodder needed for War" ........... or some stupid shit comment stating their true 'pro-life' agenda. They're getting closer I see. Peace.

"Conservatives want live babies so they can have dead soldiers."

who would have to work many more hours at menial, low paying jobs to raise the kid until it's old enough to get its own menial, low paying job

You never know. This might qualify as Worlds Worst candidate. :rofl:

Good move. :thumbsup:

The old white Republicans can rape their slaves (they already rape their children) and no abortion is available. Suddenly no labor problem. Yeah, that's the ticket!

values--everything can be tied back to cheap labor, cheap resources, and cheap production.

I forgot who did that. it was brilliant. If you apply it to almost everything conservatives stand for, it fits exactly.

like that?

victims who haven't found jobs are "lazy" and are "used to government assistance". Heard that on the corporate media yesterday. :argh:

Scaefer may be the stupidest one of them all. The competition is stiff, but...

immigration issues all rolled up into one sentence. You have to hand it to her, she's telling the truth as far as the Republicans see it. The rest of her cohorts dance around the issues, full of sound and fury....signifying nothing. She's only saying what's on all of their minds, disgusting as it may be. She hasn't learned the Republican art of lying yet, give her time!

What a mindless, vile, disgusting cretin this woman is! :grr:

unreal.

In a right to work state.

the local paper that if abortions had been kept illegal there would have been enough workers to pay into SS and to keep it afloat!

State Senate Chamber in The Capitol of Georgia, on March 24, 2004.
http://www.priestsforlife.org/euthanasia/05-03-24senatorschaefer.htm

'...I believe the element that called for the head of John the Baptist was the same element that crucified Jesus Christ.

It is also the same element that is taking the life of Terri Schiavo.

As the authorities said it was legal in the day of John the Baptist and legal in the day of Jesus Christ, authorities today say it is legal to starve a living, breathing women to death in Florida.

The whole world is watching America commit the murder on national TV of a young woman who was never offered the first moment of rehabilitation by her husband who clearly abandoned her 12 years ago.

Is not our authority today calling for the head of Terri Schiavo?

Would the authorities in Herod’s Day call for the head of Barabbas? Of course not.

Would the authorities today call for the starvation of a person on death row? Certainly not.

What is being done to Terri Schiavo would never be done to an animal....'

'What is being done to Terri Schiavo would never be done to an animal....'

Of course not because an animal would have been put down to end it's suffering before it got to that point.

by fellow RW Republicans. They would agree with her, after all. She didn't count on it getting into the news, and I'll bet it basically hasn't. If a DEMOCRAT had said something like this horrible thing, it would be national headlines.

It's up to us to keep pushing, to show these people for the heartless, greedy, criminal hypocrits they are.

She'd rather have servants born in Georgia? "It's just so HARD to find good help these days, boo-hoo!"

Somehow, I am having a lot of trouble working up sympathy for this woman's over-developed sense of entitlement to own slaves...

some office a few years back. Her campaign flyers said some crap about reclaiming the religion of our founding fathers -- one more RW bumblefuck with no idea that many of the founders were deists and borderline atheists who would have had nothing but contempt for the little dog and pony show that is southern fundamentalist christianity. Fuck her.

Genius, man! Pure Geeeeeeeeenius!

some 30 - 40mil a year as a down tick in all manner of things: cheap labor, contributors to SS, loss of 'white population', cannon fodder, the whole nine x(

maybe more. I'm still counting

You don't even have to dance for me.

:shrug:

oh, unthefuckingbelievable.

I really thought that I was immune to any surprises from these maniacs. I really thought that I had seen the worst and was prepared for anything they threw at us. I was convinced that they were about done shooting their wad (sans condom) and were now busy collecting the fallen sperm in order to continue propogating the master race and the master religion.

I was wrong.

It'd be the BEST workforce EVER!

Civic Report
No. 31 November 2002
Public School Graduation Rates in the United States

The report’s main findings are the following:

The national graduation rate for the public school class of 2000 was 69%.
White students: 76%
Asian: 79%
African-American: 55%;
Hispanic: 53%
Native Americans: 57%.

