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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:03 AM
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Priest on Schiavo’s 'Attack' on DeLay: "Real Men don't kill their wives"
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 03:04 AM by Bluebear
:crazy:

To: National Desk

Contact: Jason Jones, Media Director for Human Life International, 540-551-0217, jjones@hli.org

FRONT ROYAL, Va., April 5 /Christian Wire Service/ -- The Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer, President of Human Life International (HLI), responds to Michael Schiavo’s attack on Tom Delay.

“Michael Schiavo’s attack on Tom DeLay upon his resignation is absurd on the face of it and another attempt at the pathetic justification of a guilty conscience on the part of Michael.

“Schiavo should be embarrassed by the judicial killing of his wife because the whole incident served to show the world his brutality and moral cowardice.

“Real men don’t kill their wives, and if Michael Sciavo had been half the man Tom DeLay was in defending Terri she would still be alive today.

“History will remember Michael Schiavo as a monster and Tom Delay as a hero.

“Human Life International is encouraging everyone to go to our website www.hli.org and sign the Thank You Tom Delay Letter commending him for his courage and his commitment to creating a culture-of-life...” concluded the Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer.

Founded in 1981, Human Life International is the world’s largest pro-life, pro-family organization that is dedicated to defending life, faith and the family, with branches and affiliates around the world.

http://www.earnedmedia.org/hli0405.htm
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:07 AM
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1. Are these same people who support Bush, a person who has slaughtered...
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 03:14 AM by wake.up.america
Tens of thousands of Iraqi men, women and children?

Are these the same people who have no regard for the laws designed to protect the lives of pregnant women?




Goes to show that Lewis Carroll is alive and well in American politics.

"Founded in 1981, Human Life International is the world’s largest pro-life, pro-family organization that is dedicated to defending life, faith and the family, with branches and affiliates around the world."
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:07 AM
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2. this guy is the definition of the lunatic fringe
:puke:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:13 AM
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4. I don't agree...this is Bush's 33% base talking
When you see a poll: "Do you think Bush is keeping us safe by killing kittens in Idaho" and 33% say YES!!! it's this type of hemorrhoid they listen to :hi:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:12 AM
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3. DeLay Pulled The Plug On His Father
And took a settlement as well. He is the scummiest of scum.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:13 AM
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5. Hey you!
How is DU's soldier doing? :) :hug:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:08 AM
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14. Hey Plastic Turkeys!
He is doing really well. I am finding that I am the one struggling now. Saturday is the sixth month anniversary of Ben's attack in Ramadi and things have settled and I've caught my breath but the enormity of the ordeal has hit me harder than ever. I am sad a good deal of the time. I want the troops home so badly. Every death just grabs my heart. I am so sick to death of Bush and his death cult, and all the hate, and all the lies, and all the suffering.


When the freeper called me a bitch last Monday and wished for Ben's death well I am still a bit freaked over that. Thanks for the hug friend.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:09 AM
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22. Here is another one...
:hug:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:13 AM
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23. That Freeper troll made me angrier than anything has ever has
I mean, anywhere, at anytime. The cruelty of it literally took my breath away. If I ever came face-to-face with "It," I would give It an am ass whipping.

Hugs, bella....
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:21 AM
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24. I wanted to reach through the monitor and pull her
fucking guts out. I'm sorry that the worst I could do was to ban her fucking stupid, pathetic, freeper scum ass.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:35 AM
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26. I'm serious, Midlo
I had my Sicilian berserker rage go through my gut. If they had been in front of me.... I honestly can't fathom having that kind od evil, vile, cruelty within you... it's literally pathological.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:52 AM
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28. Dayum... I'm so very sorry you had to add that freeper's BS to all else
you must be feeling and going through. My heart and well wishes go out to you and yours. :hug:

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:04 PM
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40. That's a horrible, mean thing to say!
Gheesh! That's truly horrible!
I had a similar experience with a "liberal" and I'm STILL pissed off about it!!
I'm sorry that somebody was that low-down and nasty to you!
They are the ignorant one and a loser!!
:mad:

Hang in there and I hope things are getting better!!

