Bush can do whatever he wants and we can't do a damn thing about it.

Bush & Co. has been running the country for five years and we've fought them every step of the way. But aside from winning an occasional skirmish, have we really accomplished anything? IMO, the answer to that question is, no.

He wants to go to war? He goes to war. He wants to give away the country to the wealthy? He does it. He wants to tell the rest of the world he's ignoring treaties, conventions, agreements, and everything else that makes this planet livable? He just tells the world to screw off. He wants to make air unbreathable and water undrinkable? No one seems to be stopping him. He wants to torture people? No problem. He wants to tell us he's following God's orders? Nobody drops a net on him while he's being fitted for a straight jacket. He wants to say he's above the law? Try arresting him. He wants to lie to us every time he opens his mouth, while smirking in our faces? Well, he just does it.

For all our bitching, moaning, ranting, raving, contributing, condemning, screaming in frustration, marching, petitioning, praying, puking and calling him every name in the world, he still has all the levers of power and we are still subject to his malignant rule.

Like everyone here, I hope we can start to change things this November. But given the past five years, (and the thug's control of the mechanisms of voting) forgive me if I'm skeptical.

End of rant. Fire away.

So often it seems that ranting is all we can do...
I email, I fax, I call and it very rarely does any good even with those "on our side", let alone the wacko minority of * lovers. :banghead:
Hang in...

It is simply a question of when we are prepared to make the sacrifices it is sure to require. Sacrifices of life, liberty, and property, it is bound to be quite costly to the participants. There is no other way that is apparent to me. The entire world is waiting on the American people to stand up and demonstrate to them that we really do disagree with the insanity of this administration, our weak protestations don't convince them at all.

The time has come to either walk the walk or STFU!

What's going to make the next election different from the last two? Do you really believe this group running things now is simply just going to walk away from power?

then be honest, and change your 'we can't do a damn thing about it'

to 'I can't do a damn thing about it'.

they are just getting more blatant as they do what is bad for America, they barely bother hiding it. (Though what is hidden is surely even worse)

How much our votes count or don't count scares me too. The last thing they want is an opposition party to start real investigations. It's sad that it has to be an opposition party to even get them, everyone should care.

Of course if they are sure enough of SCOTUS now they might figure they can beat down any objections.

You aren't alone.

bush is making a clear record that republicans must run on; and I'd suggest we don't want to interfere with that. I sincerely believe that george bush doing whatever he wants to do now will result in the gop becoming the minority party for a very long time. We won't get short term joy from this monster but his followers and his fellow "conservatives" will suffer immensely in the long run when he's back in crawford snorting cocaine. If you think having a stained blue dress on your back is heavy imagine the desperate discussions in republican cloakrooms throughout the country.

being impeached and convicted - then tried for war crimes and crimes against America...Bush will have gotten away with it all.

Fuck hanging your hopes on some future karmic event where he trips over his Segway and becomes a vegetable - or worse, waiting for some mystic feel good, you'll get yours, divine intervention called "judgment day" - I want justice.

There's nearly three-hundred million people in this country ...and from that number, what is the invariably minuscule percentage that works for the gov in any authoritarian capacity? Exactly. Trouble is, not enough have awoken to the true extent of a perilous situation - many through denial, yes, but for many is only due to a lack of having the facts presented to them in a way completely devoid of Establishment bias.

So, yes, technically, "we the people" could do a lot to be rid of the fascists, however....we've been conditioned to be soft, depoliticized and desensitized, so many, for now, will instead choose to remain in denial and hold out hope for better results stemming from yet another rigged election that our press will again effectively spin and sell while most people just sit there and take it.

First off, we aren't up against bush. I don't think he is even smart enough to know that he is being played.

I will be the first to admit that I am not the most politically aware person here at DU, but I do know that I have paid attention to world politics for many years and realize that it is all not cut and dry. It isn't really an "us against them" scenario 100% of the time.

