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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 10:59 AM
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Evan Thomas of Newsweek says no more than 2 or 3 Repubs will be...
indicted or go to jail over the Abramoff scandal. He mentioned that fact that many Reps had taken money from the tribes but few were involved in a quid pro quo with money from Abramoff and that would be what they would go to jail for. I wonder how much of an impact this story will have after it is spun like an Indian blanket?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:01 AM
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1. I already figured this - I think we all know this will happen
Fortunately, the reputation of the Republicans has been further lowered by this scandal.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:01 AM
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2. Prolly not much
The NSA spy scandal is the one to pin our hopes on.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:01 AM
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3. Heard him
He's definitely tricking for the outlaws.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:02 AM
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4. "Consider the source" applies here. 'Nuff said. nt
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:03 AM
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5. I guess that is like woodward telling larry king that
the outing of a CIA agent had no merit either

How in the hell does evan thomas know what the government has?

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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:08 AM
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7. Crimes?
The MSM will stick the donkey tail of scandal to the D's somehow just watch. I watched Russert and Matthews doing just that the other day add the rethug noise machine and by next week Abramoff will be a D and this will transform into a strictly D scandal somehow. The only way the D's will ever get any justice out of Congress is by winning it back next fall which isn't going to happen as long as Diebold, ESS and Sequia have anything to say about it.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:11 AM
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8. unfortunately I agree
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 02:25 PM
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13. Bush is already claiming not to know him
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:06 AM
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6. 200 visits to the White House
Just say that and click your feet 3 times and Bush is on his way home to Crawford!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:13 AM
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9. Evan Thomas tends to be like David Broder.....I wouldn't pay too
much attention to him. Remember...we are winning in Iraq. :eyes:
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:23 AM
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10. He's already behind with his predictions. Already more than 'two or three'
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 11:28 AM by Catrina
Republican indictments, convictions have been handed down. Poor guy, talk about putting your fingers in your ears, and covering your eyes. Just off the top of my head:

Republicans already convicted, indicted or under investigation:

Republicans:

Adam Kidan (Abramoff partner, guilty plea}
Scanlon (Abramoff partner, guilty plea)
Abramoff (top Republican lobbyist, guilty plea)

Duke Cunningham (Convicted in separate corruption crime, but now thought to be involved with Abramoff)

Republican co-conspirators of Cunningham, defense contractors (forget if its one or two so far)Investigation ongoing, with more indictments pending.

Republican, Safavian (White House Director of procurement, arrested and charged in the Abramoff affairs)

Tom Delay, his wife and several Repub. aides (told they are under investigation in the Abramoff affairs)

Doolittle, his wife and aides (also under investigation in the Abramoff affairs)

Bob Ney plus at least one Republican aide (documents subpaenoed in the Abramoff affairs)

Under suspicion and possibly under investigation:

Sen. Cornyn,
Conrad Burns,
George Bush for aiding in the suppression of an investigation in the Marianas Islands.

I don't have time to go on, but then there are the other Republican crimes, eg,

Scooter Libby, already indicted
Karl Rove, still under investigation

Larry Franklin entered a guilty plea in the Pentagon Spy case and indicted in the same case,

Republicans:
Weissman
Rosen both members of AIPAC

As a result of Larry Franklin's cooperation, Republican neocon, Douglas Feith is now under investigation.

The Forged Niger Documents case has been re-opened by the FBI and Republican neocon Michael Ledeen is under suspicion in that case, along with others from the administration.

Not to mention the Republican Gov. Taft, of Ohio, indicted, guilty plea and fine paid. Noe and a myriad of other Ohio Republicans, all under investigation for corruption in that state alone.

Then there's the 30 indictments handed down in the Republican corruption case of Republican Gov. Ryan in Illinois.

Not to mention the conviction of Republican Gov. Rowland of Conn. staunch Bush supporter before the election and currently serving time for his crimes.

There is the Bush Interior Dept. under Gale Norton also, with her assistant Griles definitely under investigation in the Abramoff affairs and whole host of other Republicans in that Dept. many of whom took the fifth at the Senate hearings.

Oh and in another Patrick Fitzgerald case, Conrad Black, rightwing media mogal, with his co-conspirators, also indicted for corruption and under investigation as a result of that case, Republican neocon, Richard Perle!

Talk about a 'culture of Republican corruption' and this all is just the start, the tip of the iceberg ~

That poor guy will need some heavy duty ear plugs to block out the number of convictions, guilty pleas, indictments, investigations before it's all over.

The Abramoff prosecutor, a Bush recess nominee, btw, said, revealingly that the DOJ had increased its corruption investigations by 90% over the past three years. A reporter asked her 'is that because there is MORE corruption now, or is it that you just decided to go after it now?'

Yes, 90% more corruption since the Bush administration took over the government ~ I don't think she realized what she said until she was asked to explain it.

Feel free to add to the list, my brain can only hold so many Republican crimes at one time. Maybe we should send in a list to the poor guy, so at least it doesn't all hit him at one time, because the list is growing by the day! :rofl:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:26 AM
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11. ONLY 2 or 3. then there is frist, delay, libby, soon to be rove
and that is just the beginning. only 2 or 3 on this corruption. so many more out there.

expectation of repug lowered significantly, once again, by media
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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 02:17 PM
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12. The exception will be the rule:
WE know it's a rethug scandal so does the media nevertheless, if only 1 Demo gets caught up in this heor she will be the focus because the MSM's masters are all top rethug choir boys and will force their newsrooms to focus on that 1 person to the exclusion of all the dozens of obvious rethug criminals.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 02:30 PM
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14. *no* Democrat has taken a bribe from Abramoff
they will have to invent that exception, and then explain why the Bush Justice Department isn't prosecuting him/her.
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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 02:53 PM
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15. Dorgan et al.
They are already spreading the lie that Sen. B. Dorgan, Hillary, Reid and others are all Abramoff cronies. It might be a flat out lie but it will be easy to make people believe it because they already have such a low opinion of both parties anyway. It will be another in a long list of rethug lies that they retract weeks later with a shrug and a smirk.
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