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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:12 PM
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What is the United States up against in Iran?
I am not sure how accurate this video is, but from all accounts I've read in the recent past, it doesn't seem to be too far off from what I've read:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8884648292925739980&q=iran

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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:15 PM
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they would put up a very short fight
Edited on Sun Jan-08-06 10:15 PM by Brundle_Fly
and resort to insurgent tactics.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:15 PM
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1. they would put up a bery short fight
and resort to insurgent tactics.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:27 PM
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4. I think the appropriate term is
Guerrilla Warfare. or at least Partisan Resistance
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:18 AM
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9. insurgency is fine
its terrorist, or thug that is the incorrect term
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:14 PM
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21. Insurgency implies rebellion against the authorities
resistance on the other hand implies resistance. Iran has an elected Govt.They would all be deputized.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:21 PM
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2. They can be pummeled from the air for the rest of the year
but actually occupying a place with so many mountains would be a strategic and tactical nightmare...
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:21 PM
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3. Nothing but hype.
this is a dud.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:28 PM
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5. Haha
Where the Sunburn Missile.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:30 PM
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6. The US is up against Iran and Russia. And maybe China. Iran
has a real army and air force. They have missle and I would be they are pointed toward Israel and our troops in Iraq.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:40 PM
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7. Iran; A Bridge Too Far
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7147.htm

Tens of thousands of US dead, at the very least. And there is no way on earth the US could occupy Iran.

Iraq was one of the weakest 3rd world nations on the planet...Iran is not. Funny how rightwingnuts think Iran is as weak as Iraq. Iran also has defense pacts with some powerful nations. That and of course the world may finally decide enough is bloody well enough; time to put an end to the rogue nation of bushica.

And then there's Pakistan. Pakistan hates our guts. One man stands between Pakistan's nukes and us...and he was almost assassinated 3 times last year. Pakistan likes Iran.

Actually no one likes us anymore; we're seen as the #1 threat to the world.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:42 PM
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8. Actually they're pointed at the 2 entire US fleets sitting in the Gulf.
Tens of thousands of American troops trapped in the bullseye.

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:19 AM
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10. Funny you should ask
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:23 AM
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11. Iran has other "weapons" as well....
Clout with Muslims, Huge Oil Supply, Access to the Red sea, etc
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:27 AM
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12. I made a prediction about this earlier this month
It's not good... and Iran faces getting nuked if we do attack Iran... for the simple reason that they do have a reasonably strong military.

Read what I posted and let me know what you think (it's already been archived):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=45084

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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:59 AM
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13. Problem with nuking Iran is they nuke the oil too. Mike Ruppert
said any disruption of Iranian oil will bring everyone against us because things are bad enough with oil demand and to take 30-40% offline over - whatever they're doing in Washingon - with not go over well with the entire rest of the world. And what are we going to do with most of the military dead and no oil.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:23 AM
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15. "will not go over well with the entire rest of the world"
And that has stopped the administration when?

Also, if Iran blocks the oil, guess what happens? Oil skyrockets in price... who benefits? Not you or I, but just about everyone involved in the administration. Look at the graph in my sig line. Any action that raises the price of oil is one the current administration would like to execute.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 09:08 AM
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18. True on the first count. But not only will Iran block the oil. So will
everyone else. End of oil flow. Forget prices. The country would grind to a halt.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:02 AM
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14. if we attack,
they block the straits of Hormuz, with mines, or their own sunken ships,
if necessary.
Presto, Oil is blocked to western world -
and see what happens.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:25 AM
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16. Causing the prices of oil to skyrocket...exactly what this admin wants
Their actions have been consistent: a foreign policy that causes the price of oil to rise and the oil-industry to prosper.

Think of the financial implications to North American based oil industry...
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:38 AM
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17. WWIII ...Iran will have China beside it...
and possibly Russia...

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 09:27 AM
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19. I do not think
that there is any significant chance that either China or Russia would become involved as a nation. In fact, both have concerns about growing Muslim populations, either within their territories or at the edges, that are being drawn to a pan-Islamic movement.

China has an agreement with Iran for oil; Russia had just signed one with Iraq. In both cases, their concern is commerce and an energy supply, not supporting a Saddam or an Islamic government. China enjoys a pretty favorable trade status with the US.

What is, in my opinion, of far more concern would be the reaction of those Islamic peoples in the Middle East and throughout Asia. That is where a "world war" is a greater potential. Again, when we think in terms of commerce, it is known that when the USSR broke up, that about 20 "suitcase" nuclear weapons went missing. Someone bought them. A series of air strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities will result in a response from forces that are in the shadows, so to speak.

Most of us probably remember being taught in grade school about the American Revolutionary War. The British were vulnerable for a couple reasons: first, as an empire, they were too far away from home; second, they were trapped in a "formal" state of mind, and the colonists had learned from the tribal people of the northeast how to fight "informally" .... from the shadows of the forest, so to speak. We've traded places with the British crown, and are too often trapped in viewing the Middle East in terms of the "boundries" that the western world imposed in the first half of the last century.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 09:31 AM
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20. Yikes!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:17 PM
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22. They have WMD potential - evil doers and all that garbage!
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