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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 05:54 PM
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Delusion or dementia?? You decide

Stumbled across this website.. Notice what I did?? This whole damned cowboy myth is CRAP.. ALL the "cowboys" idealized and idolized here are FICTION.. Is this any way to run a country?? Like a gunslinger..These are characters in books, stories, songs & movies.. REAL cowboys were mostly POOR people (would be called liberals today). They did hard physical labor, for LOW pay..Some were scoundrels, but most were just common people looking for a better life.. NOTHING like the fake cowboys on the big screen or in the White House..

and ...REAGAN WAS AN ACTOR...A VERY RICH ACTOR...NOT A COWBOY


The "Cowboy"


It used to tick me off when the Muslim detractors in the Middle East,
or the socialist liberals in Europe, Hollywood and others called our
President a cowboy, but the more I think about it, the more glad I am that he is...
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 05:59 PM
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1. Half of them were Lefties, too
As for the real cowboys, about 65% of them were -- eek! -- black.

The real cowboys also invited Oscar Wilde to take a tour of the West in the 1880s (I think it was the 1880s) and visit some of their camps, which occasionally held the precursors of our modern "poetry slams".

And, yes, that "eek" was an ironic "eek" for the wingnuts. They have about as much appreciation for cowboys as they do for any of the virtues they claim to possess, but don't.

--p!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 05:59 PM
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2. First off, it sounds as if it was written by a twelve year old
Secondly, what the Hell is this picture supposed to mean?



Although I did like this line:

12. They always won. They always got their man. In victory, they rode off into the sunset.

"Brokeback Mountain," anyone? :D

Also, anyone who thinks cowboys were "a beacon of integrity in the wild, wild West" needs to read a fucking history book.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:02 PM
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3. Their "history" is fictionalized in novella form..
or shown on tv with a country western soundtrack
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:04 PM
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6. probably some cross-burning... nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:04 PM
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8. or Karl behind him with a lighter
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 06:05 PM by SoCalDem
"cowboys" like beans with their barbeque
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:55 PM
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12. It means, "I know enough to run from fire."
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:02 PM
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4. Most cowboys were black, mexican and chinese.
Do they know this?
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:43 PM
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10. Mexican vaqueros
also used the cowboy boot heel, spurs, lassos, lariat, chaps and had rodeos long before the "gringo" cowboys ever heard of them.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:02 PM
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5. Cowboys.... were Mexicans, Indians and Blacks
The Spanish invented what we now consider the cowboy tradition, beginning in the Middle Ages in Spain. During the 16th century, they brought the tradition and their horses, the ancestors of the wild mustangs, with them to the New World through New Spain (later Mexico).

Though popularly considered as an American icon, cowboys are a New Hispanic tradition, which originated in the Central States of Mexico, Jalisco and Michoacan, where the Mexican cowboy would eventually be known as a "charro". Historically, the northern parts of Mexico (New Mexico)originally included most of the territory of the American southwest including Texas. In the early 1600s, Spain, and later Mexico, began offering empresario grants in what would later be Texas to Americans who agreed to become citizens and convert to Catholicism. In 1821 Stephen F. Austin and his East Coast comrades became the first English speaking Mexicans. Following Texas independence in 1836 even more Americans immigrated into Texas and to the empresario ranching areas. Here they were absorbed by the Mexican vaquero culture, borrowing vocabulary and attire from their counterparts.

The buckaroo, also a cowboy of the vaquero tradition, developed in California and bordering territories during the Spanish Colonial period. Buckaroo is the anglicized pronunciation (originally bakhara (1827), influenced by 'buck') of vaquero and is still a common term in the Great Basin and many areas of California and the Pacific Northwest. Following the Civil War, their culture diffused eastward and northward combining with the earlier cowboy tradition that was following the cattle trails out of Texas northward and westward. Sharing the same base, their traditions became indistinguishable with a few regional differences still remaining.


Much has been written about the racial mix of the cowboys in the West, but cowboys ranked low in the social structure of the period and there are no firm figures. The Cattle on a Thousand Hills by John Ambulo in the March 1887 issue of The Overland Monthly states that cowboys are "... of two classes—those recruited from Texas and other States on the eastern slope; and Mexicans, from the south-western region. ...". Census records bear that out. The cowboy occupation undoubtably appealed to the freedmen following the Civil War. It is estimated that about 15% of all cowboys were of African ancestry—ranging from about 25% on the trail drives out of Texas, to very few on the northern ranges. Similarly, cowboys of Mexican descent also averaged about 15%, but were more common in Texas and the southwest. American Indians also found employment as cowboys early in the history of the West. Many of the early vaqueros were Indians trained to work for the Spanish missions in caring for the mission herds. Following the dissolution of the reservation system around 1900, many of the Indian trade schools also taught ranching skills to Indian youth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboys
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:46 PM
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11. Good post! Thanks
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:04 PM
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7. In a western picture, Bush would play
the lesser son of the greedy rancher, trying to blow the homesteaders off of their land with hired guns and terrorism (as in Shane, or The Man Who Shot Liberty Valens), or the local halfwit (like Mose' in The Searchers, except of course that Mose was goodhearted and not a psychopath like Bush)
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:07 PM
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9. As long as he didn't have to ride a horse
Horses are scary, Mommy. :scared:
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