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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:01 PM
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Hitchens:"busted up and screwed up Iraq was in our future no matter what"

http://www.aina.org/news/2006019114515.htm

Christopher Hitchens On Why We Must Win

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Q: What's the biggest misconception, or myth or fallacy Americans have about what is going in Iraq?

A: The biggest mistake most Americans make is to think our engagement with Iraq began in 2003, and that we had the option of not doing anything there and presumably should have exercised that option. The beginning of wisdom is the realization of responsibility. We've inherited responsibility for Iraq starting at least from the moment when Jimmy Carter encouraged Saddam Hussein to attack Iran, but perhaps earlier than that in the '60s when the CIA most certainly did help Saddam's wing of the Baath Party to come to power. So we can't walk away.... We have to accept that a busted up and screwed up Iraq was in our future no matter what. The reason I support the president is that he in some sense seems to realize that. He couldn't do what Clinton had done and just push it on into the next administration.

Q: Does that mean you are of the "We broke it, but we broke it a long time ago school and now we've got to fix it?"

A: When I first heard the Pottery Barn analogy put -- I think by that great stateswoman Maureen Dowd -- I thought how irritating and how trivial. But then I thought, "You know what, by accident, she's got it right." Because, OK, "You break it, you own it," can be rephrased. It was broken and we did own it. And so everything has to start with that recognition....

The main criticism that the neocons have, and I take more or less their line on this, is that all of this should have been taken care of in 1991. They should not have let Saddam Hussein survive his conquest of Kuwait and his defeat there. He should have gone down then and we should never have tortured the Iraqi people with sanctions for 12 years.


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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:03 PM
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1. Hitchens-what an ass
I guess he had to blame Jimmy Carter or LBJ, since Mother Theresa had nothing to do with Iraq.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:10 PM
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6. LOL
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:35 PM
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10. I'll drink to that.
And I bet Christopher Hitchens would, too.
:toast:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:04 PM
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2. What a fucking idiot.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:05 PM
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3. Iraq isn't a "pottery barn" and the thousands dead aren't shards.
Hitler could've said the same about Poland.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:06 PM
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4. Do you think these dolts even realize what they're saying or
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 01:06 PM by acmavm
do they just babble on and on to get attention? 'Cuz not one damn thing is related to the real world.

edit: to fix ignorant punctuation error
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:07 PM
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5. Have another drink, Hitchens, seeing as you have sold your soul
long ago, you have nothing to lose. Creep.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:20 PM
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7. Hitchens makes a lot of sense--sometimes.
I think he is right: a nasty time in the M.E. was an almost 100% probability. The problem is that the other crap that the culture of corruption, cronyism, and malevolence has ushered in and the incompetence with which they view the world is not a good fit with freedom and self determination.
His endorsement of this regime as a useful tool in promoting an ethical world is ridiculous in the extreme and points directly to his own irresponsible worldview. His visibility is a function of the moral morass we find ourselves in. GIGO
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:25 PM
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8. The Pottery Barn analogy came from COLIN POWELL
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 01:30 PM by Rob H.
...not Maureen Dowd, you drink-soaked former Trotskyist popinjay.* If you'd take time out of your ass-kissing of the neocons and do a little fact-checking, you'd know that.

Still think "how irritating and how trivial"?


*Thanks, George Galloway! (Edited to thank him.)
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:28 PM
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9. Hitchens has a 75 IQ brain and a 150 IQ voice.
People *think* he's intelligent because he has a posh accent and a flair for sarcasm, but the man is ill-informed and cannot reason his way out of a paper bag. And Dowd didn't come up with the "Pottery Barn" crap, BTW- it was a Bushie named Colin Powell.
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