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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:34 AM
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Matalin on msnbc: Rove to be "unleashed" on Dems
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 10:02 AM by librechik
and apparently it will be a "pretty" thing to watch.

I'm beginning to understand why Abu Ghraib happened.

It would also be a "CATASTROPHE FOR THE WHOLE COUNTRY" if the Republicans lose the House.

Mary, will it be as big a catastrophe as Katrina? Or Iraq?


Apparently Rove, though his portfolio was removed, did not get a demotion. He just is so good he can play any position on the team. Don't worry, despite rumors, there will be no changes in the BushCo field lineup on VD day (destroy the democrats day)

Isn't E Pluribus Unum great?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:36 AM
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1. i'll take rove over nuclear war in iraqn if given the choice
:patriot:
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:39 AM
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7. Word is that Turd Blossom is trying to talk Shrub out of it
Becuase he's a slimeball who only cares about winning elections. And he knows what will happen politically if this attack goes ahead
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:41 AM
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11. I agree with Begala ...
Rove is NOT the Alpha and Omega of Political Smear Campaigns.

If you think about what he's done, it's not genius that astounds us, it's the complete lack of conscious and moral depravity of the actions.

He's leaking junk to his butt boy, Matt Drudge. Yada yada yada ...

The patterns are glaringly simple and are wearing thin on the average American Sheeple who are more concerned <drum roll> with the price of gas and making ends meet for their families.

In the cushy 90s, such trash-talk was "fun" but leisure time is becoming few and far between.

When times are HARD, smear campaigns easily backfire, especially when instigated by incumbents. ;)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:47 AM
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but--they have the media to help them now--and I think more so than
previously.




,,,,When times are HARD, smear campaigns easily backfire, especially when instigated by incumbents.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:56 AM
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24. It won't work ... media won't influence squat when people are PISSED
with their Life Situation. Every day will be more and more disenchanting working for asinine corporate masters. As we see our family members suffer minimum wage and are unable to afford to send our children to college, the media whores will only have themselves (and each other) to love.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:19 AM
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33. Just WHEN is that gonna happen? America gettin PISSED...
When's that gonna happen? What's it going to take? Lie after lie after fucking lie, scandal after scandal after fucking scandal, war after war after fucking war...and most of america doesn't give a rats ass....
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:46 AM
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43. also, a lot of the media is pissed off, too. It's only the Drudge-O'Leill
ys that aren't
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:01 AM
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30. True but it won't hurt if he believes his own hype.
let repugs shackle their campaigns to his soon to be indicted ass. Then they'll all get serviced in the way they so richly deserve.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:06 PM
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55. exactly! he's no genius, he's just completely without conscience
But his lies and smears won't work any more because the media have turned against the administration. I doubt that he has any other tactics to fall back on.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:07 PM
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58. Rove will never be as good at it as Atwater was
Even Rove has never smeared my favorite baseball player by making political ads with a killer who shared the same name.

The real Willie Horton is a great guy-a former Tiger from the 68 World Series champions, who buys tickets for poor kids to attend games, is a community leader in this city, his home town, and is just an all around decent man. To have to share his name with some sociopathic killer is too much.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:42 AM
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14. AWOL/morons unsolvable problem..? Iraq-nam. No matter what they say....
Iraq-nam will be hung around the AWOL/morons neck like an albatross.

And BTW,.... any time a Dem brings up anything about Iraq-nam they should ALWAYS begin by reminding everyone of the repugs failure to catch the person who gave us 9/11... Bin Laden.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:37 AM
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2. I'm quaking in my Birkenstocks
Keep that nasty feral attack-propagandist AWAY FROM ME!

:rofl:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:37 AM
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3. This displays their mindset
which is to destroy all enemies using any means, fair or foul. You see this not only in politics, but how they have treated prisoners, etc.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:38 AM
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4. When has Rove ever been leashed
Unless he was around when Gannon was visiting the White House, performing the function of "reacharound guy" I really don't think he's ever been leashed.

I really hope the Dems don't try to pull any of that "We're above this kind of politics" crap they did in 2004. I want them to hit every repuke with every piece of dirt they can dig up and then pick up the dirt and fling it at the prick again and again.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:38 AM
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5. yeah, that's just great
Because "unleashing" an evil bastard on a whole political party sure isn't a catastrophe for anyone. :eyes:

I'm sure this kind of attack-dog crap is exactly what the framers had in mind when they set up the government.
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timber84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:38 AM
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6. "Who let the dog's out"
sorry couldn't resist.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:39 AM
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8. At every single stage of the fight

All anyone will have to do is say: "So, Karl, you ratted out an undercover agent for vengeance. How's the investigation? Still ongoing?"

There is no longer any need to lock step with the Republican administration in any verbiage. Rove's unleashing will have no more effect than a gnat.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:39 AM
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9. Reeks of bravado. Interesting. nt
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:39 AM
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10. Oh, yeah, Mary, life in America is paradise now
Wouldn't want to spoil that.
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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:15 AM
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31. she is delusional
She was on GMA this morning spouting how wonderful the economy is and how much Bush has done for America, she also disagreed firmly with Gibson over New Orleans. They are not angry with Bush, in fact they are so happy with how he has handled things...

:wtf:

She makes me :puke:
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:42 AM
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12. He could be called a janitor but his job wouldn't change
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/04/20/inside_the_shake_up.html

Time quotes one Bush friend: "Karl could be called the janitor and his role with the President would not change."
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:42 AM
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13. What happens if KKKarl gets indicted?
Then who gets 'unleashed' on the whole world? Fitzgerald apparently just presented evidence to a grand jury in support of criminal charges being filed against Rove. Wouldn't that mean a resignation and Rove having to devote his time to preparing for a trial?
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:49 AM
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20. You win
a big brand new Amana refrigerator compliments of the Newly-indicted game.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:31 AM
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38. Oh, oh, oh goodie
I'll make sure they have tbe delivery address.

Does it come with an ice-maker that generates ice cubes in the shape of heads of famous indicted Rethugs? That would be good for parties.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:44 AM
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15. Meme of the day:
It will be A "CATASTROPHE FOR THE WHOLE COUNTRY" if Republicans lose the House. Uh-huh. Thanks Mary.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:49 AM
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21. she is trying to bring in Repugs to voting (as it seems many may want
to just sit out the 06 election)
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:28 PM
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60. Catastrophe? isn't that their specialty? n/t
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:45 AM
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16. Why do these lines from Vachel Lindsey come to mind (re: Rove)?
Death is an Elephant,
Torch-eyed and horrible,
Foam-flanked and terrible.
BOOM, steal the pygmies,
BOOM, kill the Arabs,
BOOM, kill the white men,
HOO, HOO, HOO.

Listen to the yell of Karl Rove's ghost
Burning in Hell for his hand-maimed host.
Hear how the demons chuckle and yell
Cutting his hands off, down in Hell.


My apologies to Mr. Lindsey.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:37 AM
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39. good god, DemoTex
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 10:40 AM by librechik
apt indeed! BTW, the poet, accompanied by native drummers used to perform this piece around the country to crowds of rural folk. He was fabulously successful, for a poet and for the times. But a leeetle bit chauvinistic.

hope everything's going well for you, Mac!

:loveya:
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:43 AM
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41. Thanks, LC ...
I often am at odds over The Congo. Some of the poem has racist overtones, IMO. But the section I posted always comes to mind when I think of Rove and the GOP mascot (torch-eyed and horrible, foam-flanked and terrible .. indeed!).
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:47 AM
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17. Democrat Agenda: "Impeachment payback" . Rove/corporate media will say
America needs a party with a plan to move forward while the Dems focus on revenge.

Rove will attempt to remove all legal justifications that Democrats might have for impeachment and characterize their actions as "Bush hate".
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:47 AM
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18. "Unleashed"? This admin has a thing with bondage and discipline!
The Republicans sure are some kinky bastards.
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:48 AM
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19. This is why i've rolled my eyes at the reportage suggesting this
was a demotion.

No way: it just means he will be working full time (out of the white house, on our dime) as Secretary of Dirty Tricks.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:50 AM
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22. Bushworld has been a "pretty" thing to watch, too, Mary
If your pleasure is phony wars that cost tens of thousands of innocent lives, displays of previously unimaginable incompetency and mounting debts that will be paid for by your little children.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:50 AM
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23. She used "catastrophy" on ABC this morning.
Already tossing out the talking points.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:33 AM
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46. Let's just throw the repuke words back at them: catastrophe is your war in
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 11:35 AM by wordpix
Iraq, your response to Katrina, your $9 trillion debt that is making the middle class poor. Catastrophe is your energy policy that has caused gas prices to rise nearly 300% in 3 yrs. Catastrophe is your environmental policy that has led to the selloff of our national lands and resources at bargain basement prices.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:58 AM
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25. come on fitz
indict Rove please.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:01 AM
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29. Not Just Rove
Who says she's home free? As a member of WHIG and a close pal of Cheney (called a Cheney Angel) who's to say she won't yet be embroiled in this in a specific way?
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:58 AM
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26. Hopefully a whack on the snout from Fitzgerald will not only
keep Rove on the leash, but eventually put him in a cage where he belongs.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:59 AM
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27. I would like to unleash
a pack of pit bulls on mr. rove and see the result.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:00 AM
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28. A catastrophe?

Like, say, Katrina?
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:18 AM
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32. And apparently, Fitzgerald is about to be unleashed on rove
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x975688

The grand jury session in federal court in Washington, DC, sources close to the case said, was the first time this year that Fitzgerald told the jurors that he would soon present them with a list of criminal charges he intends to file against Rove in hopes of having the grand jury return a multi-count indictment against Rove.


I think rove is going to be a bit busy these next months.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:22 AM
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34. I think the Democrats and the public are wise to Rove at this point.
he has used up all the tricks in his bag.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:23 AM
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35. well, somebody needs to "unleash" on Rove
time to play dirty as well.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:24 AM
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36. The more they can make it like an athletic contest....
the better they will do. So long as it is not about the lives of the AMerican people and the futures of their children. Let's make it about the "liberals vs conservatives". Keep it simple and don't confuse the people with facts.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:25 AM
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37. I hope Fitzy unleashes about 10 indictments in the meantime...NT
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:40 AM
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40. democrats need to stay on point-point out that all the repubs have
are attacks-no plan...just like the schoolyard bully.people are tired of attack ads.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:44 AM
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42. Umm Clue Matalin, I don't Rove has many more tricks
left in the bag!

Soon to be too busy covering his own ass to fend off the masses. Leaking classified information is after all a federal offense, as is lying to federal investigators.

I love Fitz, he makes me believe that a small bit of justice still exists in this country
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:51 AM
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44. I didn't realize pigs were kept on leashes
:shrug:

But then I probably don't have as much experience around barnyard animals as Matalin does.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:31 AM
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45. oh, I'm scared of TurdBlossom. NOT! Next time he swiftboats a good Dem
we will not hesitate to whack him back where he belongs---in jail!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:37 AM
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47. hehe,I can only imagine what it's like at the Matalin-Carville household!
:rofl:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:39 AM
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48. Shouldn't the RNC be paying him instead of the Taxpayers?
I have called my congressman to see who is paying him to do partisan political campaign work.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:54 AM
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53. We ALL should call our Congresspeoples on this issue
WE (taxpayers) should not be paying one single penny toward Rove's salary and he should not be allowed to collect one dollar of taxpayer's money! If he's working on campaigns/elections, let the RNC take care of him!!! :grr:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:13 PM
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56. I've already called Ben Chandler. I won't even try calling my
two Repuglican senators, McConnell and Bunning.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:39 AM
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49. Fuck Matalin - that skanky old hag
She's no better than that evil Malkin - they even have similar names.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:49 AM
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50. Fuck mary matalin.
May she rot in prison for treason and conspiracy to commit treason, with the rest of the WHIG.
May carville's sex life be reduced to conjugal visits.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:51 AM
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51. He won't get too far in a prison cell
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:51 AM
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52. Oh No! The Big Bad GOP is coming
Red Meat
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:03 PM
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54. Do we think elected Democrats are as tough and agressive as we are?
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 12:03 PM by Dr Fate
I think that is somthing we are missing.

Rove does not fool us, and the average DUers could smack him down- but what have the elected DEMS done to show they know how to punch Rove in his throat?

I'm worried that DEMS will fall for his tricks again.

We often mistake how we or a normal person would respond to bullies for what elected Democrats actaully end up doing.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:44 PM
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57. Whatever happened to the 'slap on the wrist' theme?
They abandoned that one early.

Now he's being transformed into "super-Campaigner-Man", able to smear Dem opponents with a single "traitor" lie.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:08 PM
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59. Mary darlin, I would be more concerned when Fitzgerald becomes "unleashed
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