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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:08 PM
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OK lets get down to brass tacks. When are the Rethugs going to dump Bush?
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 02:16 PM by NNN0LHI
You know damn well even Republicans in supposedly safe seats are getting nervous as cats in a roomful of rocking chairs with the kind of dismal numbers Bush has.

They are going to have to start breaking real soon. Time is running out for them and they know it. Chimpy looks like a guy fighting for his life lately. He might be?

Will they impeach him or does someone think the Republicans are going to go into the mid-term elections as things stand now?

Don
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:10 PM
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1. The Twelfth of Never. The BFEE is far more fearsome to the GOP lawmakers
than facing their constituents. You know at least half of them are as complicit criminally with BFEE actions and the rest know the limits of attacking any Bush family member.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:13 PM
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7. Well if they are complicit more the reason for them to hold on to power
Because if they can't some of them could end up at SuperMax. See what I mean?

Don
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:17 PM
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13. Sure - but fear for your life is a powerful thing.
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Tommy_J Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:39 PM
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19. LOL

I didn't know what BFEE meant so I Googled it. Google produced 97,200 hits.


FYI -

BFEE : the Bush Family Evil Empire

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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:11 PM
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2. Sticking by Bush at this point would seem like career suicide, but they
must think they have the election in the bag with the electronic voting machines. No doubt they've geared up to manipulate the results - again.

Other than that, I would say they're on a suicide mission if they stick by Bush.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:16 PM
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24. My biggest fear is election fraud.
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 05:16 PM by Finnfan
The longer Republicans stay on this sinking ship, the more fearful I become.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:11 PM
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3. I Heard Jed Clampett Say That Once (Good One : )
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 02:12 PM by Dinger
"That's lower than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs."
-Jed Clampett
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:11 PM
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Brass tacks? Maybe taxes is the better phrase. Not right, but better.
I think Chimpy will guarantee power, and the GOP will have to act on principle whether that is enough. God help us. Watch Rove live at 4:15 today on C-Span. He will answer your question, if you listen between the lines.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:15 PM
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9. I will fix it. Learn something every day. Thank you n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:18 PM
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14. I thought you were making a joke!
what with Shrubby on the TEEVEE whining via lies about his tax cuts for the uber-wealthy today. :-)
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:21 PM
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17. No. I have been saying brass taxes for about 50 years. I swear n/t
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:28 PM
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18. It's rhyming slang, brass tacks = facts
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:11 PM
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4. You're funny
How about never!!!!!
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lldu Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:12 PM
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5. That would be the right thing to do...
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 02:13 PM by lldu
when have they yet done the right thing?

God! Every week I tell myself that it can't get any worse, then shrubs and co go out and do something to make it worse.

How the heck can they say they are going out to make the world more democratic when they are changing America into the new Russia (before Reagan single-handedly tore down that wall, Mr Gorbachev!)
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:12 PM
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6. Watch what they do in the House and Senate
Back in Watergate days, they said "When Barry Goldwater goes to the White House, you know it will be over for Nixon." Well, Barry went, and the next day Tricky resigned. But I don't know if any repuke conman has the stature of Barry Goldwater today. Frist has his own pile of troubles to worry about. Maybe Hastert? Would Buschco listen to him?
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:15 PM
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8. I don't think Bush is going to serve out his term.
But the timing of when he'll have to step down is murky.

If the midterms go as bad for the Repugs as it looks like they might, and if (when) Iraq takes a couple more turns for the worse, and if the new Dem Congress starts investigating the administration... at some point he is going to be told he has to leave.

I can't see him lasting past 2007 especially if the Dems retake Congress this fall.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:16 PM
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10. As long as there is Diebold, never.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:16 PM
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11. Mr. President, for the good of the Party, for the good of the Country..
you must step asside.

It'll NEVER happen. Nobody in Washington's got the cajones to say that.

It'll take the gen pop taking to the streets ala' French Rev.
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:17 PM
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12. Sibyl Edmonds is still standing up and asking people to continue to call
congress for the truth of 911. Please sign her petition to unredact her 911 Commission testimony at http://www.JustACitizen.com

INTERVIEW:Former FBI Translator Sibel Edmonds Calls Current 9/11 Investigation Inadequate by Jim Hogue

"If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up." -Sibel Edmonds, former FBI translator

INTRODUCTION: Sibel Edmonds and Behrooz Sarshar, beginning in December of 2001, began filing reports to their superiors at the FBI. These reports could lead to the collapse of a corrupt power structure that has a stranglehold on the very institutions that are obligated to control it. We cannot excuse these institutions, for while they fiddle, they pass death sentences on their own troops, and on the people of Afghanistan and Iraq.
On April 30th, Sibel Edmonds was my guest for 50 minutes on WGDR radio. What follows is an edited transcript of the interview. The editing is for the sake of a more readable piece.

