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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:44 AM
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Rep. Brown-Waite responds to my LTTE:
My letter to Rep. Brown-Waite, which I copied my local paper on, was published:

"I was watching C-Span this morning and was shocked and disgusted by your absurd display of partisan pettiness. You stood up in objection to designating the boyhood home of William Jefferson Clinton as a historic landmark. This is a standard honor for those who served in this office.

For you to take issue with this legislation is beyond the pale, when you seem to serve only as a rubber-stamp for this Administration on issues of real importance.

To stand up in the House of Representatives and claim that Bill Clinton "brokered" the Dubai ports deal is embarrassing to me, as one of your unhappy constituents. You should be ashamed. All other speakers, Republican and Democrat, support this. You are alone in this; maybe you should wonder why.

I can only hope your taking your personal dislike for Mr. Clinton to the floor like that, and in the process wasting the Congress' valuable time, will come back to haunt you on election day."


Her response:

Dear ___,

Thank you for your recent correspondence about former President Clinton and the Dubai Ports World deal. I appreciate the opportunity to respond to your comments.

As you know, since you personally wrote to me to share your concerns, the Dubai Ports World port sale has elicited much alarm among Americans everywhere. In taking over the British company through the buyout, Dubai Ports World would now be managing and operating six ports in areas such as New York , Baltimore , New Orleans , and Miami . Aside from the fact that another country would have any say in operation of our ports, U.S. officials have long suspected that the United Arab Emirates has ties to terrorist organizations and that the country has been a transfer point for shipment of nuclear materials to Iran and North Korea. As I already shared with you, I immediately wrote to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff, Department of Treasury Secretary Snow, and President Bush calling for an investigation of the deal. America 's security is not something we should sell to a United Arab Emirates-owned company for the sake of financial gain.

Because of my position on this issue, you can imagine how shocked I was to read in the news that former President Bill Clinton has a close relationship with the United Arab Emirates and advised the company on this deal. The crown prince of Dubai reportedly contributed to his presidential library and pays Mr. Clinton $300,000 per speech. Mr. Clinton is also a senior advisor to an American company in close partnership with the Dubai Investment Group.

I felt my constituents, outraged over this deal, deserved answers from the former President about his involvement in the deal, how much money he made from it, and the depth and breadth of his connections to the country. As such, when the House of Representatives moved to pass H.R. 4192, a bill to designate President Clinton's birthplace home as a historic landmark, I objected. This was not a partisan attack, and I must point out that I do not oppose this bill - I appreciate the opportunity to honor our nation's leaders and their service to our country. However, I could not in good conscience move to spend $1 million a year in taxpayer money on this initiative until President Clinton gave Americans the answers they deserved. Further, I must point out that designating a former president's birthplace as a historic landmark is not a standard honor; only 32 presidents have been so honored. Former Presidents George Bush and Ronald Reagan! n whose service to our nation predated President Clinton's have not had legislation recognizing their birthplaces.

Thankfully, Mr. Clinton did respond and answer ed my questions in the media. Americans deserve serious answers to these serious questions, and I am proud to have accomplished this by calling for a serious debate on the bill.

Sincerely,

Ginny Brown-Waite
Member of Congress


Now Reagan's boyhood home HAS been honored and George H.W.'s boyhood home is still owned by his family. GHW Bush's boyhood home on Grove Lane in Greenwich, CT is impossible to trace (for this amateur.) Is is still family owned? Has it been torn down? Can anyone help?

This ABC News article states that, "Congress has honored other past presidents, including Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan, by designating their childhood homes as national historic sites." and would appear to be verified here and National Register of Historic Places lists the boyhood home of George [b>W. Bush.

My question - do I call her on this in the newspaper? Or is it too petty to bother with?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:46 AM
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1. I would respond. You've obviously touched a nerve so
I wouldn't allow her the last word. Good job. :applause:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:03 PM
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2. If she's shocked about Clinton having a contribution from the Dubai
prince to his library, I wonder how shocked she would be to find out that the Dubai company contributed what, a cool million to the GHWB pres. library?

Whoops . . .
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 01:08 PM
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3. really?
Do you have a link?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:18 PM
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4. Sorry, no, but
I had heard that there was a sum donated to the Bush 41's library by the UAE/Dubai company . . . Wish I could find it . . .
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:35 PM
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5. I googled it, but no MSM stuff came up
I don't think Rep. Brown-Waite will put much stock in lefty news sites. Darn it. I know that the ones that came up are accurate - but need a CNN or NBC link, ya' know.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:33 AM
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8. Here's an MSNBC link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11537914/

Last paragraph: "The United Arab Emirates has long-standing ties to the Bush family. Records show the UAE and one of its sheikhs contributed at least $1 million before 1995 to the Bush Library Foundation, which established the George Bush Presidential Library in College Station, Texas. The executive chairman of Dubai Ports World, Ahmed bin Sulayem, is not listed among donors."

Since Brown-Waite is so darned interested in people who have financial ties to the UAE and Dubai Ports World, you might point out to her that the new Asst Sec of Transportation Marine Administration, David Sanborn, was director of operations for Dubai WP Latin America and European sectors when Bush** tapped him for the job last month. One of the deals Sanborn brokered while with DPW was the purchase of the South American and Asia port operations from CSX...a company he and Treasury Sec John Snow both worked for in the recent past.

And remember, it was the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), chaired by Snow, which decided the DPW US ports deal was okay...without informing anyone, so Bush** claimed.

