Plame: The Why Of It All

Were they more afraid of losing power or what the criminal consequences would be if they were found out?

“But what does the iceberg look like? Is it merely part of a post-invasion political cover-up run by the Cabal out of Rove's and Libby's Offices or is it more?

I believe that this "grand narrative" is part of a larger whole, and in order to get a sense of what it looks like, you have to change frames. You have to re-frame the entire war, from run-up to the unfolding run down and view ALL of it, not from a military/foreign policy frame but as a domestic political operation. Tactical, strategic, diplomatic decisions were determined not by their own exigencies but by Bush political requirements.

The War was conceived and is being executed as political not a military operation. It is not nor has it ever been run by generals and diplomats but ultimately and in every material respect as as a domestic political affair by Karl Rove, Scooter Libby on behalf of Bush/Cheney out of the WH.

Pat Roberts's role has been that of Master Sgt in charge of cover up. Think not of Operation Iraqi Freedom but of Operation Rolling Bullsh*t. Then you'll understand the War on Iraq in general and in any of its particulars.”

http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/28652


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“That leads to the second, equally important point. Waas also reports that Rove thought as early as the summer of 2003 that the document was radioactive enough to potentially destroy Bush's re-election chances. Waas adds that Bush advisers thought that if doubts about the tubes came out, it would be much harder to shield Bush from criticism for them than it was for the uranium tale -- because there apparently existed hard evidence that the president had been told of those doubts.

Now fast forward to early 2004. That’s when Libby testified before the Plame grand jury. Patrick Fitzgerald’s indictment alleges that Libby lied about how and when he learned Plame’s identity and disclosed information about her to reporters. Rove, too, misled the grand jury by failing to mention a conversation with a reporter about Plame. (Rove subsequently disclosed it, but only after a discovered e-mail jogged his memory. Libby has pled innocent, and Rove wasn’t indicted, though he reportedly remains under investigation).

That’s where matters stand now. Now let’s try to fit these pieces together.

The thing about the Plame investigation that never quite seemed to make sense was this: Why would Libby or Rove deliberately mislead the grand jury, risking perjury charges when it wasn’t clear the leak was a crime?

Thanks to Waas, for the first time, we may now know for a fact that Rove and other Bush advisers viewed the truth about the run-up to war as something that could destroy his re-election prospects. It is entirely plausible that Bush advisers calculated that if it came out that they’d outed Plame, Congress would have been forced by the resulting firestorm to run a far more aggressive investigation of Bush’s pre-war deceptions – and possibly uncover the smoking gun Waas reports on, among other things. Remember, Libby and Rove testified in early 2004, during the heat of a presidential campaign which Rove himself had apparently concluded was at risk if existing hard evidence of Bush’s deceptions surfaced.”cont…

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=11370

MIHOP?

they could not have anything but a close election in their bullshit world..or they could not steal the election..they had to keep it close enough in Americans minds so they could steal the election so they could keep the real truth about 9/11 from the American people..remember these are the same criminals that believe they will hold the white house for 50 yrs!..and the congress as well..everything they have done and are doing is creating a one party system..they are arrogant..and they own the voting machines..they have not been stopped by anyone..and they think they are indestructable..and their arrogance made them make some mistakes..they could not loose the white house and have those mistakes exposed...until they have destroyed all the evidence..
they have demonized anyonewith the audacity to question them..

so if Kerry was to win..they would be confirmed as the very criminals and murderers that they are..kerry could have started a new 9/11 commission..a real commission with family members of victims on the panel..and scientists..and aviation experts..and building experts..they could not afford that to happen..

and they had to stop the bleeding..

just my 2 cents..fly

tying 9/11 to international big bucks and people in the Plame bureau discovering the connection. There may be something really huge under the water for this iceberg.
Wilson's report just happened at an opportune time.
Tried to find the thread. It was on here and Kos about two months ago.

that I don't know if they could even plan a wedding successfully.

They are competent criminals having gotten away with so many crimes against humanity and our constitution and our laws that,...it's simply mind-boggling. Are we such a weak country with such a weak government that these culpable criminals can just get away with such HUGE crimes involving hundreds of billions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of lives, and the economic and national security of this nation?

I wonder. I worry.

repeatedly over the last 5 years and I suspect will continue to be so for years to come. Was it a skill at framing the message, outfoxing the opposition? Are Americans too trusting? Were we run over by a right wing humvee?

Yet at the end of the day I think they and theirs will be found to be the type of petty criminals, found in so many jails, who lucked into operating on a grander scale.

Too bad Nixon died when he did. He could have told them a tale about arrogant governance and shabby cover-ups.

,...operators to TAKE control via the most disgusting utilization of propaganda since NAZI Germany. We MUST find a way to prevent repetition of destructive criminals getting their hands on the leashes of this country.

The first step, of course, would be holding them accountable, fully accountable for every damn thing they have done which has violated basic American values and laws and constitutional guarantees and trust. If these fucks aren't held accountable, how can a path towards a healthier democracy possibly be created?

The rule of law MUST be applied fairly to these abusive cons.

They KNOW their deviousness required additional deviousness.

They are in perpetual "cover-up" mode, 24/7. They HAVE to because they are abusing powers, exploiting positions and breaking laws.

They are criminals,...culpable, evil, destructive criminals. And, they are still running the streets and running this nation.

That's sick as hell.

in Chief loves his troops.

....absolute proof that 9/11 was an inside job.:tinfoilhat: Knowing this bunch of WH criminals I can't bring myself to believe they outed Plame simply for her husband's political disagreements. If that had been the case this bunch could have easily launched a smear campaign against her husband and left it at that.:shrug: So there had to be a really good reason for outing Plame and attacking her husband at the same time.:think: I for one don't think we know the half of it even now either. I think Plame came in contact with someone that was about to give up all the goods and outing her was the only way to stop it. I know, I know :tinfoilhat:

I refuse to call the Bush Regime a Republican Regime or even a NeoCon and RW Fundie saturated Cabal. This regime is Neo Fascist.

The outing of V. Wilson aka V. Plame and her operation Brewster Jennings were a threat to the Neo Fascists. The plan was to discredit Joe Wilson and destroy Brewster Jennings. I call this Treason.

....could completely topple the whole neocon movement.