Sibel Edmonds is a former FBI translator. She blew the whistle on the cover-up of intelligence that names some of the culprits who orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. These culprits are protected by the Justice Department, the State Department, the FBI, the White House and the Senate Judiciary Committee. They are foreign nationals and Americans. Ms. Edmonds is under two gag orders that forbid her to testify in court or mention the names of the people or the countries involved.

THE INTERVIEW
JH: The people who have so far been interviewed on this program have all been authors and researchers, and here we have someone who, for the most part, has first-hand information. Ladies and Gentlemen, your guest is Sibel Edmonds, formerly of the FBI, a translator who joined the FBI shortly after 9/11.
Ms. Edmonds, what I'll do is invite you to tell us whatever you would like--your stint with the FBI--and what the brouhaha with Ashcroft and company is all about....

JH: Ms. Edmonds, thanks for being our guest.

SE: Thank you very much. I'm honored to be on your show and I hope I'll be on again. And I hope you will able to get Senator Leahy. I'd like to be able to have a chat with him.

JH: Fat chance. He withers at the thought.

SE: We're going to still be pounding. I'm preparing this petition, and it's going to be signed by many, many people and I'm going to be wheeling it in personally to both Senators Leahy and Grassley. And it will have some level of coverage. And once they see the cameras and the people, suddenly their personalities change. It's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. They become very sweet.

JH: If you see either one of those two , I'd be more than happy to have either one them on - with you. Let's see what we can do.

SE: Okay, let's hope. Thank you, Jim. Bye.

EDITOR'S NOTE: Jim Hogue provided the following conclusion to this interview: "The facts reported by Sibel Edmonds and Behrooz Sarshar are incontrovertible. Result: Silence. And you must agree to be a part of this silence.The gag order permeates the White House, the Senate Judiciary Committee, all levels of the FBI, the CIA, the 9/11 Commission, the NSC, the Pentagon, the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, and the mass media. The media and the White House will next assassinate Miss Edmond's character, as they have done to others who haven't rolled over and played dead. Never in the course of human events has so great a story been covered up by so many on the orders of so few.

The likes of Seymour Hersh, Bob Woodard and Judith Miller should put their tails between their legs and slink away, while the obscure academic, Dr. David Ray Griffin, while candidate John Buchanan, citizen Eric Hufschmid, author Gore Vidal, independent journalists Michael Ruppert and Christopher Bollyn, and the 9/11 families are recognized among those who kept open the window to Democracy.

Miss Edmonds has challenged us to do our jobs as citizens. It isn't often that a phone call could change the course of history. Now is such a time."

-http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml Great information in this long interview.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:19 PM
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15. When ROE is overturned.
That is, when God says it's okay. But some will hold out forever, rather than let you have the satisfaction.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Inland/14
However, I think there is another element of America that will never, ever admit Bush is anything but right every single time.

The people who would rather have an incompetent, deadly president who rips them off and sends their family and friends to die, than to admit that the peaceniks, gays, democrats, minorities, city folk and liberals have a point.

The people who are so alienated from America that they saw the best thing about Bush is that a) "those people" hated him to distraction and therefore just having Bush as president was huge fun and b) that being "for Bush" meant that you had an ideological and cultural basis for hating all "those people" for a reason other than their money, education, success, etc.
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fond DU Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:20 PM
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16. Truth to tell...
I don't see 'em nervous at ALL. They're not dumping him.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:39 PM
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20. Perhaps, its better to Have the repubs hang onto George as a ...
standard bearer...gives the nation something on which to concentrate.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:14 PM
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23. of course the repukie party won't dump him until he's exposed...
..in an investigation. but you're blind iF you don't see the Repuke house and sEnate candidatEs avoiding bush like the Plague. opEn youR eyes.

i mean, come on....he has a 32% approval rating and cheney's is about 18%. thats not something to crow about.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:44 PM
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21. self-interest will be served
it's all about each candidate's career - i.e. re-election. they'll bail on bush if it's to their advantage.
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:01 PM
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22. they won't impeach him
that's the way for them to l ose the rest of their support.
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