Tell me again. Why was Clinton impeached?

George Bush has trampled on the US Constitution by spying on American citizens, and then boasted about how he would continue to do so. In spite of the Geneva Convention and a recent specific law forbidding torture, Bush says he will torture if he wants to (in essence, telling Congress that he is above their laws). And, of course, HE STARTED A WAR!!!!

Going to war against another country is something a leader should do ONLY under a last resort. Starting a war is the most heinous act a leader can do. But Bush started a war. Not a war against someone who attacked us. Not a war to protect us (and don't give me that bullshit about everybody thinking he had WMD). No, he started a war because he wanted to! He wanted to be a "War President," whatever the hell that is. He wanted the "political capital" his father had for a while. Maybe he just wanted revenge because Saddam Hussein tried to assassinate his father. I don't know, but he was talking about invading Iraq long before 9/11.

Remember when the United States used to be considered the "good guys?" We used to set the example for other countries to emulate. Well, good guys don't torture. They don't cover their enemies in feces. And they don't start wars! That's for the Napoleons and Genghis Khans of the world.

If Congress doesn't vote Bush out of office, then impeachment is nothing but a tool to be used by the party in power to used for revenge. If Congress doesn't vote to impeach Bush, then our political process is indeed a sham.

Bummer.

Henry Hyde even admitted that they impeached Clinton as revenge on the Nixon impeachment.

The point I was trying to make was, if the crimes that Bush has been committing aren't impeachable, then what are? By impeaching Clinton, Congress has REALLY lowered the bar on what it takes to impeach a president, and yet they won't impeach Bush. It's a travesty.

It not NOW...WHEN?

the only two times impeachment was used were just GOP power grabs.

to get him.

And because he was incredibly stupid enough not to just put a lid on it until he was out of office. I think he's a giant of a man, but I'm still rather pissed at that lack of self-control. Wouldn't it have been great to continue to foil his enemies straight on through?

He was in the wrong place at the wrong time as the Rethuglican "revolution" was taking place. He was bound to be steamrolled. He had the 'Thugs camped out on his steps waiting for him to slip up and.....he just handed the scandal to them on a silver platter. Very disappointing.

However, I still can't fathom anyone thinking that a BJ between two consenting adults even approaches the lying, cheating, death and horror of BushCo.

The idea that there's any comparison between the two is mind-boggling.

That anyone could believe Clinton's was a heinous crime while the death and destruction of Bush is just dandy is so far beyond me I won't ever be able to understand it.

He worked his ass off and became President.

For the blue-bloods who are the heart of the GOP, this was unforgivable.

Well, they showed Clinton how it's done, by Their Rules. (sarcasm)

Remember the golden rule, those who have the gold rule.

he was obviously a threat to someone.

Also, the bitch Lucienne Goldberg convinced Linda Tripp to spy on her friend Monica Lewinski, whose mouth evidently couldn't stop talking if there wasn't something in it to keep it busy.

See, W is completely open and honest about how he fucks the country over and shits on the law. There's your key difference. Oh, that and the co-aligned congress.

He just refuses to be questioned under oath.

Yes, I think that is what it was. :applause:

Sex is bad...Greed is good!

what that makes greedy sex???

had to find a flimsy excuse to impeach him, but once they had a majority in Congress, nothing could have stopped them.

The media is the propaganda arm of the repuke party. As long as the repukes have the numbers in Congress and the media props him up, the chimp could commit lewd acts on a small child during halftime at the Super Bowl and he would not only not be impeached, the talking heads and repuke politicians would find a way to put a positive spin on it. In other words, as of right now, nothing he could say or do could get him impeached and he knows it.

are par for the course. Sign any bill, add your own interpretation and VOILA it is legal.

impeaching a president for something that had not a damn thing to do with the business of the country.

History will not be kind to them.

:mad:

meaning, sexual intercourse

WTF were they doing questioning him about his sexual relationship with "that woman" when he was supposed to be being questioned for a totally unrelated issue? Why doesn't anyone seem to think that was as appalling as I do? :shrug:

Sex Harrassment suit was not settled out of court, and the law states that one can introduce a "pattern" of sexual harrassment...

they couldn't get a hot brunette to blow them(not that M.L. was that hot). I wish I could've told Bill that if he's gonna play around, at least find someone prettier than Hillary. Alas, he didn't:eyes:

The republicans found a way to grab power. If it hadn't been a blue dress, it would have been something else.

when you get down to it

Really, it's so clear when you go to http://newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

January 26, 1998
The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC
Dear Mr. President:
We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War.

<snip>

We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.
We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf.

Sincerely,
Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett
Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky
Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad
William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman
Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber
Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick


Any of those names look familiar?

Bolton: UN, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Cheney Rice and Rove were PNACer's too.

This is why they got their hands on the blue dress: To have their bloody occupation. Thanks to Clinton's tail chasing, they got it in 5 years.

It was all their plan, from the beginning. Destabilize the middle east.

that, could he be trusted with matters of national security?

That was the meme of the time. The chimperer just skipped right to lying about national security.