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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:45 PM
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We are gonna need to purge our Military someday soon.
I'm sorry but there are too many that are involved in this Argentina style military junta,
who are in collusion with the military industrial complex, the neocons and anti democratic ideals.

But remember to support our troops


end rant.

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ChristianLibrul Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:47 PM
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1. Good luck
Pentagon generals have whored for defense contractors since well before WWII. There's a long line of folks waiting for a turn.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:49 PM
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2. military is going to take care it itself--just like in Latin America
where military got sick of being the bad guys.

One way to keep this from happening again is to weld shut the door from the Pentagon to corporate America.

No one who works in procurement or war planning should ever be able to profit from those after they leave the service. If they do, the same thing should happen to them that should happen to senators, the president and vice president: they should at minimum lose their pensions and benefits for life.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:58 PM
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7. Agreed, that would be a nice bill to pass in a Democratic congress
I would like to see that but I'm an optimist and also a realist that can only hope we may see that in our children's future.

After Abu Ghraib prison I knew that something was terrible wrong, then Guantánamo Bay, then even more stories of
Iraq, etc.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:12 PM
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9. It is imperative to put these strict rules in place.
Who is it going to hurt?

4-stars with a very healthy pension and otherwise great job outlooks.

The corporate influence $$$$$$$$ on top generals is too much.

Generals also wield political power so this is doubly imperative.

NO top officers go to work for defense contractors. NONE! <<< Should be the rule.

I think there is a one-year wait now or something that is totally ineffective.




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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:51 PM
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3. And the secret services, and the government
and the banking system. And i probably forgot some.
It's a heck of a job.



THE SMEDLEY BUTLER SOCIETY
http://warisaracket.org/
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:51 PM
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4. Unfortunately, you can put that in the fat chance catagory.
The politicians have been the lapdogs of the military since WWII. They're all on the payroll of the same corporat\ions.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:52 PM
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5. Vietnam troops rebelled (new DOCUMENTARY FILM)
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 12:56 PM
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6. conscripts rebelled
not bloody-minded volunteers.

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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:07 PM
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8. That is not necessarily fair to the people serving.
To many it was an avenue to viable career skills training, entry to college, or even a hefty chunk of cash. To characterize all these people's motivation as "bloody" is overly harsh and factually inaccurate.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:15 PM
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10. Maybe public service such as being a teacher, social worker etc.
Should count,
the GI bill was given to WWII vets for not the reason it is given today,
it was given for their service in WWII

I am talking about the top down to commission career officers
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:02 PM
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17. "hefty chunk of cash"
That's also why people rob liquor stores.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:58 PM
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15. only a small minority is actually blood-thirsty and they quit to
become contractors to avoid that pesky Geneva Convention.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:26 PM
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11. so..are you going to start with my kid?
don't forget-the troops aren't the ones who got us into this fucking mess.

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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:38 PM
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12. No, of course not, but you have to admit something is wrong from the top

who blame a few "bad apples".



I said support our troops and meant it, this not an attack on enlisted men.
the foot solider, is not who I am talking about,
no reflection about them. I always loved your photo.

I buried three of my high school friends, some drafted, some enlisted at Arlington Cemetery.



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peacebaby3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:46 PM
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13. Your OP sure sounded like it was bashing the troops. I was in the process
of typing a different reply when I saw this and decided to change my reply which was not at all nice.

I'll just say this...

You will not have to worry about purging my husband out because he retires in September.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 01:48 PM
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14. This is some of the crap I am talking about
"After Neil Santorello heard the news that his son, a tank commander, had been killed in Iraq, from the officer in his living room, he walked out his front door and removed the American flag from its pole. Then, in tears, he tore down the yellow ribbons from his tree.

Rather than see it as the act of a man unmoored by the death of his 24-year-old son, the officer, an Army major, confronted Mr. Santorello, saying, "Don't be disrespectful," Mr. Santorello recalled. Then, the officer, whose job it is to inform families of their loss, quickly disappeared without offering any comfort.

Later, the Santorellos heard a piece of crushing but inaccurate news: They would not be allowed to look inside their son's coffin. First Lt. Neil Santorello, of Verona, Pa., had been killed by an improvised bomb. His body, the family was told, was unviewable.

...snip...

Scores of families whose loved ones have died fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan have gone head-to-head with a casualty system that, in their experience, has failed to compassionately and competently guide them through the harrowing process that begins after a soldier's death."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/07/us/07notify.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Just came out in LBNs: here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2213187
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:00 PM
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16. I agree with you,then-but that is bureaucracy-and we need to purge
the bureaucrats running this piece of shit that was our country.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:04 PM
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18. Exactly.
Someone is teaching/ordering them to behave in that manner
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:45 PM
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19. Picture of the father...
Oh, and by the way the" bureaucrats "that did this to the family were military officers in uniform.



A photograph on a memorial card shows Mr. Youngblood
holding Hunter before departing for Iraq.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:39 PM
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20. Not everyone in uniform is a soldier...some have sold their souls
bless that brave soldier's family.He represents the reason I have fought so hard for veteran's and survivor's rights.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:29 PM
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21. Well bless you for that!
I weep for that young man & 2339 others in our uniform alone that I know of, hundreds of thousands of innocents whose lives cannot be marginalized as somehow being of less value because they were Iraqi. All the others, whatever their "Nationality". And the maimed, the disfigured, the mentally haunted...
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