Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

God is Indifferent to Heart Patients

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:50 PM
Original message
God is Indifferent to Heart Patients
CHICAGO (Reuters) - A study of more than 1,800 patients who underwent heart bypass surgery has failed to show that prayers specially organized for their recovery had any impact, researchers said on Thursday.

In fact, the study found some of the patients who knew they were being prayed for did worse than others who were only told they might be prayed for -- though those who did the study said they could not explain why.

The patients in the study at six U.S. hospitals included 604 who were actually prayed for after being told they might or might not be; another 597 patients who were not prayed for after being told they might or might not be; and a group of 601 who were prayed for and told they would be the subject of such prayer.

The praying was done by members of three Christian groups in monasteries and elsewhere -- two Catholic and one Protestant -- who were given written prayers and the first name and initial of the last name of the prayer subjects. The prayers started on the eve of or day of surgery and lasted for two weeks.

Among the first group -- who were prayed for but only told they might be -- 52 percent had post-surgical complications compared to 51 percent in the second group, the ones who were not prayed for though told they might be. In the third group, who knew they were being prayed for, 59 percent had complications.

After 30 days, however, the death rates and incidence of major complications was about the same across all three groups, said the study published in the American Heart Journal.

COMPLICATIONS AFTER SURGERY

"Intercessory prayer itself had no effect on whether complications occurred (and) patients who were certain that intercessors would pray for them had a higher rate of complications than patients who were uncertain but did receive intercessory prayer," the study said.

... http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2006-03-30T204217Z_01_N30395850_RTRUKOC_0_US-PRAYER.xml&rpc=22>

-----------------------------------------------


I wonder if prayer is more effective with non-cardiac health issues. Maybe God has some sort of bias against atherosclerosis??

Also, the results of this study actually suggest that awareness of intercessory prayer actually INCREASES the possibility of heart disease complications!!! Does this mean that prayer groups can be sued for medical injury?? :)

J
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:55 PM
Response to Original message
1. Maybe God just isn't accepting Christian prayers these days, since
they're the ones who did the praying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:57 PM
Response to Original message
2. The fundies are such warped little idiots
If such a study were to ever show prayer had any positive effect, no matter how small, they would never stop talking about it. But, of course, after the waste of money, there is no demonstrable effect, so they turn to Plan B - attack the research.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BeyondThePale Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:59 PM
Response to Original message
3. Perhaps god didn't accept their insurance?
They need to find a god on the provider list!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 09:15 PM
Response to Original message
4. Maybe God knows prayer when God hears it. /nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 06:20 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC