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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:15 PM
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Unemployment and Immigration Study (cspan)-thread 2


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:17 PM
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1. I think this is the 'balance" to the AFL/CIO segment that was just on.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:18 PM
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2. this is based on data that Gov collects.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:18 PM
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3. Center for Immigration Studies (cis.org)---the study is at the website
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:19 PM
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4. talking of people with low levels of education-not doing good economically
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:21 PM
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5. saying the idea that there are jobs that Americans won't do is a myth.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:24 PM
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9. I believe that
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1212/p14s01-cogn.html
Read Myth #2 at above link


Thanks for the heads-up. Am watching this on C-SPAN now.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:24 PM
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7. So refusing to educate immigrants is not a good strategy
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:23 PM
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6. 473 categories of employment are used in this study
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:24 PM
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8. I like the first segment better (1st thread)---
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:25 PM
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10. but it is interesting how this myth is dispelled!
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:47 PM
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11. Unemployment rate for American unskilled workers 13%. Competition
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 02:55 PM by IsItJustMe
can be hell in our capitalistic society, especially cruel to poor people.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:54 PM
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12. the periods of the most robust, healthy and broadbased growth always
took place with unfettered or wide-open immigration policies.

If we draw in people who want to suceed, they will do so, adding to the tapestry of America and to its wealth (in every sense of the world)

Today's anti-immigration people remind me of today's Bushitas and corporate leaders. it is not enough to be doing well or very well, or even extraordinarily well financially; Everyone else has to be suffering before they feel totally vindicated and successful. Applied to immigration, (considering that everyone in this country is a bloody immigrant or offspring of) these people cannot stand the idea that immigrants might succeed and do well here, that they might better their lives and improve ours in the process, or that open immigration actually helps everyone in our country.

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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 03:00 PM
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13. Simplistic platitudes don't work. This is a very complicated issue with
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 03:07 PM by IsItJustMe
far reaching effects on every aspect of our society. To simply say that people are anti-immigration and vindictive because they see major problems is dismissive at best and serves no purpose for a healthy debate.

As with any issue, Illegal immigration is neither the cause of all ills nor is it a panacea.

I car about immigrants and yet I also care about unskilled American workers. I don't think it has to be an either/or situation however.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 03:40 PM
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14. I didn't see much of it, but what I did see seemed to try to
address the issues instead of propagandize.
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