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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:30 PM
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Iraq on its own to rebuild, U.S. says
BAGHDAD, Iraq -- The head of the U.S.-led program to rebuild Iraq said Thursday that the Iraqi government can no longer count on U.S. funds and must rely on its own revenues and other foreign aid, particularly from Persian Gulf nations."The Iraqi government needs to build up its capability to do its own capital budget investment," Daniel Speckhard, director of the U.S. Iraq Reconstruction Management Office, said.The burden of paying for reconstruction poses an extraordinary challenge for a country that needs tens of billions of dollars for repairing its infrastructure at the same time it's struggling to pay its bills.

Iraq's deputy finance minister, Kamal Field al-Basri, said it was "reasonable" for the United States to sharply cut back its reconstruction efforts after spending about $21 billion."We should be very much dependent on ourselves," al-Basri said.Anthony Cordesman, a Middle East expert at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, called the U.S. reconstruction effort "a dismal failure. It hasn't met any of its goals. It's left a legacy of half-built projects, built to U.S. standards, which Iraq doesn't have the capability to maintain."Al-Basri said Iraq needs to increase its capacity to produce oil, which generates 93 percent of government's revenues.The total rebuilding cost is now $70 billion to $100 billion -- up from a $60 billion World Bank estimate in 2003,
Speckhard said.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060324/NEWS06/603240459/1012
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:32 PM
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1. Maybe if we stop bombing the place to pieces. What happened to
"you broke it you fix it"? I guess this is more "winning the hearts & minds".
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:38 PM
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6. I think Powell said
"If you break it, you own it.":hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:32 PM
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2. Bomb the shit out of them, kill their citizens, and leave.
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 08:33 PM by babylonsister
Why are we there anyway? The argument has been that we broke it, we must fix it. :wtf:

I wonder if this admin continues to build their own bases in the deserts of Iraq, for future use.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:35 PM
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4. we should have left the day we captured saddam
or never gone in except with commando forces.

shameful. completely predictable.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:42 PM
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Yep, the pockets are lined, time to fly home. nt
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:33 PM
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3. Then make Halliburton return the money Congress gave it. I'll take my
share in a certified check, thank you.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:43 PM
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10. There you go!!
What's with all the money then? Why all the excuses to raise the debt ceiling?


These bastards are in no way, shape or form, fiscally conservative.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:36 PM
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5. 21 billion for reconstruction and nothing much has been done.
where did the other 275 billion get off to? this on top of a 400+ billion dollar a year pentagon budget...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:39 PM
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7. Uhhhhh.....one minor fucking detail....what happened to all the
reconstruction money that was appropriated for rebuilding Iraq??? Where are the BILLIONS of $$$$$$$$$$$$???? SOMEONE had BETTER ask that question of the U.S. GOVERNMENT!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:41 PM
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8. Calling Rep. Waxman, Rep. Waxman, help! We'll probably
be told it's all been spent. :eyes:
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:42 PM
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9. so much for "when they stand up, we'll stand down"
It look like Iraq (and Afghanistan, and New Orleans for that matter) can't count on any help from Dubya. (Perhaps Iraq should change its name to "Neil Bush", in order to keep the funding flowing?)
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:52 PM
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11. This story came out a while ago....
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 09:03 PM by stillcool47
but not by this author?..."By Thomas Frank USA Today"
U.S. Has End in Sight on Iraq Rebuilding
Documents Show Much of the Funding Diverted to Security, Justice System and Hussein Inquiry
By Ellen Knickmeyer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, January 2, 2006; Page A01
BAGHDAD -- The Bush administration does not intend to seek any new funds for Iraq reconstruction in the budget request going before Congress in February, officials say. The decision signals the winding down of an $18.4 billion U.S. rebuilding effort in which roughly half of the money was eaten away by the insurgency, a buildup of Iraq's criminal justice system and the investigation and trial of Saddam Hussein.

Just under 20 percent of the reconstruction package remains unallocated. When the last of the $18.4 billion is spent, U.S. officials in Baghdad have made clear, other foreign donors and the fledgling Iraqi government will have to take up what authorities say is tens of billions of dollars of work yet to be done merely to bring reliable electricity, water and other services to Iraq's 26 million people.

"The U.S. never intended to completely rebuild Iraq," Brig. Gen. William McCoy, the Army Corps of Engineers commander overseeing the work, told reporters at a recent news conference. In an interview this past week, McCoy said: "This was just supposed to be a jump-start."

Since the reconstruction effort began in 2003, midcourse changes by U.S. officials have shifted at least $2.5 billion from the rebuilding of Iraq's decrepit electrical, education, water, sewage, sanitation and oil networks to build new security forces for Iraq and to construct a nationwide system of medium- and maximum-security prisons and detention centers that meet international standards, according to reconstruction officials and documents. Many of the changes were forced by an insurgency more fierce than the United States had expected when its troops entered Iraq.

...and from Juan Cole at the time....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/02/AR2006010200370.html
The Washington Post reports that the $18 billion voted by the US Congress for Iraqi reconstruction is mostly committed or spent, with large amounts diverted to security, prisons and trials. The administration does not intend to ask for any more. I'd say this is a good bellwether of administration intentions. If the US were staying in Iraq in a big way, and still hoping to make a significant place for the multinationals there, it would have to bite the bullet and continue to try to do reconstruction. If the Bush administration is throwing in the towel, then whether Iraqis have enough electricity really isn't its problem any more.

The political and propaganda effectiveness of the guerrilla movement is demonstrated in the article. Apparently, the US has been deprived of any credit for any of its good works in Iraq (70% of Iraqis don't even know about them), and has been deprived of the good will that might have come from getting the services functioning and the oil flowing freely.

There is an error in the WaPo article, which quotes Iraqi oil production as 2 billion barrels a day a day. That should be 2 million, and will no doubt be corrected on the web. But that still isn't right. They weren't able to do more than an average of 1.8 million in 2005, last I knew, and in December it was less. 200,000 barrels of petroleum a day is significant enough so that it can't just be rounded up.



http://www.juancole.com/2006/01/guerrillas-target-...



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PVK Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:58 PM
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12. One big problem. OPEC doesn't want Iraq increasing oil production.
So how can they raise the $?
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