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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:11 PM
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I'm gonna puke. We don't get the tapes, we get CNN actresses
Kelly Arena just did her version of the transcripts, getting to act out all parts. Literally, not reading, but ACTING. Yelling, emoting, pouring it all out.

WHY DO WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO A TWO-BIT LO-RENT CABLE NEWS ANCHOR DOING DINNER-THEATER? Why can't we hear real tapes? Why can't we hear the tape of the WTC planes? The Pentagon plane? Who is this show for, anyway? Who is buying this shit?
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:12 PM
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1. The "jiggle" factor?
I know, I know, it sounds offensive to a lot of folks - but they've done it before, and they'll do it again.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:12 PM
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The government isn't releasing the tapes. Only transcripts.
The only people who will hear the tapes are those in the courtroom.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:12 PM
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2. I heard that
it was shameful and sick. :puke:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:13 PM
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3. the cable propaganda outlets appear to be in full throat....
USA! USA! USA!
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:13 PM
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4. rules
Someone who works in this field posted earlier that they are not allowed to release them (FCC or something) that they could only release the transcripts.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:18 PM
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6. Bullshit
Have we all forgotten everything?

They used to release these tapes all the time! Doesn't anyone remember the tape from before 9/11, the plane which crashed wherein the pilot's last words were "Allah is Great" or somesuch? Am I the only one who remembers that these tapes used to be released all the time?
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:39 PM
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8. Allah is Great -- In English per chance? n/t
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:46 PM
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10. post #16
You don't have to swear at me, I didn't say it:

"Transcripts or mock recordings can be released, but not the raw CVR data. ABC News got burned a few years back by playing the CVR recordings of American Airlines flight 965 (Boeing 757) that crashed in the mountains near Cali, Colombia in December 1995. The Colombian government, pissed by criticism from the US government, gave the CVR product to ABC News. ABC News, unwisely, aired the recordings of the final minutes of AA 965. American Airlines' Allied Pilots Association and ALPA (Air Line Pilots Association) pressured the US government to penalize ABC for violation of US federal law.

CVR recordings can legally be played in a closed court, but not "publicly." When CVRs are released to the public is when every airline pilot worth salt joins a nationwide S.O.S. (suspension of service).

On edit: As an ALPA-trained airline accident investigator, I have listened to numerous CVR tapes. It is always a heart-wrenching and stomach-turning experience. You never, ever want to hear the last words of the crew of Palm 90 (Air Florida) as they met their fate in the icy Potomac on January 13, 1982. Ditto many others that I have had to listen to."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2222579

26. See my post #16.
It has to be a transcript. Federal law protects all CVR recordings from public disclosure.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:46 PM
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11. Don't know about those
but the audio tapes from Flight 93 were released for only the 9/11 families to hear, but they were told they could not repeat what they heard.

This was done in April 2002.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:57 PM
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13. Someone said today that unless ALL the families agreed
they would not release the tapes, and some objected because they feared that the media would play them over and over and over, and it would be too painful for them to keep hearing it..

While I agree with them, they ARE a part of a public trial..

I have no interest in hearing them.. They don't change anything :cry:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:16 PM
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5. Maybe they don't want qualified people to examine the tapes -
speaking from a MIHOP position.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:28 PM
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7. Maybe the 'transcripts' are 100% fabricated. My vote is that they
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 04:29 PM by higher class
created a Jessica and pulling the life supports from premature babies event. Sorry if I offend anyone.

Was driving when I heard that they released the tapes and the jury was listening and I thought well finally, we'll put to est some of the theories. Now I learn it's only transcript.

Transcripts. I don't buy it. There are much better scenarios going around.

It is just amazing to me that the lowliest of the military get the blame for policies coming from the top and that possibly, mere passenger are made into heroes. And that we HAVE NO PROOF that what they are sying is the truth, after all these years.

Sorry, George, I don't believe you.
Sorry if I've offended anyone in their beliefs. I'll join you when we hear proof.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:43 PM
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9. I think the jury heard the tape. This is a Fed trial, and that's why
you don't have any more than reporters reading their notes. I don't think they "released" the tapes to the public...only to the court for this trial.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:48 PM
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12. Easier to talk about 9-11 then
it is to talk about this administration and all the laws they have broken... They are redirecting the public's attention back to 9-11 to draw support for The War On Terra... I hope they don't fall for it...
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:53 PM
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14. BBC has transcript on their site. (LINK)
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