Florida’s public schools had the lowest overall graduation rate in the nation with 55% of students graduating, followed by Georgia, the District of Columbia, and Arizona.

New Jersey had the highest overall graduation rate with 87%, followed by North Dakota, Utah, and Iowa.

Wisconsin had the lowest graduation rate among African-American public school students with 41%, followed by Florida, Oregon, and Tennessee. The highest rate of graduation among African-American students was 74% in West Virginia, followed by Arkansas, Massachusetts, and Virginia.

Mississippi had the lowest graduation rate among Hispanic public school students with 23%, followed by New York, Oregon, and Florida. The highest rate of graduation among Hispanic students was 73% in Louisiana, followed by Wyoming, Hawaii, and Virginia.

Nebraska had the lowest graduation rate among Native American public school students with 40%, followed by Minnesota, Nevada, and Oregon. The highest rate of graduation among Native American students was 86% in Alabama, followed by Illinois, Oklahoma, and Texas.


Graduation rates for African-American, Hispanic, and Native American public school students were particularly low in a number of states; for each group there were six different states with graduation rates below 50%.

Rhode Island had the lowest graduation rate among Asian public school students with 66%, followed by Tennessee, Hawaii, and Massachusetts. The highest rate of graduation among Asian students was 95% in Illinois, followed by Missouri, Oklahoma, and Maryland.

Florida had the lowest graduation rate among white public school students with 60%, followed by Tennessee, Georgia, and Alaska. The highest rate of graduation among white students was 89% in North Dakota, followed by South Dakota, Nebraska, and Iowa.

The National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) finds a national high school completion rate of 86.5% for the class of 2000. The discrepancy between the NCES’ finding and this report’s finding of a 69% rate is largely caused by NCES’ counting recipients of General Educational Development (GED) certificates and other alternate credentials as high school graduates, and by its reliance on a methodology that is likely to undercount dropouts.

it all fits.

I always knew that the reason for the so-called "pro-life" platform of some politicians was their corporatist attitude of cheap labor and NOT LIFE!

Wait until they drop the bomb - literally? - that all those unwanted babies will be wonderful for military recruitment ala cannon fodder.

FUCK THEM!

woman say "Commenting on illegal immigration, Schaefer said 50 million abortions have been performed in this country, causing a shortage of cheap American labor. 'We could have used those people,' she said."
So why are corporations outsourcing so many Jobs, why are GM and Ford laying off so many if there is such a need for workers???

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2005_06/senate/schaeferbio.htm


email: nancy.schaefer@senate.ga.gov

"However, it is not in the best interest of the children, nor of this country, to remove children from foster care and put them in a homosexual environment."

"Evidence indicates homosexual parents often fall far short of the mark of responsible and caring behavior."

http://www.georgiaequality.org/cms/content/view/217/34

From her bio: "Nancy is the President and Founder of Family Concerns, Inc."

Woo-hoo! "Family" and "Concerns"--two fundie codewords in one organization! Dang, she's Xian-squared!

"She was Founder and President of the Family Concerns Pregnancy Center (1988-1998), which met the needs of over 5000 girls and women in the Atlanta area"

"met the needs of"... Uh-huh. Try "restricted the choices of" instead.

The "Pregnancy Center" probably ended when the Georgia Legislature stopped them from listing their brainwashing centers under "Abortion Services" in the Yellow Pages (yes, they really did used to do that, before they were stopped).

Re "She was Founder and President of the Family Concerns Pregnancy Center (1988-1998), which met the needs of over 5000 girls and women in the Atlanta area"

I'm sure that's way short of her goal, but hey--it's a start! :sarcasm:

WTF are we? Baby machines?

So tell me.. how do y'all feel to be witnessing the American Taliban in action? Pretty fucking scary, isn't it?

It's all about money, or not much money in this case. We need cheap labor - poor popping out unwanted kids is the key to Walmart's continued success.

