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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:43 PM
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Poll question: Gas prices this summer?
Just want to guage people's predictions...what's the highest you think they could go per gallon?
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:45 PM
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1. Hurricanes are coming!
And all the same excuses they used last year. Only this year it's starting off higher.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:06 AM
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10. And Wars, And Rumors Of Wars n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:45 PM
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2. The oil companies will just love this post -
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:48 PM
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3. do you all think high prices are here to stay?
a new natural gas marketer in GA is offering promotional 6 month fixed rate of 1.099/ 12 month 1.299... Just trying to figure out if I should continue to hold out for a time when prices get back to what they used to be!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:53 PM
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7. I live in Ga too, and I'm holding out for a while.
A little over a year ago, I wsitched providers because the one I had increased their prices to .89/therm and I got a fixed 12 month rate of .69/therm at the new one. Unfortunately, that rate expired in Dec. 2005!

I'm not convinced they'll be able to keep these high rates indefinately. I'm planning to watch what happens over the warm weather, and when it drops below $1.00 I might sign up.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:56 PM
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8. wow! you had an awesome rate... mine was almost 30 cents more!
but also ended December 05 :(
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:26 AM
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12. I'm also looking into a corn burning stove.
They're expensive to buy. The ones I've found so far are $1500 and up! BUT, they're very efficient, and the ones that sell for around $2,000 will burn for 15-18 hours between filling. They have blowers on them and should replace your furnace.

I checked a site that showed the comparrison between gas & corn stove costs and at what price of each where the lines cross and one becomes more beneifcial over the other.

Still checking and when heating concerns die down over the spring & summer, prices may come down too.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:12 AM
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11. Considering That North America Only Has 9 Years Of Proven Natural Gas
reserves remaining, I'll leave the extrapolation to you.


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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 08:39 AM
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23. That Is Simply Not True
At least get your facts somewhat right.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 10:52 AM
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25. Maybe You Should Get YOUR Facts Right
Dry natural gas reserves/production/consumption:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/gas.html

All 2003 data

Dry Gas Reserves TCF

US 189.04
CAN 56.57
MEX 14.86
260.47 TCF

Dry Gas Production TCF

US 19.04
CAN 6.45
MEX 1.49
26.98 + 0.51 TCF LNG Imports = 27.49 TCF

Dry Gas Consumption TCF

US 22.38
CAN 3.21
MEX 1.82
27.41 TCF

260.47 / 27.41 ~ 9.5 years


Dry natural gas: Natural gas which remains after: 1) the liquefiable hydrocarbon portion has been removed from the gas stream (i.e., gas after lease, field, and/or plant separation); and 2) any volumes of nonhydrocarbon gases have been removed where they occur in sufficient quantity to render the gas unmarketable. Note: Dry natural gas is also known as consumer-grade natural gas. The parameters for measurement are cubic feet at 60 degrees Fahrenheit and 14.73 pounds per square inch absolute.



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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:49 PM
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4. Other
Prices are determined by the energy futures market. All future perception, so I have no idea what the price will be.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:47 AM
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16. uh huh
oh yes
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:57 AM
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17. And your point
is what exactly? Am I wrong? If so, tell me how.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:50 PM
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5. Boil the frog slowly
They should hover around the $3.00 range, give or take $.30 or so. Then they'll go up toward fall when the hurricane(s) hit. Next year people will be used to the $3.00-$3.50 range, so they'll go to $4.00 for the summer traveling season. And so on and so forth. It's going to be two jumps up, half a jump back for the foreseeable future.

I'm SO glad my other car is an electric moped.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:50 PM
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6. Deja Vu All Over Again.
It's escalating higher and faster than it had this time last year. I've seen a 25 cent jump this month alone.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 03:30 PM
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31. 30 cents here in the past three weeks.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:00 AM
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9. It Will Be Higher In the BLUE States
They'll be wanting to send us a message.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:33 AM
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13. 3,50-4.50
at least that . I'm in SW Missouri, and its all ready 2.40, its not even spring yet, and I have no idea why its so damn high. Just a few weeks ago it was 1.97...I see this summer at least hitting 4 as a high, at least. what i dont understand is the price differences.

This past weekend my wife and I were up in Laweence Kansas. And 100% of the time, their gas in Lawrence is usually 25-40 cents more expensive than it is in SW Missouri(goodman/neosho area)...but this past weekend. I filled up at Caseys in Goodman, it was 2.29, and when we got up to lawrence about three hours later...2.24 a gal, i was like wtf? Lawrence is ALWAYS more expensive than sw missouri...(at least in my experience).
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 09:10 AM
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24. Lots of price disparities
like that in NE JOklahoma and NW Arkansas as well. Tulsa has been higher in relation to NW Arkansas than in the past and also higher in reltaion to OKCity and some of the smaller surrounding towns.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:36 AM
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14. $4 if bushco invades Iran, $3 otherwise
Anything over $3 is dangerous to republicans in an election year. They'll do everything possible to keep it below $3.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:10 AM
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20. Four dollars?
I could really use this against my freeper brother. Can you provide links to the $4 estimate data? Thanks.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:14 PM
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26. Honestly, I'm just going on a hunch -- but a reasoned hunch
Consider:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2172645&mesg_id=2172645

Gas prices often rise in the summer, and during military operations in the Middle East. If bushco invades Iran, we're looking at a war against a country that can directly attack oil shipping in the Suez Canal. That will drive the energy markets crazy.

But my guess of $4 is still a guess -- I think that's really the most a person can do. I doubt the public would tolerate a price hike of more than that; shareholders would probably eat some of the production costs themselves to stifle the outrage.

I doubt you can use this against your freeper brother. Sorry. :shrug:
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:45 AM
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15. Don't let them know-we expect-i.e. accept, their huge record OIL profits.
These fucks have no mercy...
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 01:57 AM
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18. They'll be stable where I am - Hee hee.
Because I'll have moved back to Japan already. The prices there barely went up when they were doubling here. Sure, the price of gas per gallon is still slightly higher there than here, but just barely now that the new floor is $2.35 per gal. Add in the fact that most trips don't require a car there, and I am not sweating the price of gas a bit! :)

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:07 AM
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19. A brazillion dollars!
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:12 AM
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21. I say 3-3.50
Barring a blockade in the gulf.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 08:35 AM
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22. I wish I could be as optimistic as you. I said $6.00 +
Hope your right. Even though 3-3.50 is still way too high.
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 02:56 PM
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27. Demand in the US is up 2% this year compared to last year at this
same time. As much as I hate to pay for it, there it is.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 03:14 PM
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28. How the hell is demand going up?
Last summer absolutely demolished SUV sales, while car sales went way up. There are way more hybrids on the road than a year ago. I honestly hoped demand destruction would set in and force people to cut back on unneccessary travelling and convince people to carpool, take the bus, bike, etc, therefore AT LEAST holding demand stable. How can demand go up?
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 03:18 PM
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29. Dunno. Ask WCBS radio in New York, where I heard this. Twice. n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 03:20 PM
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30. Exxon Mobil can kiss my ass.
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