So ask her, Clinton or Bush**/Snow/Sanborn...What smells more?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:22 PM
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11. Thank you!
So I should respond?
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:58 PM
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13. Yes, absolutely. I would start by thanking her for giving you some insight
into her reasons for objecting to the Clinton boyhood home issue.

I would then ask if we can then look forward to her objecting, for the same reasons, to the Bush boyhood home having already been honored. I would then give the information to her, and provide a link.

I would also take the opportunity, since she opened the door, to ask her, very politely, how she feels about the business relationship between the Bush and Bin Laden families for so many years, being that she's so passionate about these matters. And I would find a link to provide the readers with for that also.

What a great opportunity to use their own tactics against them. Use her own letter to bring up information the media doesn't cover and which many readers may not be aware of.

Maybe a few other people could respond to her also, with some more 'stuff' regarding the nefarious dealings of the Bush family with the supposed enemies of the US!

Your first letter was great. Don't let her change the subject without learning that we like this subject also and her little tactic is about to totally backfire.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:02 PM
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22. Oh - wonderful!
I am off to Chuck E. Cheese's. My littlest baby just lost his first tooth and we are celebrating. I will rework it tonight.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:08 AM
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6. So what if they haven't "recognized" Raygun's birthplace.



They rewrote the law so that they could name a five billion dollar aircraft carrier after his sorry ass.


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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:33 AM
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7. And an airport! n/t
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:39 AM
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9. and a postage stamp
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:43 AM
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10. Even in this twit's home state FL
they renamed the FL Turnpike after Raygun and he never even lived here.

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 02:56 PM
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12. Please look at this response from me:
Rep. Brown-Waite,

I appreciate your taking time to respond to my letter, however, I must differ with you on several issues. Regarding your statement that former Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush’s boyhood home not being landmarks; During the 107th U.S. Congress (2001-2002), Resolution H.R. 400 was introduced by Rep. J. Dennis Hastert (R-Il) to authorize the Secretary of the Interior to establish the Ronald Reagan Boyhood Home National Historic Site – this was passed into law.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h107-400.

George H.W. Bush still uses his childhood residence as a private home. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker's_Point>
“The Bush Compound was the place where President George H. W. Bush spent much of his childhood. As an adult, George H. W. Bush raised his own children, President George W. Bush, Governor Jeb Bush, Marvin Bush, Neil Bush, Dorothy Bush, and Robin Bush on the Compound. The George H. W. Bush family spent most summers at the estate, as well as family weddings, holidays, and receptions. Currently, President George W. Bush visits the compound several times a year to gather with his family.”

However, his son, George W. Bush’s childhood home has already been designated a historic landmark <http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/tx/Midland/state.html> even though he is still serving as President. You also don't seem to have much of a problem with his having accepted over twice as much Bill Clinton for his Presidential Library.

This MSNBC article <http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11537914> lets us know that, “The United Arab Emirates has long-standing ties to the Bush family. Records show the UAE and one of its sheikhs contributed at least $1 million before 1995 to the Bush Library Foundation, which established the George Bush Presidential Library in College Station, Texas.” And I think we all know how hard President Bush lobbied lawmakers to accept the Dubai Ports deal.

While I applaud your taking time to contact one of your constituents personally, your argument is very weak and your actions that day still look like nothing more than grandstanding and bitter partisanship to me.

Sincerely,
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:13 PM
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14. Excellent letter ~
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:26 PM
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15. it seems choppy to me - any suggestions before I send it?
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:43 PM
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17. Mail it. I don't see it as choppy at all.
I really like your close.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:38 PM
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25. I actually thought it was perfect ~ you refuted the false statements she
made with back-up and then exposed the Bush family's profiting from their dealings with the UAE ~ something she apparently either didn't know, or doesn't care about.

The only thing I might add is to suggest that she be as willing to expose any perceived or actual conflict of interest of members of her own party as she was regarding Democrats. She is meant to represent all the people, not just Republicans which goes back to your excellent finishing point, she is nothing more than a partisan hack ~ (although you said it much better than that).

She changed the subject, and no doubt she thought she did so brilliantly. That is their tactic always. They think we are dumb and uninformed. Your second letter should cause her to realize that this was a big mistake. And you did it beautifully, imo.

That's wonderful about the baby's first tooth ~ :-)
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:26 PM
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16. You beat the hell out of her! ... Feels good, doesn't it?
Isn't she the one whose hubbie was convicted of stealing lawn signs?

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:45 PM
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18. Yup.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:54 PM
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19. Me - I would just change one little thing ....
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 03:54 PM by stop the bleeding
While I applaud your taking time to contact one of your constituents personally, your argument is very weak and your actions that day still look like nothing more than grandstanding and bitter partisanship to me.

I would change this to something with a little more umpf or something.

While I applaud your taking time to contact one of your constituents personally, your argument holds no merit and therefor is disingenuous, and your actions that day still look like nothing more than grandstanding and bitter partisanship to me.


Remember this is just my humble O
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:55 PM
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20. thanks for that -
I was hoping for some good critique. If this is going to be a public brawl, I want it to be an effective one (on my part.)
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:01 PM
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21. With that change, send it, AND send it to the paper,
WITH the first response.

Go get 'em, killer!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:21 PM
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23. Yep the St Pete Times, and the Trib even though the Trib will throw it
in the trash can. What about also the Weekly Planet - very liberal but has a lot of readers.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:24 PM
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24. Cool - I am always afraid to suggest changes -
BTW thanks for doing this - She needs all the REAL facts that she can get/ we can give her.

St Pete Times
Tampa Tribune
Weekly Planet
WUSF 88.5
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