It's Republicans like this that make the party what it is today - a bunch of whining simpletons!

This is the kind of people we're having to deal with down here...and the saddest thing of all that despite these kinds of statements their constituents not only agree with them, they're proud of it. Witness the fact that this story rated no more than the sixth item in a column - with no indication of embarrassment or criticism from the columnists.

With a rural, repig peckerwood for a governor we're now bragging about landing a KIA plant - BMW goes to South Carolina and Mercedes to Alabama and we get KIA - and what's even more embarrassing we gave them $400 million in taxes breaks, etc., for 4000 jobs, most of which will be people living in Alabama - Georgia pays for it and Alabama gets most of the bennies - we've already given away the tax revenue to get it, remember. And even more telling, less than half that number of incentives to GM and Ford would have kept Atlanta assembly plants operating - they're now scheduled to close - but you see those jobs are in Atlanta and this Governor don't do shit for Atlantans, just his peckerwood constituents. The only reason he bothered to even try to get the state to support Atlanta's bid for the NASCAR museum was, you guessed it, his peckerwood constituents would have to drive through his part of the state to get to it. You do know who NASCAR fans are don't you? Overweight, tattooed, tobacco chewing, beer swillers, and their husbands.

BWA HAHA HAHA!!!!
:rofl:

I came home one evening to find a message from her campaign asking all the white voters to vote for her since there were three black candidates to split the black vote, this was Atlanta's first opportunity to have a white mayor since the sixties. I kid you not.

I thought about calling local radio stations to play it on the air until she publicly said something similar during the debates and saved me the trouble. Someone should try to find a transcript of the debates from the 1992 Atlanta Mayoral race where she talks about the needs of the "white voters in North Atlanta".

What an embarrassment.

:puke:

Good grief - use people is right and for slave wages.:puke: :puke: :puke:

fearful, whiny, arrogant, big-mouthed, ignorant, selfish, and mean-spirited.

I've changed my mind.

I now think they're misinformed, fearful, whiny, arrogant, big-mouthed, ignorant, selfish, mean-spirited, AND EVIL!!! :grr:

nm

Of course it is not always a good indicator of intelligence.

Pro-life = code for "pro-cheap labor." I've finally got it!

...she has nothing but hypocrisy to stand behind.

You want a bunch of low income kids to be an underclass? Give birth to them yourself, and you can be the one who explains to them that you don't want the best for them. Promise them bread, give them stones.

Truly fucking pig scum.

During the great Plagues of the Middle Ages, so many people died, that labor on the lord's estates became harder and harder to find.

Suddenly, the surviving peasants realized that they were in demand. They could ask for more money and even have a choice of who they worked for and where they got to work. And they found their pay more lucrative, too.

A lot of historical sociologists point to this time as the decline of the feudal system and the empowering of the common man. Almost overnight, there was a new stratum of social order - the middle class. Skilled, mobile workers who demanded a price - and got it. A radical shift in the power structure.

Now, the upper class realizes the value in keeping birth rates high - more labor and cheaper labor.
That's why they never object too loudly about illegal immigration - cheap labor is coming to them.

It's an attempt to bring back the good old days of serfdom and servitude.

Re >>A lot of historical sociologists point to this time as the decline of the feudal system and the empowering of the common man. Almost overnight, there was a new stratum of social order - the middle class. Skilled, mobile workers who demanded a price - and got it. A radical shift in the power structure.<<

I believe I first read this in a history of organized labor, because some historians see this period as the beginning or forerunner of the labor movement. I'm not sure if the guilds predate the Plague or not, but there is no question that the supply and demand factors of the period worked in favor of higher wages and as you said, an empowering of the common man.

And it's stuck with me.

You should read that Conceptual Guerilla piece on "cheap labor conservatives". It's long and very detailed.

Here's the link:
http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/showthread.php?id=243

Very interesting.

