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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:18 PM
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Hitlers generals tried to kill him when they realized he was insane
http://century.guardian.co.uk/1940-1949/Story/0,6051,127654,00.html

Hitler discloses army revolt

Friday July 21, 1944


The announcement by the German wireless last evening of a plot to murder Hitler by a bomb, from which he had escaped with a few "light burns and concussion," was followed early to-day by an extraordinary six-minute broadcast by the Führer to the German people.

While declaring that a small clique of officers had planned the attempt on his life and announcing a new purge, Hitler clearly indicated by references to "usurpers," whose orders he told the armed forces they must not obey, that a much wider revolt confronts the Nazis.

Goring said the plot was the work of generals dismissed for incompetence who had formed a new Reich Government of usurpers.

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:20 PM
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1. Just can't trust them generals when they agree to
disagree.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:21 PM
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2. Our generals would have to knock off more than one person...
This administration is chock full of crazy people.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:22 PM
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3. Too bad we can't come to our senses and realize that our leader is
INSANE.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:29 PM
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5. bush isn't the leader....he's not in charge
and he's too stupid to be insane.

he's a puppet. nothing more.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:23 PM
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4. There was hell to pay for that botched assassination. n/t
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:30 PM
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7. Hitler had some people hung by piano wire, but eventually he decided
that the conspirators had a good idea and he shot himself.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 09:03 PM
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14. Ha! You jest but just deserts were eventually served. eom
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 09:29 PM
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17. I'm not sure what you mean by just deserts.
There was a war crimes tribunal and there was a plan to help Germany economically in contrast to the collective punishment of Germany after the First World War.

However, at the beginning of the Second World War, Nazi Germany and the Stalinist USSR divided up Poland. At the end of the Second World War, the USSR retained control of not just the part of Poland that it had been "entitled to" under the terms of its agreement with Nazi Germany.

Also, ethnic Germans who had lived throughout Europe for generations were forced out of their homes and became refugees. Fortunately, Germany accepted them, so they had somewhere to go.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:18 PM
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18. Only in reference to Adolf.
I thought we were just talking about an assassination attempt on Adolf Hitler.
The human trajedy, the price mankind pays for war is not something I would call 'just deserts'
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:31 PM
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9. Hitler whacked Rommel for the Stauffenberg Assassination attempt
Abandoning the rule of law will gain nothing and risk everything.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:34 PM
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10. Are you suggesting it was not worth trying to remove Hitler in 1944? n/t
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:37 PM
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11. No
eom
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:29 PM
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6. i`ve been saying something to the same thing
since the beginning of the war. the intelligent generals in our army understand what and how their counterparts in germany felt. now have decided to speak out for the good of the country and our soldiers.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:31 PM
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8. Is a "usurper" kinda like an "insurgent"?
:shrug:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:39 PM
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12. What can be done when a whole adminstration is insane?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:44 PM
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13. Problem is too many of the SANE Generals have left
and now we have a group of religious fundies with Stars on their shoulders... :grr:
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 09:12 PM
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16. Rise and Fall of the Third Reich illustrates how good people
get squeezed, intimidated and smeared and blackmailed.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 09:07 PM
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15. Let me remind you folks that talking about harming our great leader
is a crime and people have actually been arrested and imprisioned.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:21 PM
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19. True...except the "great" leader part.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:50 PM
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21. Total sarcasm. Small capital letters were the give away.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:46 PM
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20. I just wish they had got Hitler in '44
Imagine the lives that could have been saved had that occurred. Just from D-Day alone. Maybe there would not have even been a need to nuke Japan. We will never know.

Don
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:51 PM
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22. But there would have been no Israel. And you can't have the end-of-times
with the Jews going back to Israel.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 12:54 AM
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24. I believe the attempt on Hitler's life was in August 1944
which was after D-Day.

However, D-Day was not even the worst thing to happen to the Germans in June 1944. In Russia, the Red Army attacked Army Gruppe Centre and ripped a hole in the German lines hundreds of miles wide.

The German front was completely ruptured and the whole front was pretty much a total loss, hundreds of thousands of men, forty or more divisions, more than the whole US Army had in the war.

The Red Army wasn't stopped until it reached Warsaw.

With the US and English back on the continent and it no longer possible to stop Russian attacks anywhere in the east, the war was seen as lost by almost everyone in authority.

When Field Marshall Rundstedt was asked by General Jodl what he suggested, he answered, "make peace you fools." Rundstedt was soon retired to spend more time with his family.

That's when the assasination attempt was tried.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:52 PM
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23. I wouldn't suggest anything too drastic
Nazi Germany did not have an impeachment process. We do.
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