I understand your frustration, but I can tell you that if you are fairly new to politics, then it might seem like we are in a no win situation and it can make you blow a few fuses and feel like giving up. The truth is, this is the way it is and has been since this country started electing people to govern the people.

The machine that runs this country and the world is bigger than most of us can really imagine and we (as the citizens) are mainly here to speak out and "fight" for what we individually believe in. We will not always get our own way and many times we will feel that we will never be completely satisfied with how things are being done. Well, guess what? That will never happen. Even in the best of times, you will be unhappy about something that is being done that seems to be against what you believe.

In regards to bush and his gang, I think "we" have done a lot. If it weren't for 9/11, this administration would have been at a 35% (or whatever it is) approval for the last 5 years. They have mainly gotten their support from the people because of this "war on terrorism" agenda, but other than that, they have accomplished nothing.

Don't give up and think that what you or "we" are doing hasn't made a difference. It has in a lot of ways, but not with the big bang people would like to see. There are talks of impeachment, dirty politics, fraud, illegal spying, treason and a lot of other activity that will continue to come to light. We haven't lost anything, it is just politics my friend and that's how the world spins.

"It isn't really an "us against them" scenario 100% of the time. "

No, it isn't, and while I've gotten irritated at Bushbots thinking this way, I catch myself doing it at times.

It isn't Clinton-good, Bush-Bad, or vice versa. Although Clinton does look like Saint William next to Bush, I admit.

Let me say this: I dislike, distrust, can't stand, etc., Bushco as much as anybody else. One contributing factor in this is their appallingly callous, insensitive, selfish, arrogant attitudes, behavior, and remarks. It's as if they're saying,

"We'll do whatever we want, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. We care about our own, and our base, the rich and the super-rich. We don't give a flying fuck about the middle class and the poor. And we don't care who knows it. There's not a damn thing you can do about it anyway."

Previous administrations may have thought these things, but at least they had the tact not to be so damn blatant about it.

I think I'll start a new thread about this.

I agree, these people are a bit arrogant about their inability to work for the people.

...just points out in a backhanded way how invulnerable these guys are. Any of us could list 2 dozen misdeeds that should have brought the house down...but 20 years of planning, ruthless PR, and a complicit congress allow them to sweep it all under the rug. Continued misdeeds are proof of continued strength. Low approvals mean nothing when you control events, the stories about the events, and elections.

I used to think an independent investigator like Fitzgerald could work his way deep into the administration. But at this point, any legal jeopardy can be delayed till well after 2008, if it gets started at all. DSM, election tampering, WMD, Sibel, and torture can't even get off the ground.

I used to hope that a top insider who can't take it anymore comes forward and reveals all. Didn't work for a former cabinet member (ONeill) but it might if Tenet or Powell find their consciences. This seems less likely the closer we get to the end of the administration term.

I used to hope that a completely credible, charismatic, straight-talking hero would stand up for the american public and just the force of his/her reason and clear thinking would make it obvious that one-party rule can't continue. Not only do I not know who that would be, but even when some likely candidates stand up (Feingold, Hacket) their own party throws a wet blanket on the effort.

I used to hope that the opposition party could find creative ways to use their media exposure and unity to expose administration misdeeds in a consistent, strong way. Not even close on that one. Rule 21 looked good...but where exactly is that 9/11 report?

I thought, after 2004, that election reform would sweep through congress because opposition to fair elections is not defensible. Even in the face of media bias, at least we could count on a fair counting of votes next time around. Not only has nothing been done nationally that I know of, my own state recently approved illegal, uncertified Diebold machines, for some reason.

I thought that if enough LTE, blogs, and news shows spread opposition party thinking, that people could would be open enought to change their minds and if the people changed their minds, they would demand change from their congress. The GOP and media work tirelessly every day to keep those minds closed with hate, polarization, and loyalty to party.


I'm not suggesting we give up...we need to be more creative.

ranting, etc"?

When will the nightmare end? What will cause the end? Who will be in charge after that?