This is for you:



Peace!!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:16 AM
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6. You got that right Binka, and the Ten Commandments have a line about
Honoring Thy Father and Mother!!! The 11th Commandment doesn't say "Pull the Plug on Ma or Pa" that's for sure!
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:11 AM
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15. I Understand He Disowned His Mother/ Family After The Incident
I believe he felt they were beneath him once he started rolling in stolen cash. I wonder how Mr "I AM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT" is gonna feel when his Mama tells him to go pound sand when he asks her to visit him in the hoosegow!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:12 AM
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16. Fascinating article about him, here, from a few years back
It discusses those aspects of the guy that you noted.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A6825-2001May9?language=printer

And interestingly enough, it provides a CLUE as to the defense {IT WASN'T ME!) that he will likely use when the Feds come after him:

...When DeLay launched his impeachment jihad, he convened about 20 of his staff and had them join hands, heads bowed, in an emotional prayer session, according to The Breach by Washington Post reporter Peter Baker. "We need to pray for strength," DeLay said then, tears streaming down his cheeks. "Please know that we're not happy about doing this. We see this as our responsibility."

But the book documents an altogether different attitude behind the scenes in a contemporaneous
e-mail exchange about impeachment between two top DeLay staffers: "This whole thing about not kicking someone when they are down is BS – Not only do you kick him – you kick him until he passes out – then beat him over the head with a baseball bat – then roll him up in an old rug – and throw him off a cliff into the pound surf below!!!!!"

When I ask DeLay about this memo, he smiles. "It's not from me," he says of the staffer's e-mail. "That's his philosophy. That's not Tom DeLay. You'd have a hard time proving that I have done anything to destroy people personally." He is correct about that. Because DeLay the politician long ago learned the art of not leaving fingerprints....


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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:54 AM
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19. Just Like Cheney Booted Out Of College For Drinking
DeLay is a nasty little mean spirited narcissistic drunk. Gawd I hope he gets the DTs in the slam!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:20 AM
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7. There is no need for actual proof in their fantasy world is there
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 03:22 AM by LittleClarkie
What proof is there that Michael Schiavo killed his wife?

What proof is there that she had a brain at the end?

We have proof that he loved her. Why else do you study to become a nurse if it isn't to become a caregiver.

On their side, they have a Doctor who thinks it appropriate to diagnose a video.

On Michael's side, we have an autopsy that shows the woman nearly no brain left.

Oye shit.

On edit: let me guess, Opus Dei, right?
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:21 AM
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8. Well, that's all Michael needs
I pity that man so very much. I'd sue the FUCK out of someone for accusing me of this. How dare he?

I can't imagine the pain of having to decide this for a loved one WITHOUT a media circus, and on top of that plus years of the sadness of this I just can't imagine how he can even function. (hugs for Michael) the poor man.

And I didn't know that about DeLay unplugging his own father. I wonder how much it'd cost to get a brand made that spells HYPOCRITE? I already have a portable blowtorch around here someplace....
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:32 AM
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10. "Real Priests" dont sexually abuse kids & "Real Presidents"
dont sit on their ass for 5 days and watch hurricane victims suffer and die. Where was this holier than thou hypocrite when priests were being transferred instead of prosecuted?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:42 AM
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12. Excellent post. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:29 AM
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9. The good Rev needs to remove that self-righteous burr from his ass
He'd feel a lot better.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:36 AM
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11. This guy is a perfect illustration why so many of us have to
put the word 'lapsed' before the word 'Catholic'.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:49 AM
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32. Parishes all over the country suffer from the lack of priests...
Euteneuer would rather play political games than actually minister to his fellow Catholics.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:06 AM
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13. the rev. thomas j. euteneuer worships corpses.
seeing as ms. schiavo was already dead -- what else is there to think.

and tom delay uses corpses to benefit his career.

i'ld hate think what else these two do with dead bodies.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:23 AM
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17. This priest and those that agree with him are...
dispicable.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:31 AM
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18. it really is creepy isn't it?
it's like what part of ''she's dead'' don't you understand?
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 05:56 AM
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20. Two Narcissistic Necrophiliacs
Still fucking people even after they are dead.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:54 AM
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29. lol -- binka! -- you just made me cringe!
and that's not easy to do.
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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:08 AM
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21. Terri Schiavo was dead long before DeLay got involved.
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 06:08 AM by KyuzoGator
She had been dead for fifteen years, and the autopsy proved it. Her brain was liquefied.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:24 AM
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25. Here's my email to them:
Your group's attack on Michael Schiavo is not only disgusting, but it's incredibly hypocritical. You say real men don't kill their wives? Well, Tom DeLay did the EXACT SAME THING to his OWN FATHER in 1988:

http://www.slate.com/id/2115879/

"In 1988, Tom DeLay's 65-year-old father, Charles DeLay, suffered catastrophic brain damage and went into a coma. He had no hope of recovery but evidently reacted when his son entered the room. Although Charles DeLay had no living will, his family concluded that he would be better off dead and wouldn't want to go on living this way. Tom DeLay joined other family members in deciding to withhold dialysis. His father died."

