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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:18 PM
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Over 200 people have written the judge requesting leniency for Abramoff
you think he deserves it?

Abramoff will be sentenced tomorrow.

Out of that number, there was one Congressman who wrote: Dana Rohrbacher.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:19 PM
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1. It would be interesting to know the names of the other 199. n/t
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:21 PM
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2. As Dana Milbank just said, this isn't the BIG ONE!
This is the cruise line scandle, and the sentence, and doesn't even come close to what he could get from the other charges that haven't come to trial yet!

Does he deserve lienency? Of course not! But I'm much more concerned about the LONG sentence he gets from bribery, colusion, and the rest.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:21 PM
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3. Why do they want leniency for him?
Do they feel sorry for him or something? I don't. The only way I could support leniency is for the really really juicy dirt on the Bushista's.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:21 PM
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4. They probably misspelled
"death penalty"
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:21 PM
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5. I just saw that
and no he doesn't dererve leniency
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:22 PM
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6. 200 people isn't very many, considering his roladex
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:28 PM
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8. I was just thinking the same thing
In fact, I'd hide the fact that ONLY 200 people came to my defense!


I hope he gets back seven-fold all the evil and greed he put out there.


;)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:35 PM
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10. Ooooh, yes! Seven-fold return on his investment!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:24 PM
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7. I say all DU users send letters requesting the maximum nm
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:29 PM
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9. Pillar of the community
Someone should read a copy of the emails where he called the natives he was gleefully ripping off to the tune of millions of dollars "monkeys" and "idiot troglodytes."
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:39 PM
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11. What do those 200 get in return? Will Abramoff keep their secrets?
or did he bribe them? I could see his immediate family writing letters (grandma's are cool like that), but for anyone not related to the idiot there must be a reason they wrote letters to the judge.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:42 PM
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12. seems like we could easily get 20,000 to write the judge to throw the book
at him.

And that's just at DU.....
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:02 PM
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16. Yes, and it would be worthwhile to do it. Anyone know the address? n/t
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:31 PM
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13. I'd be willing to trade convictions for years
If Abramoff gives us names that lead to convictions, here's what I'd do for him...

Someone below the level of congressman: one year per name, maximum of five years.
Congressmen and senators: two years per name, maximum of six years.
Anyone working at the White House except for Bush: five years per name, maximum of ten years.

If he gives up Bush, Bush is impeached and removed (or see the scenario below), then subsequently tried in criminal court, convicted and jailed, we give Abramoff three years in Club Fed and revoke his lobbyist's license.

The scenario below: Bush doesn't need to be impeached to be gone. There are other ways--in countries with a longer history of monarchy than this one has, it's called a palace coup. Quit your shuddering, you over there in the corner; this is how they got rid of Nixon. I believe that if Bush's shitty approval ratings start to endanger the Republicans in Congress because they're the ones who make it possible for Bush to be a crook, a number of high-level Repukes will pay a visit to Mr. Bush in the White House. They will present him two choices:

Choice One: Vice President Cheney resigns. He is to be replaced by a nice bland old-school Republican, preferably one from outside the Beltway who is not named Bush. Dirk Kempthorne would be halfway acceptable. Or he can just face the music and appoint Senator Kerry as Cheney's replacement. A couple of months later, Bush resigns with full pension. President Kempthorne (or President Kerry) will pardon him and he can go back to Crawford, live off his investments and ride bikes for the rest of his life.

Choice Two: "We'll start by impeaching Vice President Cheney. We will choose a Democrat to be Speaker of the House--nothing in the House rules says we can't--because we're going to stick our fingers in our ears and make loud funny noises so we can't hear who you nominate to replace him as we impeach you and we think it would be lots of fun to dump all the shit you broke on a Democrat. And considering how the Democrats managed to fix your father's fuckups, if we get a Democratic president in there right now and work with him we might actually be able to take credit for fixing your mess. And you'll go down in history as the first president to be removed by impeachment. Now let us tell you what this really means to you. According to the Constitution, the only punishment that can be applied to a president who commits crimes while in office is removal from that office. Fortunately for us and unfortunately for you, the Constitution does not say what to do with a president who's committed so many crimes they can't be counted. So here's how we're going to play it. We figure you committed tens of thousands of crimes. We also know that it only takes one to impeach you. We've decided to choose twelve kinda middle-of-the-road crimes and use them to throw you out of office. Then we're going to take five hundred of your really bad crimes and use them to get you the death penalty. And because they're war crimes, the only possible way we can execute you is by firing squad. Would you like to face New York police officers who were on duty on 9/11...or infantrymen who lost legs in Iraq?"
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:52 PM
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14. His Orthodoxy and the plight of his children will cause an outpouring of
sentiments for him. He was a "victim" and it's sad to see a family man like him (what...isn't it six children?) who walked to school in socks and did his best for America just go down like this.

It's very sad...isn't it. He was a Great American Family Man...and his wife and children really need him...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:54 PM
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15. Hanging is too good for that lowlife motherfucker
he deserves no mercy
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MoeHayNow Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:31 PM
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17. Morans! n/t
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