I read the OP and liked it very much. It was an entertaining refresher course on what "mercantilism" was all about, and clarified certain other things, like the fact that "neoliberalism" is actually an economic term, not a political one. I always found it confusing that neoconservatism is also called neoliberalism. I'm looking forward to reading the sequels!

awhile back. It was quite interesting, I had no idea for instance that Jews were blamed for brining the plague etc and were hunted down etc.

One of the points they mentioned though as you said was when it was all over so many people had died that it gave rise to a middle class. Farmers took over the neighbors idle fields because all of the neighbors had died and were able to actually sell crops rather then just live off them. It was really interesting how it shook up the power base.

of catastrophes, including the Black Death. Even when the pope pointed out that Jews died of the plague like everyone else, it fell on deaf ears.

Ralph Reed? Or did I read this wrong? If so, is she throwing herself under the train so Ralph can look good?

Ralph is probably prettier than she is...my bad.

all those unwanted children grew up enduring years of neglect, possible abuse and trauma, and became (almost) 50 million angry, violent, CRIMINALS instead of compliant workers? What would she do about THAT? Or worse yet from her limited perspective, what if they started a *gasp* revolution?
More cops? More jails? More mental institutions? More "welfare" or theft? More gated communities? Such Republicans have absolutely no foresight. And they're mentally ill.

More cops may be hard to come by in the short term, but they can always find an excuse to declare martial law or even use Blackwater goons--wasn't BushCo proposing something like that for some hard-hit parish in New Orleans? I believe it was St. Bernard parish but I really don't remember. There was a thread about it on GD a day or so ago.

As for more jails, they're building them as fast as they can, and there are also those gulags--excuse me, detention centers--I keep hearing about on DU. I mean, you wanna talk about cheap labor...

another Cheap Labor Conservative said, "You could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down." They sure are confused.

Yes, Halliburton did get the contract to build more detention centers so they're ready if the workers/slaves/liberals/dissenters get in the way.
Chimpy said, "We need more detention centers!" Sweat shops?

If all those unwanted children grew up enduring years of neglect, possible abuse and trauma, and became (almost) 50 million angry, violent, CRIMINALS

Does she also think slavery should still be an acceptable practice?

"We could have used those people"

And I thought we had wingnut Republicans in MO and KS.

I mean, what are we going to say? There's no winning on this issue-- Our stance should be pro-choice, not pro-abortion.

It's an arrogant elitest attitude that treats people like cattle (or sheep, take your pick). That poor single women are put on this earth to STAY POOR and to MAKE BABIES so that the rich can PROFIT off of their CHEAP LABOR BABIES.

This statement is still fresh. Trust me, there are a lot of ways to use this comment that would alienate poor people from the Republican party.

Really this statement isn't about abortion - it's about elitism and exploitation. It's an admission of an underlying Republican AGENDA to keep poor people poor in this country so that they can be exploited by Republicans for their CHEAP LABOR.

Developing...

to tackle this topic in media appearances. Light weights who are easily overwhelmed by the likes of O'Reilly/ Matthews should leave the topic alone.

Burn these Plutocratic exploiting fuckwits to the ground!

Rebel!

Rebel NOW!

This is CAPITALISM at it's rawest form.

Take heed this is just the beginning!

to be unskilled laborers and didn't have a chance of the American Dream anyway, so we should outlaw abortions so we can have cheap labor? (did she mean slaves?)

is better than slaves. They have to feed slaves and give them a home. They have a certain interest in their health in order to keep them working while they are young and still strong. With cheap labor, you pay them low wages, and they are responsible for finding their own food, housing, and health care. It costs them no more in the long run and relieves them of any responsibility.

Legalized abortion is one of the causal factors in the reduction of crime. Legalizing abortion benefited the poor and socially disenfranchised in far greater proportion to the middle and upper classes. The very people who would most likely repeat the cycle of poverty and be forced to accept crap paying jobs to barely survive.

So yes, many of those fetus' would have grown up to be either unskilled laborers or criminals.

Her conclusion however is repugnant and I interpret it exactly the way you do. She is a heartless monster.

to find such a heartless, soul-less person underneath all that holier-than-thou, sanctimonious spewing!?

