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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:31 PM
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Isikoff on MSNBC now - 2:31
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 01:34 PM by FLDem5
on Plame.

his is discussing WMDs right now.

'what Libby disclosed... to Judy Miller.. were those aspects of the NIE that supported the administration, he did not disclose the dissent.'

'they were AUTHORIZED leaks, much like this one was.'

'although it is an interesting development, it is not important. The President has the authority to desclassify what he wants.'
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:33 PM
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1. Have it on now.
Thanks.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:33 PM
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2. for those of us who can't hear this at work: what's he saying?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:33 PM
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4. I am updating as I can, check OP
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:36 PM
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7. K &
R!
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:33 PM
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3. What his take on this? Is he playing it safe
or telling the truth?

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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:35 PM
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5. "The pres has the right to declassify ANYTHING he wants"
Yep, he actually said that.

Clueless.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:36 PM
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9. Isikoff, recall, was Linda Tripp's friend...
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:38 PM
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14. Moreover, he told the public he wants to find the leaker.
How many laws are they going to break and then have rewritten or reinterpreted.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:36 PM
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6. He is saying what Tom Oliphant just said on Franken's show.
Bush directed Libby to leak the parts of the intelligence that supported them but they, of course, left out all the caveats included in the intelligence reports - such as leaking that the tubes could only be used for nukes but not leaking the State Dept. and Energy Dept. both saying the tubes could NOT be used for nukes, instead they could only be used for missiles.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:02 PM
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20. we would call that selective leaking
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:36 PM
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8. If the President declassifies, wouldn't it then be available to
anyone under FOIA, not just to say, Woodward?

They can't have it both ways. They can't say that they declassified it when Woodward looked at it, then reclassified it after he was done with it, can they?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:36 PM
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10. I don't know.
I wish there was more coverage - I have questions and no answers.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:03 PM
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21. Good point. Regardless of Isokoff's lame attempt at minimizing
the nitwit's ability to classify information, he won't be able to defend the obstruction of justice charge. The nitwit's public statements about "finding the leaker & punishing him" defy any defense of his withholding important information from the investigation.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:36 PM
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11. "Interesting development, not important."
Hmmm. Bill Schneider disagreed on CNN. He said the new testimony strikes a huge blow at Bush's already-disintegrating political credibility.

What is Isikoff's problem?!? The President lied when he pretended not to know the identity of the leakers... isn't that, at least, "important"?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:37 PM
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13. he was not under oath - they are all saying this is only political
and he ratings are already in the toilet.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:41 PM
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17. Difference between leaking NIE info vs leaking Plame info. Libby's
tetimony (which isn't new and was referred to in Fitz's letter to the defense in early February) doesn't say that Cheney/Bush authorized leak of Plame info.

But clearly the Administration has a problem when info is leaked that they don't want leaked while it leaks info to suit its own purposes.
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:49 PM
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18. It would be important to Isikoff
if Bush got a bj from Cheney.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:05 PM
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23. Isikoff's Problem, Ma'am
Is that he sold his soul for half a can of bacon grease in the attempted Coup against President Clinton, and cannot ever escape the consequences....

"Kill one, warn one hundred."
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:23 PM
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28. lmao!
You got that right about Isikoff.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:07 PM
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24. Bush has to explain why he didn't have a clue who leaked Plame's identity.
That's the bottom line. Isikoff is shilling for the WH, again.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:37 PM
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12. HA HA--"you should be ashamed of your policies'-from the audience
where bush spoke today. they actually just reported it.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:39 PM
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16. too funny.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:04 PM
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22. LOL---wonder who sneaked that one by. Bubbleboy doesn't like getting
his balloon pierced
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:38 PM
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15. Rove sends "Spikey" to the rescue....nothing to see here according to
"Spikey" because Woodward had it all in his book. This President declassifies information all the time and it's not illegal for him to do it. He was just leaking to make his case for war...but everyone knew...blah...blah...blah.

He must have gotten a big payoff for Linda Tripp and the Blue Dress. He doesn't even have to work anymore for a story...he's just a stenographer..
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:15 PM
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25. EVERYONE KNEW? Oh, yeah, like I knew when I was listening to the pundits
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 02:16 PM by wordpix
in 2002 that there were no WMD in Iraq, the aluminum tubes WEREN'T for nukes and I knew that Saddam DID NOT have ties to al Quaeda and I knew the smoking gun WOULD NOT be a mushroom cloud.

When BushCo made its case for war, I was reading NYT and WaPo, listening to NPR and watching NPTV, MSM and cable news. I thought I was well educated on the issues but I was on the fence about going to war in Iraq because I did not know if BushCo was telling the truth and people like Hans Blix were telling a different story. BushCo made a compelling case for the Iraq War and the media and Congress swallowed it whole. I sat on the fence at the time.

So EVERYONE DID NOT KNOW about BushCo lies at the time he told them soon after 9-11. Now we DO KNOW: BushCo is a corporate whore that has lied to Congress and the American people and engaged in criminal activities including perpetrating a fraud on us all to go to war.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:57 PM
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19. Do NOT...I repeat...do NOT look at the elephant in the room!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:18 PM
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26. Isikoff can't be trusted in whatever he says!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:22 PM
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27. shows what an asshole Isikoff is. Tom Oliphant, on AAR,
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 02:23 PM by Gabi Hayes
said this shows how utterly corrupt, venal, cynical, dishonest (my characterization) the regime is. he prefaced his remarks by saying he didn't have to pull any punches

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