Dem Spokesman Bob Shrum says "Dems shouldn't be for Censure or

Impeachment....on Tweety just now...with Bush hack Ben Ginsberg where they both chuckled and chortled.

It would seem that "some of us Dems" not only need to fight against the Repugs these days but against our Democratic Party Spokespersons.

Is this what it's come to? Who allows Bob Shrum to keep going out there speaking for us along with Donna Brazille and several other "Spokespersons" for Dems that I've never heard of as a decades, lifelong Dem?

Where do they get these people. Is the DLC really THAT POWERFUL?

It's really getting to the point where I'm feeling very alienated from my own party.

Wow! Let's follow the advice of Shrum.

Shrum was zero for six when he got picked by Al Gore in 2000. He was zero for seven when he got picked by John Kerry in 2004. How many people(evil DUers) have good things to say about Gore and Kerry. Indeed, a body can get verbally assaulted in these forums for saying anything bad about the two.
I think Shrum's ability to snatch defeat from the jaw of victory is what endears him to Tweety and his producers. He's a dead bang loser, just like Lieberman, but in the beltway whore circles, they are just so nice.
This is a good country, but it has to be lead right. Right now, we have no good leaders, anyplace! The Daily Kos has a story about Democratic apathy in an Il primary today, or maybe it was Tuesday, with results getting out now. I am afraid come November, we are in for more crooked repukes. Reading the blogs and the evil DU gives a false sense of security.
I keep quoting it, but it has proved to contain more truth than anything I have ever read or heard:

"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public."

I should give credit to the writer, but memory fails me right now.

Why oh why are we putting up with these frickin morons as the party spokespersons? who the fuck is paying them? is it coming out of our contributions?

I want every single one of these morons fired right now! form a new batch of "insiders" with an ounce of intelligence and media savvy.

sheesh.

... and that censure or impeachment becomes possible (maybe) after that point? I don't know - I didn't see him ... just recalling similar arguments I've heard recently.

and writing speeches because those are the ONLY areas where he excels.

Get rid of him if he is. With Friends like these who needs enemies...

this clown sure doesn't speak for me. I could probably count on 2 hands the number of Dems who do actually speak for me, at least the ones who aren't afraid to speak up...

Here's what I sent:
Mr Shrum - Just heard you on Chris Matthews with Ben Ginsburg saying that Democrats shouldn't be for censure or impeachment.
It would appear that you have gone over to the "Dark Side" and joined the ranks of Zell Miller and other DINO's. You certainly don't speak for me and many other Yellow Dog Democrats.
Please, stop trying to drag the Democratic Party into the Republican tent. We're not the party of wealth and privelege.
Thank you.

Here's the website for Democracy Corps - His lobbying firm

http://www.democracycorps.com/contact.html

There's always a way to find these guys.

We have to let them know that they don't speak for us.

:kick:

is a good idea. It was a disgusting performance by him...and it did seem a "performance" with the winking and eye contact between him, Ginsberg and Tweety.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Our Dem Party is leaving their BASE in the dust!!!

I mean really...his track record sucks. :shrug:

and make Democrats look wussy and ineffectual and he's apparently doing an excellent job at it.

It's as easy as that. Don't let them fool you into thinking you are watching a balanced program, just because Bob Shrum is on. Spend time watching programs with real journalists.

Did anyone happen to catch Randi Rhodes yesterday, where she was explaining how some of these shows are organized specifically so that opposing guests will fight over a topic. It's all so fake and fabricated. Not news, just a food fight to amuse people so they'll watch their commercials. Ask yourself when it's over: what have we learned? :shrug:

Quote from you that's priceless for me to remember...:toast:

Not news, just a food fight to amuse people so they'll watch their commercials.

or does Ben Ginsberg bear a striking resemblance to the evil owner of the polluting nuclear plant on The Simpsons?

been the "darling" of them ever since. He has a "sincere look in his eyes" that masks the EVIL WITHIN!

If you ever watch scary SciFi Movies...Ginsberg is someone who would be a composite of EVIL/Mixed with a "come on" that makes you not really get that he's the worst of the lot....A CREATURE OF EVIL!

ha...I'd rather listen to a filibuster on opera.

or else they let KARL ROVE choose for them.

Those choices, like almost everything else they do, are made for maximum benefit to the REPUBLICANS.

going postal.

Did you see the shit-eatin' grins on both Ginsberg's and Matthews' faces? They KNEW he'd just given away the store and was playing right into GOP hands. God what a waste of perfectly good carbon.

And just how arrogantly out of touch can one fucking fat, old, bald STUPID WHITE MAN be? Shrum takes the cake (aside from Republicans, of course).

Party have some say in who represents them...or is the MEDIA so totally in control that even the Parties no longer can say who is their spokesperson.

I agree with you...it made me sick...I turned it off and couldn't watch anymore of anything.

n/t

"Go the freak AWAY."

Just do the opposite of what the guy says and we'll be OK.

The time is now to call Bush out for flagrantly breaking the law.

:rofl: :popcorn: