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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:47 AM
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I need a quote
Does anyone have that quote from the guy who said that women can't get pregnant from being raped? I'm blarguing with a freeper...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:48 AM
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1. here ya go, bring your barf bag
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:00 PM
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2. Thanks, but I had that one already
It's the one where the guy's saying that a woman's reproductive system basically shuts down if she's being raped. I can't remember for the life of me who said that.

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:28 PM
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3. Aldridge
From the Associated Press, 3/4/97

RALEIGH, N.C. -- Rep. Henry Aldridge, a 73-year-old Republican,
who once insisted that rape victims can't get pregnant because
"the juices don't flow" has been appointed co-chairman of the
House Committee on Human Resources, by the man many say is the
most sensitive to women, GOP House Speaker Snoot Gingrich.

"The facts show that people who are raped, ...TRULY raped,
the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work,
and they don't get pregnant," Aldridge said.

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:31 PM
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4. more
He (Aldridge) went on to insist that "Medical authorities agree that this is a rarity, if ever."

. . . Aldridge did not specify exactly what "juices" he was talking about. Earlier, he had made remarks implying that victims of rape or incest were sexually promiscuous.

"To get pregnant, it takes a little cooperation," said Aldridge, "and there ain't much cooperation in a rape."

North Carolina isn't the only state, however, where lawmakers may need a good course in human sexuality and basic biology.

In 1988, a Delaware state legislator said that the odds were "one in
millions and millions and millions" that a women could be impregnated
during a rape attack since the trauma would cause her to release "a
certain secretion" capable of killing sperm. That bizarre remark came
from then- Representative Stephen Freind, an outspoken opponent of
abortion rights. He too came under attack from women's rights and
pro-choice groups, and issued a "clarification" -- and a new twist on
his unique biological theory. "It's not the presence of the secretion
that kills the sperm," he said, "It's the lack of those secretions . . .
that don't do their work and trigger the hormones that bring about the
ovulation."

Friend made an unsuccessful run for the United State Senate in
1992.

Science Ignorance, and Men Controlling Women's Bodies

Despite the bizarre theories concerning "juices" and "secretions"
(which will surely puzzle any competent biologist), the latest remarks by
Rep. Aldridge raise a fundamental point -- men have used the power of the
church and the state to control the bodies and biological destinies of
females. When asked why male legislators should have any say in the
abortion question since male involvement in pregnancy is minimal, one
former Arizona legislator made the statement that "my sperm is a 'gift'
to the woman." And religious prohibitions concerning abortion often
involve a "naturalist" argument, that it is the destiny or nature of
females to bear children. Men are often ignorant about female biology,
sexuality, and the entire child-bearing process.

One pro-choice bumper sticker reads: IF MEN COULD GET PREGNANT,
ABORTION WOULD BE A SACRAMENT.


http://www.holysmoke.org/fem/fem0520.htm
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:03 PM
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5. Thanks, I totally need that barfbag now
I can't believe people this stupid have this much power.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:34 PM
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6. Ask them to take a look at Sudan...
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 06:41 PM by Vektor
And the legions of half Janjaweed babies, born to Sudanese civilian women (and girls) after mass rapes, which are used as an act or war to "water down" the bloodline of the tribes they are attacking.

http://sudanwatch.blogspot.com/2004/11/prayer-for-janjaweed-rape-babies.html

http://www.leadershipforwomen.com.au/Eliminate%20Violence%20Against%20Women/Rape%20&%20War.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sudan/story/0,,1366824,00.html

And then kindly ask the ignorant assholes you are arguing with to get some education.

Edited to add - the second link even acknowledges that the Bush administration realizes the reality of this horror. They are not doing much about it, granted, but they know it's there.
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