Real Christians don't tell lies and smear innocent people. You make me sick. I would like to know how the "Reverend" Euteneur can cast these stones at Mr. Schiavo when Tom DeLay made the exact same decision in regards to his father. What does your "pro-life" group think of Tom DeLay's decision to pull the plug on HIS OWN FATHER???

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:42 AM
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31. Awesome!! Here's...
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 07:56 AM by Breeze54
mine.
~~~~~~~
Dear Sir;
Your attack on Michael Schiavo was cruel and UN-christian!
That woman was all ready brain dead and for you to villify
Michael Shiavo, is beyond comprehension! Face the facts!
Terri Shiavo was all ready brain dead!!
Stop using her as your poster child!
Real Christians don't LIE but apparently Tom Delay does!
If anybody is a coward? It IS Tom Delay!
What mental illness do supposed Christian Fundies suffer from?
What makes you so callous and un-godly? Is it the Kool-Aid?
Stop drinking the RED Koolaid then!
You are nothing but hypocrites!!!
You make me sick!


:mad:


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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:13 AM
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34. Excellent!!!!!!
:yourock:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:44 AM
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27. another theocrat happy to show America what they would enact
were they in FULL power ... prevention of living wills.

Somehow these folks are always silent when the issue is life saving procedures/medicines etc being cut off for financial reasons by insurance or for profit hospitals.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:41 PM
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42. A wonderful point, salin.
"happy to show America what they would enact were they in FULL power."
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:35 AM
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30. kick
:kick:
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:52 AM
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33. Do 'real men' kill their fathers?
Delay did pull the plug on his father.

Oh wait, I get it...it's only if you have a white female involved that it's not OK.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:52 AM
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35. I asked that in my email to them
Your group's attack on Michael Schiavo is not only disgusting, but it's incredibly hypocritical. You say real men don't kill their wives? Well, Tom DeLay did the EXACT SAME THING to his OWN FATHER in 1988:

http://www.slate.com/id/2115879 /

"In 1988, Tom DeLay's 65-year-old father, Charles DeLay, suffered catastrophic brain damage and went into a coma. He had no hope of recovery but evidently reacted when his son entered the room. Although Charles DeLay had no living will, his family concluded that he would be better off dead and wouldn't want to go on living this way. Tom DeLay joined other family members in deciding to withhold dialysis. His father died."

Real Christians don't tell lies and smear innocent people. You make me sick. I would like to know how the "Reverend" Euteneur can cast these stones at Mr. Schiavo when Tom DeLay made the exact same decision in regards to his father. What does your "pro-life" group think of Tom DeLay's decision to pull the plug on HIS OWN FATHER???


:grr: These people are so sickening.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:04 AM
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36. remember when priests believed "what God has joined,
... let no man put asunder?"
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:06 AM
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37. What a disgusting pig. The ultra religious and the corporatists have
truly entered an unholy bargain for our bodies and (what they believe to be) souls.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:54 AM
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38. Couldn't help myself:
I just sent the following to that ass. Christians on the board, Please forgive me for writing this as though I were a Christian. That's a little hypocrisy on my own part, but I felt a message from a Christian would have more weight than one from an atheist.

"Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer should be ashamed of himself for advocating artificially keeping brain dead people alive and preventing them from joining their Father in Heaven. The Reverend should concern himself with those people who are very alive and want to stay that way - the poor, the starving, and our brave young service people, giving up their lives every day in Mr. Bush's "war." He also perhaps should look at the photos of the dead children and babies the US has killed because of peripheral "damage" in that "war."

In addition, rather than receiving great praise, perhaps Mr. DeLay should concentrate on being a real Christian, rather than a temple money changer. Words do not make a Christian. Trying to live life as Christ would have done is being Christian. Mr. DeLay has yet to show any Christ-like behavior, although he does a good job of bragging about his Christianity.

I am sure the Reverend also understands that Mr. DeLay pulled the plug on his own father. Who knows how many years Mr. DeLay's father could have been kept from his Father in Heaven by artificial means. Jesus didn't much care for hypocrites.

Yours in Christ,
XXXXXXXX"
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:50 AM
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39. Spoken like a TRUE atheist.!!
:rofl:
J/K!! ;)

Great letter!!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:52 PM
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43. Bravo! nt
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:05 PM
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41. Tom only likes women who aren't "know it alls"
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:35 PM
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44. kick
:kick:
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