This isn't one of those times.

"Because of abortions we can't exploit the children of poor Americans anymore, so now we're forced to exploit poor immigrants instead." :cry:


So they're finally admitting out loud that they see humans as mere commodities. How very compassionate of these conservatives. :sarcasm:

FILTHY ROTTON TO THE CORE.
QUOTH THE RAVEN "NEVERMORE"

because they know how damn stupid their base is!

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she should go get a minimum wage job and STFU. That should be our response to any cheep labor conservative that complains about a lack of cheep labor. Stop running your mouths and go pick some fruit!

Um, WTF?!?! Well at least she's honest about the GOP agenda, they apparently want to end abortion so they can generate a whole class of slaves. Wow, that just explained everything for me.

Banning abortion is all about cheap labor.

This quote is as revealing to the Far Right Agenda as the Scanlon Memo is.

It's all dollars and cents to these people and I use that term loosely. I bet if planned parenthood were to give money to focus on the family abortion wouldn't even be an issue.

Honestly, that's the only comment i can make! Unreal! A undereducated idiot with these opinions holding office! Unreal!
The Professor

finally, a Repub that says what the abortion debate is really about for them, instead of all that disingenous talk of "life".

She should be more concerned about a surgical procedure to get her head out of her butt.

PLEASE. I beg of you. PLEASE defend this woman's statements. This is how you ALL think. Bay-bees are either cannon fodder or proles. Everyone in their station and have the good sense to stay there.

...to explain why some people on the right are so anti-choice and now this freaks comes out and says it in all seriousness. Jesus, I'm right even when I'm joking about these idiots.

then all of those people could be paying taxes and we would not be in debt. These idiots make those comments; however, when they are in front of a crowd, it's murder.

How appropriate for another RW "religious" (I say heritical) RULER class to embrace "cheap labor" with her political bases values! The HYPOCRACY is concrete.

low paying job that only immigrants will take? When do we get to see the * twins picking grapes? When are these stupid bastards going to get it through their thick heads that the POOR VERY SELDOM GET ABORTIONS! First of all their health care programs do not pay for abortions and second isn't it the repugs who tell us that the poor just keep having more kids so they can get welfare?

to do our cheap slave labor. Now we have to pay White people more because they won't work for the pittances Meskins and Blacks will work for. God Damned godless people."

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Schaffer is a nut. And while I think her comments are being slightly misinterpreted, the fact she wants Americans rather than immigrants to do cheap labor is an interesting one.

Many people want to work. Period.

But what's wrong with having one job that pay well, like it was between 1950 and ~1978?

TATTOO ON THE FOREHEADS OF ALL FREEPS.

Legalized abortion has lowered the number of people who would probably be consigned to a life of either barely subsistent wages or a life of crime.

BUT

"We need those people." What a fucking heartless bitch!

Really, if anyone remembers some of the threads in which I have been involved concerning immigration, I have always said that cheap labor conservatives are the ones to attack; not the poor immigrant who, for the most part, is coming because jobs are available. Now, this idiot not only confirms what I have said about repukes wanting cheap labor, she states it in such an insensitive manner, that it is beyond belief.

If abortions create a lack of cheap labor (because the premise is that minorities make up the majority of those that get abortions/work at lesser paying jobs) ; then white people should get more abortions strictly because it's painfully obvious that the existence of too many caucasians results in a lack of brain cells properly distributed equally amongst everyone (Sen. Nancy Schaefer being the most glaring example of that)

I was going to say she's a misogynist and a (baby-hater) but I think we need a new word for this one.

And I thought it was bad when the anti-choice assholes said babies were a punishment for having sex. Now they're nothing but future drones.

Is it so hard to understand that babies are people- an end in themselves, not a means to an end? They're not a punishment, not a "consequence", they're not a resource. They're people dammit.

On the program "To the Contrary". The Asian woman panel member said much the same thing. The other women on the program, to their credit, looked like they'd never heard anything so stupid and responded pointedly.

And there ya have it; rightwingnuttery.